F30POST
F30POST
2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST > 2012-2019 BMW 3 and 4-Series Forums > General F30 Sedan / F32 Coupe / F36 Gran Coupe Forum > 318i vs 320d vs 418i
GetBMWParts
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      12-10-2017, 02:23 AM   #1
hyde
Major
hyde's Avatar
United_States
224
Rep
1,292
Posts

Drives: 2015 X5
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: New York City

iTrader: (0)

318i vs 320d vs 418i

My brother in law lives in Turkey and he is interested in getting a new BMW.
Living in USA, I am not familiar with difference in these engines, but I believe 3/418 models are 1.5L engine and 3/420 are 2.0L engines.

418 coupe has 0-60mph at 9.2sec, 126hp which seems extremely slow to me, but it seems like norm out there, so my suggestion to him was to get 320d xdrive instead of 418i (non-xdrive), or if he can afford to get 420d xdrive (7.2sec/190hp)

Pricewise there is about $25,000 difference between 418i and 420d, which is huge.

If anyone has any suggestions on these, I'd love to hear from you.

Also, are 3 and 4 series due for fresh soon, he is being offered $13,000 off on 2017 320d.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      12-10-2017, 12:46 PM   #2
floydarogers
Curmudgeon and Pedant
floydarogers's Avatar
United_States
269
Rep
2,834
Posts

Drives: 2010 335d, 2014 328d
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Bellevue, WA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by hyde View Post
My brother in law lives in Turkey and he is interested in getting a new BMW.
...
Pricewise there is about $25,000 difference between 418i and 420d, which is huge.
...
Also, are 3 and 4 series due for fresh soon, he is being offered $13,000 off on 2017 320d.
Is the 420d is cheaper? Or the other way around?

I'd always get the 20d; much more torque and mileage than any gas engine in that size. And a lot more available engine mods if that's what he wants.
Appreciate 0
      12-10-2017, 06:57 PM   #3
hyde
Major
hyde's Avatar
United_States
224
Rep
1,292
Posts

Drives: 2015 X5
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: New York City

iTrader: (0)

Thanks, turns out he pulled the trigger today after finding out 420d is starting at equivalent of USD $112k and 320d he is getting will be shy of $68k. At this point it was no brainer for him to go with 320d with a few options.

418d was much cheaper, even less than 320d, but xdrive is not offered in 418d, so he went with 320d.

In reference to engine mods, can you give me some examples?
The only issue is his is 2017, he was told he can't get '18 unless he waits about 3-4 months. For the price, I don't think it's too bad where he lives (in Turkey) and without a doubt diesel will be much better than gasser, combined with xdrive I think he is in for a very nice surprise, going from 318i (non xdrive) gasser.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      12-10-2017, 07:53 PM   #4
floydarogers
Curmudgeon and Pedant
floydarogers's Avatar
United_States
269
Rep
2,834
Posts

Drives: 2010 335d, 2014 328d
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Bellevue, WA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by hyde View Post
...
In reference to engine mods, can you give me some examples?
Racechip is one, Ecotune in UK, also look at UK forums.
Appreciate 0
      12-10-2017, 09:54 PM   #5
hyde
Major
hyde's Avatar
United_States
224
Rep
1,292
Posts

Drives: 2015 X5
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: New York City

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by floydarogers View Post
Racechip is one, Ecotune in UK, also look at UK forums.
Thanks.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2017, 03:47 AM   #6
eluded
2JZ-GTE
eluded's Avatar
Bulgaria
620
Rep
1,936
Posts

Drives: 340 6MT
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Sofia

iTrader: (0)

I would get the cheapest car with the highest gas mileage.
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2017, 08:06 AM   #7
mt1984
New Member
12
Rep
17
Posts

Drives: 2018 F31 320d xDrive M Sport
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Europe

iTrader: (0)

Hello!

He will definitely not regret choosing a 320d. I've tested both 318d and 320i before pulling the trigger on a 320d xDrive. Based on my personal experience the 2.0 litre diesel engine with 190hp is the first engine in the whole BMW lineup that makes F30 a very capable driving machine with more than enough power. Judging by the way this car develops the power, it provides a feeling that is closer to 328i than it is to 320i, although the numbers on the paper suggest otherwise.

Again, excellent choice and congratulations!

Regards,
Appreciate 0
      12-12-2017, 01:48 AM   #8
hyde
Major
hyde's Avatar
United_States
224
Rep
1,292
Posts

Drives: 2015 X5
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: New York City

iTrader: (0)

Thank you.
Are the 2017 320d's different than the 320d's in the US (sold as 328d despite having 2.0L engine) in terms of body and interior?

He went with 320d Pure+Prestige+Plus packages.
I believe this equals to Convenience + Premium packages (or tiers) in the US.

The only thing is I think they are putting older iDrive in 2017's out there, is that correct? The smaller screen instead of larger screen?
__________________
Appreciate 0
      12-12-2017, 07:45 PM   #9
mt1984
New Member
12
Rep
17
Posts

Drives: 2018 F31 320d xDrive M Sport
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Europe

iTrader: (0)

Hello!

I don't think there are any differences between 2017 320d and 328d in terms of body and interior. There is a difference however in terms of engine. While 328d has N47 engine (184 hp, 380 Nm), the European 2017 320d has a new B47 engine with 190 hp and 400 Nm of torque. The new B47 unit is quieter, more refined and offers a more linear power surge. They are both great engines though.

The iDrive screen size depends on which navigation system you get. If you get a Navigation System Business or if you don't get a nav system at all, you end up with a small screen. If you decide for Navigation System Professional, you end up with a large screen.

Regards,
Appreciate 0
      12-12-2017, 10:18 PM   #10
hyde
Major
hyde's Avatar
United_States
224
Rep
1,292
Posts

Drives: 2015 X5
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: New York City

iTrader: (0)

Thanks, I meant if there were any differences on interior between 2017 and 2018, it looks like '18 gets LED tails and headlamps while 2017 has xenons.

I see why some 17s had large/wide iDrive screen and others had small squarish display. Must be different packages, whereas in USA we get same large screen no matter what package.
__________________
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:50 AM.




f30post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST