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      01-24-2016, 06:22 PM   #67
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Sorry for the Sh*tty photos as I took them with my iphone and the lighting was iffy, but you get the general idea.



















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After analyzing sh*tty photos I really think you have 15mm upfront and 12mm in the back...

Can you confirm? (Same as my current configuration...)


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I was previously running 10mm front and 15mm rear Motorsport Hardware spacers. But yesterday evening I swapped them to 12mm front and 18mm rear BMS spacers. The slight increase in size does make a pretty significant difference in visual appearance. And might I add, they look absolute BADASS haha (probably not worth it to make the swap for such a minimal change, but a buddy sold his car and gave these to me so no cost)

These are on my stock 20" staggered 624M wheels.
Front: 20x8, 225/35/20
Back: 20x8.5, 255,30/20

No issues at all. No rubbing whatsoever.
I am also lowered on h&r sport springs.
Curious to see what and how it looks like... But I still think 18 in the back is too aggressive...

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Wow, thanks for such a detailed advice and pictures!
I am definitely considering both spacers and lowering, for sure. However, I was planning to put coil overs instead of springs, because I travel a lot to different countries and need to have a possibility to adjust the height for traveling (for example Czech Republic, they have pretty harsh roads there).
Thanks again for the input!
Given your additional info here, I would further advice from NOT aligning the car, because you will be adjusting the height anyways...

If I could afford the coil overs, I would have done it too, so I think you are doing it correctly.

I can't wait to have 15mm spacers all around.
Will keep you all posted.
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      01-24-2016, 08:30 PM   #68
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Any pics you could post to show this?
There are some pics in my photo gallery under Profile with pictures of the car with 15/10mm back /front.

I'll try to get pics of current setup of 18/12mm when I get a chance!
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      01-24-2016, 10:38 PM   #69
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There are some pics in my photo gallery under Profile with pictures of the car with 15/10mm back /front.

I'll try to get pics of current setup of 18/12mm when I get a chance!
Wow i have forgotten how nice your ride looks already

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There are some pics in my photo gallery under Profile with pictures of the car with 15/10mm back /front.

I'll try to get pics of current setup of 18/12mm when I get a chance!
Yeah, that'd be awesome. Your setup looks pretty bang on with the 15/10's but I'd love to see the flushness of the 18/12's with these wheels.

I have a vested interest as I think we actually have more or less the same car - M Performance Edition w/ Sparkling Graphite Metallic paint?
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Here are a few pictures. Quality is not great as the sun was going down, but good enough to get an idea as to what the 18mm/12mm looks like.

The difference between 15/10 and the current 18/12 is obviously a difference of mm. But when you add those additional mm together, its a significantly wider stance in a small way if you know what I mean haha.
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Yeah, that'd be awesome. Your setup looks pretty bang on with the 15/10's but I'd love to see the flushness of the 18/12's with these wheels.

I have a vested interest as I think we actually have more or less the same car - M Performance Edition w/ Sparkling Graphite Metallic paint?
Yup! Sparkling graphite! Not too many of them around. I've only seen one other one in Vancouver in the past 10 months. And that happened only a week ago lol.
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Wow i have forgotten how nice your ride looks already

Thanks! I quite like it too
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Yeah, that'd be awesome. Your setup looks pretty bang on with the 15/10's but I'd love to see the flushness of the 18/12's with these wheels.

I have a vested interest as I think we actually have more or less the same car - M Performance Edition w/ Sparkling Graphite Metallic paint?
Yup! Sparkling graphite! Not too many of them around. I've only seen one other one in Vancouver in the past 10 months. And that happened only a week ago lol.
Thanks for posting up pics. Looks perfect. BMS should send you commission on my upcoming spacer purchase.
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Thanks for posting up pics. Looks perfect. BMS should send you commission on my upcoming spacer purchase.
BMS probably gets way too many props on this site and wouldn't be able to afford paying out commissions every single referral haha. They definitely do something (or many things for that matter) right!

What size spacers did you end up going with?
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Thanks for posting up pics. Looks perfect. BMS should send you commission on my upcoming spacer purchase.
BMS probably gets way too many props on this site and wouldn't be able to afford paying out commissions every single referral haha. They definitely do something (or many things for that matter) right!

What size spacers did you end up going with?
Still on the fence actually. I'm trying to get my brain around the resulting offsets of the 18mm/12mm setup when considering the stock wheel offsets. IIRC, the 624m's (and all F3x stock wheels for that matter) are et36 front and et47 rear.

Using the 18/12 setup, that leaves you with +24mm front and +29mm rear. That's pretty damn aggressive lol. But judging by your pictures, there's no poke, and you mentioned there was no rubbing. So either there's way more room than we thought, or those wheel offsets as provided by BMW are lower than actual.

Thoughts? I'm still more than likely getting the 18/12's .
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      01-27-2016, 01:58 PM   #77
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Just got my Burger Tuning 12mm front / 18mm rear spacers installed.



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Still on the fence actually. I'm trying to get my brain around the resulting offsets of the 18mm/12mm setup when considering the stock wheel offsets. IIRC, the 624m's (and all F3x stock wheels for that matter) are et36 front and et47 rear.

Using the 18/12 setup, that leaves you with +24mm front and +29mm rear. That's pretty damn aggressive lol. But judging by your pictures, there's no poke, and you mentioned there was no rubbing. So either there's way more room than we thought, or those wheel offsets as provided by BMW are lower than actual.

Thoughts? I'm still more than likely getting the 18/12's .
It appears a lot of people have gone the 18/12 route as yet another just above this post has done it. Those look to be factory 19's so that should give you a pretty good idea how it looks on a 19" wheel with a little higher profile tire.

Something else to consider is what type of tires you will be running. As you can see in my pictures, the stock RFT's have a very shallow sidewall compared to say the MPSS tires. Because the MPSS are much beefier tires, those might protrude out past the fender quite a bit more than my stock RFTs.

If you dont plan on running MPSS, and will likely stick with the stock RFT's, I dont think you can go wrong with the 18/12. And if you are not lowered, then definitely no issues. If you are slammed on coils or H&R super sport springs, then maybe that could cause a greater chance of rub.

Good luck with your decision!
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It appears a lot of people have gone the 18/12 route as yet another just above this post has done it. Those look to be factory 19's so that should give you a pretty good idea how it looks on a 19" wheel with a little higher profile tire.

Something else to consider is what type of tires you will be running. As you can see in my pictures, the stock RFT's have a very shallow sidewall compared to say the MPSS tires. Because the MPSS are much beefier tires, those might protrude out past the fender quite a bit more than my stock RFTs.

If you dont plan on running MPSS, and will likely stick with the stock RFT's, I dont think you can go wrong with the 18/12. And if you are not lowered, then definitely no issues. If you are slammed on coils or H&R super sport springs, then maybe that could cause a greater chance of rub.

Good luck with your decision!
My RWD 340i is running on stock height adaptive suspension.
Wheels are stock 18" 398m with MPSS and 18" BBS SR with WS80 (225/45R18 square) for winter.

Anyone with this setup know if 12mm front/15mm rear would work?
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It appears a lot of people have gone the 18/12 route as yet another just above this post has done it. Those look to be factory 19's so that should give you a pretty good idea how it looks on a 19" wheel with a little higher profile tire.

Something else to consider is what type of tires you will be running. As you can see in my pictures, the stock RFT's have a very shallow sidewall compared to say the MPSS tires. Because the MPSS are much beefier tires, those might protrude out past the fender quite a bit more than my stock RFTs.

If you dont plan on running MPSS, and will likely stick with the stock RFT's, I dont think you can go wrong with the 18/12. And if you are not lowered, then definitely no issues. If you are slammed on coils or H&R super sport springs, then maybe that could cause a greater chance of rub.

Good luck with your decision!
My RWD 340i is running on stock height adaptive suspension.
Wheels are stock 18" 398m with MPSS and 18" BBS SR with WS80 (225/45R18 square) for winter.

Anyone with this setup know if 12mm front/15mm rear would work?
Fine with your OEM wheels, not with your SR's. Those are +32mm all around. Pretty aggressive if you squeeze 12/15 spacers between.
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Fine with your OEM wheels, not with your SR's. Those are +32mm all around. Pretty aggressive if you squeeze 12/15 spacers between.
thanks for the heads up!
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I didnt read the whole thread but does anyone know why spacers for E90 wouldn't fit on an F30? Is it just the thread size?
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After reading up on F30 spacers I have settled on H&R front 12/ rear 15. Quality is outstanding!
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I've been looking and reading here. I just picked up a 2015 335i M-sport with adaptive suspension on OEM 19's (style 704, I believe). This will be our family car, so I'm not looking for a crazy power, really loud-smelly, harsh riding car. I am looking to improve upon the already positive attributes of the F30. I just sold a heavily modded Golf R APR Stage lll, but we had an X5 for our family car, so I didn't mind an aggressive setup for the R.
I just placed an order for a Bootmod3 stage 2 tune, AR design catted downpipe, and VRSF spacers (10mm front along with 12mm rear). I was planning on placing the order with 12mm front and 15mm rear, but Mike from Extreme Power explained that 12 and 15 would be slightly aggressive. He only mentioned this because I explained that this would still be a family car that my wife would be driving at least half the time. I also plan to burn through these RFT tires and go with a non runflat, one size larger. Currently, the tires are OEM 225 front and 255 rears: Bridgestone POTENZA S001 RFT. I plan to go to 235 front and 265 rear non runflat within the next year. Please forgive the stupid question, but do you think I'll be ok with the order I placed. I am not looking for any type of rubbing or fitment issues...
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Hi guys,
I have 2014 320d M package with M suspension. How do I know if it is adaptive? I have the comfort and sport mode button. Does that do anything with the suspension? From the iDrive settings it looks like it does.
Is it true that the M suspension is 10mm lowered than without?
And what is the best/max spacer size for 403M 19” staggered setup rims without rubbing, rolling fenders, adjust liners or whatsoever ? Originally it has 8J front and 8,5J in the back.

These are the option I have according to vin decoder on internet:
S337 M Sports Package
S704 M Sports Suspension
S715 M Aerodynamics Package


Thanks for any advise!
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Hi guys,
I have 2014 320d M package with M suspension. How do I know if it is adaptive? I have the comfort and sport mode button. Does that do anything with the suspension? From the iDrive settings it looks like it does.
Is it true that the M suspension is 10mm lowered than without?
And what is the best/max spacer size for 403M 19” staggered setup rims without rubbing, rolling fenders, adjust liners or whatsoever ? Originally it has 8J front and 8,5J in the back.

These are the option I have according to vin decoder on internet:
S337 M Sports Package
S704 M Sports Suspension
S715 M Aerodynamics Package


Thanks for any advise!
Any help out there?
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Not a direct answer, but I hate waiting, too.



I believe that S704 is NOT adaptive, but the standard M Sport suspension. I think adaptive suspension was an additional package/cost and was option code SA2VF.


I can't speak to the 10mm lower, as I drive a (formerly) sky-high xDrive/MSport vehicle.


For spacers, I have 400M winter wheels, square, and run 12mm spacers up front and 15mm in the rear to make them flush with the fenders. My 400Ms are ET 34, front and rear.



My summer wheels are 19x8.5 ET 35/19x9.5 ET43 with no spacers and they run flush to the fenders with no rubbing or fender mods.



I read that 403Ms are ET 36/47, respectively, if that helps.


I hope it does, at least a little. Good Luck.
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Not a direct answer, but I hate waiting, too.



I believe that S704 is NOT adaptive, but the standard M Sport suspension. I think adaptive suspension was an additional package/cost and was option code SA2VF.


I can't speak to the 10mm lower, as I drive a (formerly) sky-high xDrive/MSport vehicle.


For spacers, I have 400M winter wheels, square, and run 12mm spacers up front and 15mm in the rear to make them flush with the fenders. My 400Ms are ET 34, front and rear.



My summer wheels are 19x8.5 ET 35/19x9.5 ET43 with no spacers and they run flush to the fenders with no rubbing or fender mods.



I read that 403Ms are ET 36/47, respectively, if that helps.


I hope it does, at least a little. Good Luck.
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Thanks for your reply appreciate it!

In the wheels i see IS36 and IS47. Is that the ET value? In that case how far can i go to get the wheels flush with the fenders?
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