Opinion on next car

Joe_E · 02-17-2018, 09:50 PM

Okay guys, so after having my 328i for nearly 4 years and 53k miles it's time for a new project. My car was full bolt ons for most of it's life and now i'm looking for some bigger power. So now it is finally time to move on (please say why you voted for what you did), but i'm stuck on my next car. It is between a low miles EVO X less than 20k miles, or a 14/15 Camaro ZL1. Yes I know they are completely different cars. My needs are for it to be a daily driver, manual, fun, and mostly reliable. So the goals for the two are:

ZL1 - Tune/Intake/Pulley/Headers/e85 - which brings in around 650ish WHP

Evo X - FBO + e85 and then build the motor + big turbo and shoot for 550-650whp.

Will track/autocross every now and then, but mostly a lot of canyon cruising and roadracing

JustDave · 02-17-2018, 10:35 PM

Tough call, which fits your lifestyle better? No thought of a 335 and tune it up?

Joe_E · 02-17-2018, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDave

Tough call, which fits your lifestyle better? No thought of a 335 and tune it up?

I'm young so either fits it's perfectly. Will never have people in the back. I was thinking 335 but it's the same car, if I'm getting something different might as well change it up a little. Was thinking m235 but seems like a hassle to get to that 500whp mark

StockLOL · 02-17-2018, 11:48 PM

I’d go with the EVO because you will be spinning tires left and right with 650whp on 2wd. A 550whp EVO would be nuts!

eluded · 02-18-2018, 02:08 AM

Chevy for the win

stormlv · 02-18-2018, 06:33 AM

I'd go for the Evo X...

That said, beware though that the interior is a bit spartan when compared to the BMW, so for a daily that might be something to think about.

Also, IIRC from my last test drives with the X, there's quite a bit turbo lag, even stock.
Bolting a bigger turbo will only make the matters worse.

How come a second hand M3/M4 didn't go on the list though?

lens · 02-18-2018, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe_E

I'm young so either fits it's perfectly. Will never have people in the back. I was thinking 335 but it's the same car, if I'm getting something different might as well change it up a little. Was thinking m235 but seems like a hassle to get to that 500whp mark

The money you spend building the EVO X would be more expensive than you get 500+whp on the M235i. It's fairly simple to get 500+whp nowadays with all the flash tunes and turbos out (bigboost, speedtech, PS2)

435MSport6Speed · 02-18-2018, 07:07 AM

ZL1.

I pondered getting one in 14. They are small inside and you can't see out of them. Great power train though.

jnecr · 02-18-2018, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe_E

Was thinking m235 but seems like a hassle to get to that 500whp mark

Since when is getting a 3L inline 6 to 500HP more difficult than a 2L inline 4? Most of the Evos with really high HP are just dyno queens. They aren't driveable on the street at all. Having only 120lb-ft of torque until you hit 5500RPM is not fun situation as a daily driver...

bmw5858 · 02-18-2018, 07:19 AM

I would go with the ZL1. Just sold my Cadillac ATS-V for my 340i 2018. Not that i didn't like the car but we have huge winter here in quebec, canada and needed a bigger one. From the ZL1, i would greatly consider the ats-v. great bang for the buck!! manual, 600hp easily with only a tune which is 800$. Did it to my car and man, no one can't pass by! Also, the look is amazing! you don't seem them on the road!

But if i had a choice, zl1! Just for the big V8 power and sound!

Joe_E · 02-18-2018, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by stormlv

I'd go for the Evo X...

That said, beware though that the interior is a bit spartan when compared to the BMW, so for a daily that might be something to think about.

Also, IIRC from my last test drives with the X, there's quite a bit turbo lag, even stock.
Bolting a bigger turbo will only make the matters worse.

How come a second hand M3/M4 didn't go on the list though?

M3/m4 is too expensive

Joe_E · 02-18-2018, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by chaungo

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Originally Posted by Joe_E

I'm young so either fits it's perfectly. Will never have people in the back. I was thinking 335 but it's the same car, if I'm getting something different might as well change it up a little. Was thinking m235 but seems like a hassle to get to that 500whp mark

The money you spend building the EVO X would be more expensive than you get 500+whp on the M235i. It's fairly simple to get 500+whp nowadays with all the flash tunes and turbos out (bigboost, speedtech, PS2)

The evo catches my eye more because there is always more that can be done. You can always get a new body kit, even go wide body. Go 500/600/ up to 900who if you really wanted to

lens · 02-18-2018, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe_E

The evo catches my eye more because there is always more that can be done. You can always get a new body kit, even go wide body. Go 500/600/ up to 900who if you really wanted to

You can go evo x, but im pretty sure you'll miss the i6 after a couple months and want a m235ir .

The turbo lag on the evo is just terrible.

Joe_E · 02-18-2018, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chaungo

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Originally Posted by Joe_E

The evo catches my eye more because there is always more that can be done. You can always get a new body kit, even go wide body. Go 500/600/ up to 900who if you really wanted to

You can go evo x, but im pretty sure you'll miss the i6 after a couple months and want a m235ir .

The turbo lag on the evo is just terrible.

I'm coming from an i4, so I'd anything the evo will be a bump up power wise. Coming from a 328i

wrickem · 02-18-2018, 05:15 PM

Evo if you're 16, ZL1 if you're in your 50's.

Joe_E · 02-18-2018, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by wrickem

Evo if you're 16, ZL1 if you're in your 50's.

20 is closer to 16, so far the evo is grabbing my attention way more than the zl1. Think it will give me tons of fun for a long period

FastF30 · 02-18-2018, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe_E

20 is closer to 16, so far the evo is grabbing my attention way more than the zl1. Think it will give me tons of fun for a long period

Status factor
Evo = 0
BMW = 100

I bought the BMW for affordable power and status .... very happy with my decision...

So unless you keep the Bimmer... me personally wouldn't do it...

Joe_E · 02-18-2018, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FastF30

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Originally Posted by Joe_E

20 is closer to 16, so far the evo is grabbing my attention way more than the zl1. Think it will give me tons of fun for a long period

Status factor
Evo = 0
BMW = 100

I bought the BMW for affordable power and status .... very happy with my decision...

So unless you keep the Bimmer... me personally wouldn't do it...

Don't care much about status. And status has to do with those around you. Status with an evo is high when take to meets/shows. Don't see many bimmers there that look better. Plus If I get an evo, going tomei/testpipe with a catless o2 dump dp. Because why not piss people off and shoot flames at the same time?

FastF30 · 02-18-2018, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe_E

Don't care much about status. And status has to do with those around you. Status with an evo is high when take to meets/shows. Don't see many bimmers there that look better. Plus If I get an evo, going tomei/testpipe with a catless o2 dump dp. Because why not piss people off and shoot flames at the same time?

Okay... just try to explain that to the hot girl your trying to impress...

Joe_E · 02-18-2018, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FastF30

Okay... just try to explain that to the hot girl your trying to impress...

Don't need a car to impress a girl, wrong way of thinking if that's the reason you got the bmw

FastF30 · 02-18-2018, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe_E

Don't need a car to impress a girl, wrong way of thinking if that's the reason you got the bmw

Nope... Happily married with kids... 4 doors...

... hey as they say.. your money...

but for a track car and still an everyday driver.... M235i.... just my opinion... good luck in your decision...

FastF30 · 02-18-2018, 09:27 PM

P.s. ... just so happened I watched an old Top Gear episode and they compared the EVO (360hp version) to the Subaru .... they said the Evo was an Incredible track car (360Hp version) ... but no way as an everyday car... look it up on Kodi... it's a great episode....

View Poll Results: 14/15 ZL1 or EVO X
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EVO X	6	18.18%
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02-17-2018, 09:50 PM	#1
Joe_E Captain 264 Rep 953 Posts Drives: FBO 328i Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (0)	Okay guys, so after having my 328i for nearly 4 years and 53k miles it's time for a new project. My car was full bolt ons for most of it's life and now i'm looking for some bigger power. So now it is finally time to move on (please say why you voted for what you did), but i'm stuck on my next car. It is between a low miles EVO X less than 20k miles, or a 14/15 Camaro ZL1. Yes I know they are completely different cars. My needs are for it to be a daily driver, manual, fun, and mostly reliable. So the goals for the two are: ZL1 - Tune/Intake/Pulley/Headers/e85 - which brings in around 650ish WHP Evo X - FBO + e85 and then build the motor + big turbo and shoot for 550-650whp. Will track/autocross every now and then, but mostly a lot of canyon cruising and roadracing __________________ 2014 328i - FBO/KW v2/VMR v710's IG@F30_Joe
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02-17-2018, 10:35 PM	#2
JustDave New Member 3 Rep 11 Posts Drives: F30 340, 986 Boxster S Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: United States, Maryland iTrader: (0)	Tough call, which fits your lifestyle better? No thought of a 335 and tune it up?
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02-17-2018, 11:48 PM	#4
StockLOL Private First Class 51 Rep 155 Posts Drives: 2018 340i MPPSK Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Newport Beach, CA iTrader: (0)	I’d go with the EVO because you will be spinning tires left and right with 650whp on 2wd. A 550whp EVO would be nuts!
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02-18-2018, 02:08 AM	#5
eluded 2JZ-GTE 3005 Rep 3,986 Posts Drives: 340 6MT, 50e, others Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Sofia iTrader: (0)	Chevy for the win __________________ A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life.
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02-18-2018, 06:33 AM	#6
stormlv Human 931 Rep 1,200 Posts Drives: Yes Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Geneva iTrader: (1)	I'd go for the Evo X... That said, beware though that the interior is a bit spartan when compared to the BMW, so for a daily that might be something to think about. Also, IIRC from my last test drives with the X, there's quite a bit turbo lag, even stock. Bolting a bigger turbo will only make the matters worse. How come a second hand M3/M4 didn't go on the list though? __________________ 2023 BMW M4 CP xDr \| 510HP / 650Nm \| Isle of Man Green \| Photo album Sold 2018 BMW M4 DCT / ZCP\| 450HP / 550Nm \| Sakhir Orange \| Photo album \| Tribute Sold 2014 BMW 435xd \| 360HP / 710Nm \| Estoril Blue \| Photo album 2010 BMW Z4 sDrive35i DKG \| 306 HP / 400Nm \| Space Gray \| Photo album
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02-18-2018, 07:07 AM	#8
435MSport6Speed Captain 432 Rep 814 Posts Drives: 435i M Sport 6 Speed Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Mass iTrader: (0)	ZL1. I pondered getting one in 14. They are small inside and you can't see out of them. Great power train though.
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02-18-2018, 07:19 AM	#10
bmw5858 Lieutenant 193 Rep 494 Posts Drives: bmw 340i 2018 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Montreal iTrader: (0)	I would go with the ZL1. Just sold my Cadillac ATS-V for my 340i 2018. Not that i didn't like the car but we have huge winter here in quebec, canada and needed a bigger one. From the ZL1, i would greatly consider the ats-v. great bang for the buck!! manual, 600hp easily with only a tune which is 800$. Did it to my car and man, no one can't pass by! Also, the look is amazing! you don't seem them on the road! But if i had a choice, zl1! Just for the big V8 power and sound! __________________ Bmw 435M 2014 Convertible SOLD! Bmw 340i X drive 2018 New orange sunset, Manual transmission, M performance I & II, M performance front lip, side extension rear diffuser, tinted windows. : SOLD Back in old N55 love! Bmw 335 EBII M performance edition : ER Downpipes, VRSF Chargepipe, VRSF HD 6.5 Intercooler, BM3 Stage 2 93 octane, MPPSK, H&R Spring
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02-18-2018, 05:15 PM	#15
wrickem Big Beaver Smile 2101 Rep 3,791 Posts Drives: What he wants to Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: lambertville nj iTrader: (0)	Evo if you're 16, ZL1 if you're in your 50's. __________________ ______________________________________________ Current- '21 430 , '19 911, 07 M6 ,'17 Jeep Wrangler, "23 Bronco OBXluxsquatch
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02-18-2018, 09:27 PM	#22
FastF30 Lieutenant Colonel 521 Rep 1,288 Posts Drives: 2015 335i xdrive Msport Mbrake Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Middle of the Road iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 BMW 335i Xdrive [0.00]	P.s. ... just so happened I watched an old Top Gear episode and they compared the EVO (360hp version) to the Subaru .... they said the Evo was an Incredible track car (360Hp version) ... but no way as an everyday car... look it up on Kodi... it's a great episode....
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