12-18-2017, 09:08 PM | #1 | |
Retired BMW Genius
2897
Rep 3,404
Posts |
BMW teams up with Solid Power to develop solid-state batteries for cars
Featured on BIMMERPOST.com Quote:
. |
|
12-19-2017, 02:39 PM | #3 |
Second Lieutenant
156
Rep 260
Posts |
Meanwhile, four teenagers in a circle look at each other, and the curly haired dude says, "...so, there's this car that runs on water..." And all the other kids laugh and pelt him with empty chip bags and crushed soda cans.
|
Appreciate
1
JTO245274.50 |
12-19-2017, 03:20 PM | #5 |
Banned
3161
Rep 9,134
Posts |
Meanwhile the curlyhaired kid buys the car that runs on water and the other three live with their parents until they're 30.
|
12-19-2017, 05:05 PM | #7 |
Captain
391
Rep 960
Posts |
I think the charging is different in different countries. China is mandating a build out of infrastructure, in the US you may still charge at home. But there are improvements to fast charging as well as wireless.
wind, solar and such are all part of the plan. The key is the intermittent nature which needs to be stored so expect that to grow along the model offerings which don’t really show penetration until 2025ish time frame. In most of our lifetimes we will be driving EV’s. |
Appreciate
0
|
12-19-2017, 06:02 PM | #9 | |
Banned
3161
Rep 9,134
Posts |
Quote:
One of my oldest brothers lives off whoever he can latch on to and my nephews both live at home because they prefer their country club life styles and they cannot imagine it any other way. |
|
Appreciate
1
F15GorDe261.00 |
12-19-2017, 06:28 PM | #10 | |
Moderator
7515
Rep 19,368
Posts |
Quote:
A) Regulations only hold them responsible for vehicle emissions; other sources of pollution are someone else’s problem B) An EV is superior to an ICE vehicle in efficiency and simplicity. ICE costs have by and large bottomed out while EV costs have great potential for reduction C) EV demand is set to grow due to other forces such as cultural shift and geo-politics, while the ICE is on a slow path toward obsolescence |
|
Appreciate
1
JTO245274.50 |
12-19-2017, 07:02 PM | #11 |
Banned
3161
Rep 9,134
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-19-2017, 11:06 PM | #12 |
Captain
702
Rep 900
Posts |
Battery electric is the VHS (to laserdisc/betamax) of our generation (hydrogen vs battery electric). We screwed the pooch because we were cheap on infrastructure (no in place hydrogen infrastructure, versus extant power grid)
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-20-2017, 12:04 AM | #13 | |
Banned
3161
Rep 9,134
Posts |
Quote:
Solar + Battery storage + BEV = Win Win Win |
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-20-2017, 06:09 AM | #14 | |
Captain
391
Rep 960
Posts |
Quote:
Do you know how much hydrogen cost to make? You literally have to freeze air. Air separation units are really expensive. So it’s not really about the infrastructure. The infrastructure is relatively cheap. The only thing hydrogen is better for is cold weather because batteries drain faster. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-20-2017, 10:27 AM | #15 | |
First Lieutenant
116
Rep 372
Posts
Drives: F36 435i M Gran Coupe
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Chicago
|
Quote:
Also, even if you charge an electric car with coal, due to the higher MPGe, its still a net positive. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-20-2017, 10:59 AM | #16 |
Captain
1216
Rep 775
Posts |
This is an interesting dialog. I don't know a ton about EV tech but with ICE having a 100+ year head start for refinement, EV will be playing catch up for a while. Looking forward to seeing how it all plays out.
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-20-2017, 01:02 PM | #17 | |
Captain
391
Rep 960
Posts |
Quote:
Google the specs on the Tesla roadster and compare to the most expensive super cars with Turbo’s carbon fiber |
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-20-2017, 08:41 PM | #18 |
Colonel
851
Rep 2,793
Posts |
I'm curious to when EV or other tech can match ICE range/pricing and cold weather durability.
Till then I know where my $ will go......sadly I'm not exactly eco-friendly.....but neither are many corporations. |
Appreciate
0
|
12-20-2017, 09:11 PM | #19 | ||
Captain
1216
Rep 775
Posts |
Quote:
The second rule of.... ask me how I know.... |
||
Appreciate
0
|
12-20-2017, 11:40 PM | #20 | ||
Captain
702
Rep 900
Posts |
Quote:
The issue was infrastructure, not making the stuff. |
||
Appreciate
0
|
12-21-2017, 08:48 AM | #21 |
Captain
391
Rep 960
Posts |
Yes your Infrastructure does cost money, but fast money article around electrolysis is not a solution. Back in day there was this little co called hydrogenics that tried to build out infrastructure... it was relatively low capex.
If you are interested in hydrogen. The industrial gas co’s Have a lot of useful info on their website...there’s only a few large ones so you can read about that.... But I get the point you are trying to make |
Appreciate
0
|
12-21-2017, 10:57 AM | #22 | |
Private First Class
118
Rep 161
Posts |
Quote:
EV is so much better during winter. No more starting issues or expecting something to break when the engine finally starts in really cold weather. It's during winter you see the real benefits of EV. Just being able to heat the car from your mobile is a great advantage... I should know, having only EVs for 3 winters now and it gets down to -36 Celsius here during winter (yes, that's MINUS 33 Farenheit) |
|
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|