[Pure]

It's great. That Carbon Black can be confused easily with Imperial Blue.!

[ron_jeremy]

The 4GC is great looking, need to take one for a ride soon.
a 428ix should be nice.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

The limiting factor in the rear seat is headroom. I'm 6' and I simply do not fit in the back seat. I think 5’ 10" would be the limit, maybe even less.

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[x6Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by dt23

after seeing how dark the carbon black is, not at all like the show car pictures, thinking maybe going back to EB instead ... dang it, i need to make up my mind ....

We have a Carbon Black X6 and a Carbon Black 650i.

We get compliments everywhere on the color!

Under certain lighting (evening) it looks a cool, dark purplish/blue.

You would not be disappointed.

Night and day from black (we used to have another X6 in Sapphire Black - difference was obvious when they were parked next to each other).

[x6Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by 3s-a-charm

4GC or 6GC - that is the question... The 6-series interior is just so much nicer and the 4-series is a good size... Argh!

I had an M4 on order, but cancelled days before delivery a couple weeks ago to go 650i GC. The 4GC and 6GC are both awesome! 6GC will feel more upscale - valets love parking it out front.

[SteveSpy]

Originally Posted by ron_jeremy

The 4GC is great looking, need to take one for a ride soon.
a 428ix should be nice.

I think you've taken enough ladies for a ride Ron... Why don't you retire now?

[SteveSpy]

I'm very confused so somebody please help me here. Wasn't the 4-series created to differentiate between 2-doors and 4-doors? Aren't all BMWs supposed to conform to this new rule of even numbers being coupes and odd numbers being sedans? Why then is this a 4 series vehicle with 4 doors? BMW is contradicting themselves...

[3s-a-charm]

Originally Posted by M3 n X5M

6 GC vs. 4 GC?
Size would vary...
But 40k price difference would be a greater consideration.

Also the 6 series is classy and just looks rich.

The 4 series retains an economical look to it in some minor details where the 6 seals the deal. I was comparing a 435i to 640i at the dealer and the 4 series just looks cheaper.

Agreed! Every time I think I'll bite the bullet on a 4GC (was waiting for the x-drive), I see a 6GC and can't help myself. I need counselling.

[3s-a-charm]

Originally Posted by x6Hawkeye

I had an M4 on order, but cancelled days before delivery a couple weeks ago to go 650i GC. The 4GC and 6GC are both awesome! 6GC will feel more upscale - valets love parking it out front.

How do you find the ingress/egress on the 6GC? Do people find it okay getting in/out of the car? It seems pretty low compared to the 7 or X series. Sorry for the

[bonabono]

Originally Posted by sspyrops

I'm very confused so somebody please help me here. Wasn't the 4-series created to differentiate between 2-doors and 4-doors? Aren't all BMWs supposed to conform to this new rule of even numbers being coupes and odd numbers being sedans? Why then is this a 4 series vehicle with 4 doors? BMW is contradicting themselves...

Coupe vs sedan.
A coupe can have 4 doors, and even 5 doors (A7). They just have tiny rear space.
The old 1 series coupes are now 2 series...

[dbtheo]

Originally Posted by Meeni

This is surprisingly roomy. It also look a lot better than the 3GT which is outright ugly. Now it is strange that the "coupe" is roomier than the sedan, I don't quite understand the intent here, but it seems to work in the end.

the 4 GC is definitely not roomier than sedan.. I work in a dealership.. own a 335i... back seat is smaller for sure in the GC, not mention headroom. I'm 6'2 as a point of reference. That said, car looks great! but no go for me in regards to space with family...

[Booster]

here are a couple quickies of one we got in a few days ago...

$65k sticker...

[basiluf]

Originally Posted by chrisny

I would buy that car. So much better in these pics than ANY of the official pics. Doesn't look awkward at all, at least not in these shots

The 19" wheels make a humongous difference. It looks just right with the 19s, and awkward with 18" wheels.

[chrisny]

Originally Posted by dbtheo

the 4 GC is definitely not roomier than sedan.. I work in a dealership.. own a 335i... back seat is smaller for sure in the GC, not mention headroom. I'm 6'2 as a point of reference. That said, car looks great! but no go for me in regards to space with family...

This is a huge point I think a lot of people are missing. It's the same length as the 3, they should've stretched it, but didn't. so the extra space in the hatch has to come from somewhere, not to mention the coupe roofline eating up back seat headroom.

[x6Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by 3s-a-charm

How do you find the ingress/egress on the 6GC? Do people find it okay getting in/out of the car? It seems pretty low compared to the 7 or X series. Sorry for the

It definitely sits very low to the ground. I've not driven a 7 series, so it's hard to make the comparison, but this is more of a pure "sport GT" in feel and I expect at least an inch lower seating/floorboard.

When you step in, you feel like you are stepping even further down as the interior floorboard and seat are low relative to the door sill compared to other cars.

I'm 6'4" and it's a long way down and up!

It's definitely easier for me to get in, than out, as it's not intuitive what to hold on to when lifting yourself out (I find myself using my right arm on the steering wheel to help lift/push me up). Sometimes I expect I look a little silly getting out, but then again it's a 6GC so you can't feel too silly.

I recommend sitting in one if it's a concern. It would be extremely difficult to ingress/egress if you have any disabilities.

(That's the one benefit of the X6, as you step down - not up.)

To keep it a bit on topic, I would expect a very similar feel in a 4GC. Biggest difference is likely rear seat leg room as well as luxury appointments in cabin (although 4's are very nice!).

I can say it is a great/sporty feel being so low to the ground when driving.

BTW, I'm no longer a spring chicken (just turned 40) if an age reference is helpful regarding the ingress/egress.

[beto_L.A.]

Have you guys checked this member's 4GC??
Looks very nice...
428 GC in Vegas http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=999154

[mbzkbb]

Very nice

[mike@x-ph.com]

Nice!!

[CapHill1er]

Barring any shocks after I see it in person and go for a test drive, I'm all in on the 435i GC in Carbon Black! With two dogs, it would be nice to not have them jump on the front seat to get into the back (like they do now in my 135i). Even if the 2-door gets Carbon Black (which it should, dammit!), I'd probably still go with the GC.

--John

[SOM3]

I'm not sure about this car, maybe it's just those pics.

Kind of reminds me of a clown shoe. I need to see this thing in person.

[Sean@PSI]

Sharp, but BMW is still confused on what to call it....

[Manbnda]

Originally Posted by x6Hawkeye

It definitely sits very low to the ground. I've not driven a 7 series, so it's hard to make the comparison, but this is more of a pure "sport GT" in feel and I expect at least an inch lower seating/floorboard.

When you step in, you feel like you are stepping even further down as the interior floorboard and seat are low relative to the door sill compared to other cars.

I'm 6'4" and it's a long way down and up!

It's definitely easier for me to get in, than out, as it's not intuitive what to hold on to when lifting yourself out (I find myself using my right arm on the steering wheel to help lift/push me up). Sometimes I expect I look a little silly getting out, but then again it's a 6GC so you can't feel too silly.

I recommend sitting in one if it's a concern. It would be extremely difficult to ingress/egress if you have any disabilities.

(That's the one benefit of the X6, as you step down - not up.)

To keep it a bit on topic, I would expect a very similar feel in a 4GC. Biggest difference is likely rear seat leg room as well as luxury appointments in cabin (although 4's are very nice!).

I can say it is a great/sporty feel being so low to the ground when driving.

BTW, I'm no longer a spring chicken (just turned 40) if an age reference is helpful regarding the ingress/egress.

That change of decision of a M4 to 650i is interesting, I was wondering too for which one I would go for.
The 650i is very luxurious, and has a big engine. Have you had any regrets so far?
I think it will be interesting to see how valets react to the M4 in comparison to MB E500's, Audi S7's and BMW 650i's.

To me the M4 is still looking too sober, considering what it cost (in my country M cars can only be bought pretty much fully loaded, that's standard here, the only thing optional is pretty much the Ceramic brakes), I think BMW should consider those factors in the exterior design of the cars, as the M3/4s in this case, compete directly against 650i's (both costing more than the equivalent of 108,000 USD // M4 without ceramic brakes) (there are not 640i available) contrary to the US, where you can get a basic M4 amazingly cheap.