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      01-15-2012, 08:35 AM   #1
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Configurator loaded 328i VS loaded 335i

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328i base MSRP - $34,900
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328i loaded MSRP - $52,400
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328i loaded MSRP - $52,400
335i equipped MSRP - $49,800 (Cold weather, Premium, Sport)

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Does it make sense to buy a loaded 328i anymore? Just thinking out loud here ...
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      01-15-2012, 08:50 AM   #2
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You're right that it doesn't make sense but the entire premise of your post is flawed. How many fully loaded 328i's is BMW going to sell? If a buyer can afford a $50K 3 series, I'd guess they would immediately get a 335i.
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      01-15-2012, 09:07 AM   #3
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You're right that it doesn't make sense but the entire premise of your post is flawed. How many fully loaded 328i's is BMW going to sell? If a buyer can afford a $50K 3 series, I'd guess they would immediately get a 335i.
I agree completely. If I wanted to spend $50k, I'd get a 335i. As it was, the MSRP of the 328i I ordered was $43.9k (Modern Line, Premium Package, Premium Sound Package, Xenon).
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I did the same a few days ago.

328i Sport + heated seats + sunroof
335i sport + heated seats (sunroof is std)

Only 5500$ difference and you have the Xenon (900$ on the 328i), which apparently can't be had without the premium pack (3600$) on the 328i.

The 335i is a no brainer, specially when you factor in the resale value and don't have to endure that silly 4-cyl.

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not sure, theres not a huge difference in performance now and the increased MPG and lower insurance costs may be enough to justify.
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      01-15-2012, 10:15 AM   #6
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I agree w/poster above. I'm headed more towards the loaded 328 route. The power difference is not much and I want increased MPG. 36 vs 30. For me...it makes sense to get the 328.
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not sure, theres not a huge difference in performance now and the increased MPG and lower insurance costs may be enough to justify.
Real world 5-60 is likely to be at least 25% different (5.5s vs 7s) so don't take that 0-60mph too seriously. But for gas, your point is made. With the ZF 8-sp., the 535i get 21/31 (will 335i be a tad better at 22/33?) and the 328i probably 23-24 / 36. 10% difference I'd guestimate..
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      01-15-2012, 10:39 AM   #8
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I agree w/poster above. I'm headed more towards the loaded 328 route. The power difference is not much and I want increased MPG. 36 vs 30. For me...it makes sense to get the 328.
the increased efficiency will be nice
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[QUOTE=Saintor;11153652]Real world 5-60 is likely to be at least 25% different (5.5s vs 7s) so don't take that 0-60mph too seriously. QUOTE] maybe so, but so far theres been nothing but compliments for the 4 cyl turbo. i bought a previous gen 335 because the turbos provided much more torque than the NA 6 cyl, however, I dont think theres going to be as much of a difference now which is why im going with the 328. time will tell i guess.
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Real world 5-60 is likely to be at least 25% different (5.5s vs 7s) so don't take that 0-60mph too seriously. QUOTE] maybe so, but so far theres been nothing but compliments for the 4 cyl turbo. i bought a previous gen 335 because the turbos provided much more torque than the NA 6 cyl, however, I dont think theres going to be as much of a difference now which is why im going with the 328. time will tell i guess.
There isnt. I owned 2 N54, and drove the N20...pretty damn close, really is no need for the extra power unless you absolutley need it. N20 will be enough for 90% of people, enthusiasts included, the car will be light and agile with N20 and sportline.
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      01-15-2012, 11:31 AM   #11
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Sure there is. 5-60mph is what you feel everyday and the difference remains significant. Actually the N20 I drove is not that different from a N52 230HP. No where a N55.
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Sure there is. 5-60mph is what you feel everyday and the difference remains significant. Actually the N20 I drove is not that different from a N52 230HP. No where a N55.
Thats your opinion. Myself, having owned 2 N54s and driving an N20, not much difference there with torque.

Which N20 did you drive?, please dont say the 528
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im not saying the 335 is not worth it or that the 328 is equal, just seems the difference now is less than before. i havent driven the N20 328i so for now its just an opinion based on the reviews i've seen. if i get 90% of the performance with cheaper operating cost then i'll be happy with my purchase. if not, next time its back to a 335
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BTW, I did a check of NADA values on a 2008 model 328 and 335 sedan with sport package and navigation. The difference is $4K or about the same or slightly less than the initial cost between the two. At least in the USA, it seems the resale is about the same.
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Thats your opinion. Myself, having owned 2 N54s and driving an N20, not much difference there with torque.

Which N20 did you drive?, please dont say the 528
I drove a X1 N20 and a X3 N52 within minutes. No way that the X1 was quicker than the X3.

BTW, the 2012 328i N20 is heavier than a 2011 328i N52 by at least 40lbs.
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I drove a X1 N20 and a X3 N52 within minutes. No way that the X1 was quicker than the X3.

BTW, the 2012 328i N20 is heavier than a 2011 328i N52 by at least 40lbs.
Stop making shit up. Its 80 pounds lighter. You are the biggest N20 troll i have ever seen lmfao

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Stop making shit up. Its 80 pounds lighter. You are the biggest N20 troll i have ever seen lmfao

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Justin & 335i GA:

I was in a limbo with 328i. It is not about how it performs and its worth it or not (although, it is important but stick with me here).

There are several options in 335i which are standard:

- Alarm System is standard [$400]
- Sport Package is cheaper by [$800]
- Premium package is cheaper by [$1700]
- Xenons are standard [$900].

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- If you don't get ZPP on 328i, you'll have to spend $3600 for ZPP + $900 for Xenons just to have them.
- If you don't get ZSP, then you'll be stuck with 17" wheels on 328i. 18" wheels are standard on 335i regardless of the package.
- I have lumped all the standard ZPP options in 335i by saying that ZPP is $1700 more on 328i than 335i. If you decide to NOT get ZPP on either 328i or 335i, then you get these for free: Moonroof [$1050], Auto-dimming Rearview Mirrors [$ N/A], Power Front Seats w/ Memory [$995].


I am not even talking about performance here... We're just playing with numbers. If you want a low-end base BMW, go for 328i. If you want a fully decked out 328i - You're making a poor choice. You'll spend less on a 335i.

If you care about fuel consumption, 328i. I don't give a damn about fuel consumption, personally.

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Justin & 335i GA:

I was in a limbo with 328i. It is not about how it performs and its worth it or not (although, it is important but stick with me here).

There are several options in 335i which are standard:

- Alarm System is standard [$400]
- Sport Package is cheaper by [$800]
- Premium package is cheaper by [$1700]
- Xenons are standard [$900].

Notes:
- If you don't get ZPP on 328i, you'll have to spend $3600 for ZPP + $900 for Xenons just to have them.
- If you don't get ZSP, then you'll be stuck with 17" wheels on 328i. 18" wheels are standard on 335i regardless of the package.
- I have lumped all the standard ZPP options in 335i by saying that ZPP is $1700 more on 328i than 335i. If you decide to NOT get ZPP on either 328i or 335i, then you get these for free: Moonroof [$1050], Auto-dimming Rearview Mirrors [$ N/A], Power Front Seats w/ Memory [$995].


I am not even talking about performance here... We're just playing with numbers. If you want a low-end base BMW, go for 328i. If you want a fully decked out 328i - You're making a poor choice. You'll spend less on a 335i.

If you care about fuel consumption, 328i. I don't give a damn about fuel consumption, personally.
i dont need all the gadgets and gizmos. i need bmw's beautiful sports suspensio, sport seats. and a nice engine. the 335 with leather and sport and ZPS is close to 50K. I want to be close to 40K and i am.

Xenons are nice, but im not to concerned about looks and what people think im driving. I dont need power seats and never use the moonroof i have. I i am right at 40K.

335 is a great car, if it still had the N54, then maybe i would consider it more. But this 328 is looking like an amazing car, great efficiency, more than adequate performance, and i like the styling so thats a plus.

Anyone spending 50K on a 328 is a moron. same schmuck that would spend 70K on a 528...
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i dont need all the gadgets and gizmos. i need bmw's beautiful sports suspensio, sport seats. and a nice engine. the 335 with leather and sport and ZPS is close to 50K. I want to be close to 40K and i am.

Xenons are nice, but im not to concerned about looks and what people think im driving. I dont need power seats and never use the moonroof i have. I i am right at 40K.

335 is a great car, if it still had the N54, then maybe i would consider it more. But this 328 is looking like an amazing car, great efficiency, more than adequate performance, and i like the styling so thats a plus.

Anyone spending 50K on a 328 is a moron. same schmuck that would spend 70K on a 528...
Exactly, your situation makes sense. My total with tax/title/bullshit-fees/dealer-profit is at $50,750. Budget was $45k but had to cave in for a ZTP for larger screen...i'll never use that navigation, EVER. Got my iPhone which outdoes any navigation. Although, I have never used BMW navi, but I can assume its a pain in the arse to type in the information. Anyways, got disposable income coming up after tax refunds
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its been a hard decision not to go 335i, i still am not 100% sure, but my gut feeling is that the N20 will be the hot choice for the F30, at least initially.
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25% difference when there's only a 15% torque difference and 20% hp difference and the 335i is a heavier car. How does that work? So the 335i magically makes it's factory claims but the 328i is going to be more than a second slower than it's claim? I guess somehow, and for some inexplicable reason, BMW incorporated incredible amounts of turbo lag into the N20 even though it uses the same design principles(actually more refined) as the N55. Amazing.

A 325i with 225hp/190lb/ft does 0-60 in under 7 seconds. My car which is only 200/210 and weighs the same as a 328i does 0-60 in the 6s and it has noticeable turbo lag. You're full of shit.

Stop trolling and being but hurt that they put a 4 banger in a car you like.

Tssst. tssst. tssst. Keep it civil son. I hope you learnt something here when you got busted with your arrogance. You are doing it again.

I was not talking about 0-60 (totally useless) but about 5-60.

Here is something for you to learn again anyway; Audi declares for the A3 manual a 0-60 or 7.1s and BMW declares for a 328i 6.3s. Automatic are about the same, but the A3 has a dual-clutch automatic transmission and I wouldn't be surprised that gear ratios are taller on the 328i.
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