Are you brave enough to buy a 1st year F3x?

halfmonkey · 11-17-2011, 03:10 PM

Who actually is planning on buying a 1st year F3x? I ask because after my experience with a 2008 E90, I would never ever again buy a relatively early model year. Remember, the n54 in the 2008 was only 2 years old at the time that I bought it.

We all know that BMW does testing before they release cars but we also (should) know that BMW uses the first few years of owners as their final beta testers and typically after the LCI is when it's the best time to buy.

I guess leasing isn't that big of a deal because you'll turn it back in after 3 years and by then the LCI might be released. Either way, my personal opinion is, I would never ever again buy an early release of a new model. I'll def have to at least wait until the LCI and preferably until the last or year before the last model before a new gen is introduced. This way, I feel better about all of the kinks being worked out.

ny325 · 11-18-2011, 12:54 PM

I will wait 2-3 years after its introduction. My SA told me that there are too many electroncs, and a new Turbo engine. He said that 2011's 335i are still coming in for hpfp. However, not at a rapid pace. He also said BMW's are known for having many first year bugs.

tonmonde · 11-18-2011, 01:05 PM

Needs 5th option. When M-Sport is available

SL%% · 11-18-2011, 09:39 PM

as much as I respect any European cars but basing it from my experience, for me, IMHO, if you're going to keep it for a while, I would suggest to wait a year or two before buying it. Chances are and am not going to be surprised there will be issues but its not just the Europeans, even the Japanese has some issues on their first batch of new model rolling out.

justinnum1 · 11-19-2011, 07:18 AM

Got the N54 year one, gonna order the N20 as soon as i can

Robin_NL · 11-19-2011, 07:28 AM

Going to order when the Dutch prices are out. December, so in a couple of weeks.

ETA feb 2012 according to my dealer. 335i 6MT Sport with some goodies and 19".

Sapphire or darkgrey.that depends on my wife.

Robin_NL · 11-19-2011, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by justinnum1

Got the N54 year one, gonna order the N20 as soon as i can

Got a 330i E90 in may 2005. 100% perfect car.
Got a N54 6MT(oilcooler) 335i E90 in sept 2006 when it first came out: Excellent car, no problems.
Got a F10 535i in may 2010:100% ok but too heavy.

So no worries.

volsfan0911 · 11-19-2011, 08:19 AM

I would buy one first year without blinking. I have one of the first Mk6 GTIs to hit the US (2010) and it had a couple of minor teething pains (water pump, door seals). Everything fixed under warranty, life's good. Personally, I think the 'don't buy first year of a new model' theory doesn't hold up anymore. $0.02

SoonerJohnInDallas · 11-19-2011, 08:19 AM

I got an E90 325i as soon as they were released in 2006. Loved it and had no problems - other than being a little underpowered (which is why they only made it for 1 year and then changed to the 328i with an added 30hp).

Not only am I going to buy a first year F30, I already have my order placed And a confirmed ED date of March 1. Hope to be driving it on the streets of Dallas by May 1 at the latest.

justinnum1 · 11-19-2011, 08:38 AM

If you have a good dealer and they give nice loaners, who cares. If your dealer is a douche and they put you in a corolla, i can understand being hesitant about a new model year.

Bimmerlover76 · 11-19-2011, 09:29 AM

Yep! It shouldn't be too bad. It's always a roll of the dice and the way these are shaping up, I'm assuming they took at much time to consider the moving parts. Can't wait!

ATSR · 11-19-2011, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by justinnum1

If you have a good dealer and they give nice loaners, who cares. If your dealer is a douche and they put you in a corolla, i can understand being hesitant about a new model year.

Even if your dealer has nice loaners, let's say a 328i, and you leased/bought a 335, you don't mind???

If you got an F30 and you are driving an E90, you don't mind that either???

I also learned my lesson with new model BMWs. I had an 08 E92 335xi and got rid of it 1yr later due to all the problems I had with it. BTW, none of the problems I had were related to the N54 or the HPFP.

justinnum1 · 11-19-2011, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by alejotrujillo

Even if your dealer has nice loaners, let's say a 328i, and you leased/bought a 335, you don't mind???

If you got an F30 and you are driving an E90, you don't mind that either???

I also learned my lesson with new model BMWs. I had an 08 E92 335xi and got rid of it 1yr later due to all the problems I had with it. BTW, none of the problems I had were related to the N54 or the HPFP.

No, i have a great dealer and SA. I never let the dealer keep it more than a week, and if they keep it 3 times for the same problem, they will be giving me a new car(like they have on 2 previous occasions). The problems i tend to find on new models are software related, which could take time for an update. Overall, i can cant wait for the new N20 engine. Sounds like its going to be a blast to drive. And having an e90 as a loaner isnt the worst thing in the world.

marsb007 · 11-22-2011, 10:29 AM

If there is a lemon law where you live, why not?

Ron Scott · 11-22-2011, 04:05 PM

Budget an extra 15% of purchase price for buying during the first year or two. Otherwise wait.

Amazing to some extent that the initial-year-or-2 quality issue is still a consideration with BMW, but I believe it is.

View Poll Results: When are you getting an F3x?
I want to be the 1st on the block with an F3x.	14	32.56%
I'll wait until all or most of the kinks are worked out.	11	25.58%
I don't care because I'm leasing.	8	18.60%
I'll wait until the LCI refresh.	10	23.26%
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11-17-2011, 03:10 PM	#1
halfmonkey Second Lieutenant 47 Rep 222 Posts Drives: '08 Montego Blue 335i Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	Are you brave enough to buy a 1st year F3x? Who actually is planning on buying a 1st year F3x? I ask because after my experience with a 2008 E90, I would never ever again buy a relatively early model year. Remember, the n54 in the 2008 was only 2 years old at the time that I bought it. We all know that BMW does testing before they release cars but we also (should) know that BMW uses the first few years of owners as their final beta testers and typically after the LCI is when it's the best time to buy. I guess leasing isn't that big of a deal because you'll turn it back in after 3 years and by then the LCI might be released. Either way, my personal opinion is, I would never ever again buy an early release of a new model. I'll def have to at least wait until the LCI and preferably until the last or year before the last model before a new gen is introduced. This way, I feel better about all of the kinks being worked out. __________________ '08 Montego Blue 335i, auto, grey leather, aluminum trim, 50% ceramic Llumar tint on all windows except windshield - all options except active steering, active cruise control, and HD radio '01 Lexus IS300 - gone but not forgotten
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11-18-2011, 12:54 PM	#2
ny325 Brigadier General 895 Rep 3,141 Posts Drives: Jet Black E90 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Gridlock iTrader: (0)	I will wait 2-3 years after its introduction. My SA told me that there are too many electroncs, and a new Turbo engine. He said that 2011's 335i are still coming in for hpfp. However, not at a rapid pace. He also said BMW's are known for having many first year bugs.
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11-18-2011, 01:05 PM	#3
tonmonde First Lieutenant 7 Rep 312 Posts Drives: F22 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (1)	Needs 5th option. When M-Sport is available __________________ e60, e90, e92, e82, e93, f30 : retired active f22 235
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11-18-2011, 09:39 PM	#4
SL%% Private First Class 53 Rep 136 Posts Drives: 525i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: It's More Fun in the Philippines iTrader: (0)	as much as I respect any European cars but basing it from my experience, for me, IMHO, if you're going to keep it for a while, I would suggest to wait a year or two before buying it. Chances are and am not going to be surprised there will be issues but its not just the Europeans, even the Japanese has some issues on their first batch of new model rolling out.
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11-19-2011, 07:18 AM	#5
justinnum1 Major General 651 Rep 5,803 Posts Drives: 2018 330i Msport 6mt Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Florida iTrader: (0)	Got the N54 year one, gonna order the N20 as soon as i can __________________ F30 330i Alpine white/Coral red Msport 6MT
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11-19-2011, 07:28 AM	#6
Robin_NL S0THPAW 8717 Rep 7,846 Posts Drives: HS M2 Competition Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Netherlands iTrader: (0)	Going to order when the Dutch prices are out. December, so in a couple of weeks. ETA feb 2012 according to my dealer. 335i 6MT Sport with some goodies and 19". Sapphire or darkgrey.that depends on my wife.
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11-19-2011, 08:19 AM	#8
volsfan0911 Private First Class 28 Rep 135 Posts Drives: 2017 VW GTI Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD iTrader: (0)	I would buy one first year without blinking. I have one of the first Mk6 GTIs to hit the US (2010) and it had a couple of minor teething pains (water pump, door seals). Everything fixed under warranty, life's good. Personally, I think the 'don't buy first year of a new model' theory doesn't hold up anymore. $0.02
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SoonerJohnInDallas Private First Class 6 Rep 102 Posts Drives: F30 335i - ED scheduled 3/1/12 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (0)	I got an E90 325i as soon as they were released in 2006. Loved it and had no problems - other than being a little underpowered (which is why they only made it for 1 year and then changed to the 328i with an added 30hp). Not only am I going to buy a first year F30, I already have my order placed And a confirmed ED date of March 1. Hope to be driving it on the streets of Dallas by May 1 at the latest.
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justinnum1 Major General 651 Rep 5,803 Posts Drives: 2018 330i Msport 6mt Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Florida iTrader: (0)	If you have a good dealer and they give nice loaners, who cares. If your dealer is a douche and they put you in a corolla, i can understand being hesitant about a new model year. __________________ F30 330i Alpine white/Coral red Msport 6MT
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11-19-2011, 09:29 AM	#11
Bimmerlover76 Lieutenant 25 Rep 598 Posts Drives: 2009 335i Coupe Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Kalamazoo, MI iTrader: (0)	Yep! It shouldn't be too bad. It's always a roll of the dice and the way these are shaping up, I'm assuming they took at much time to consider the moving parts. Can't wait!
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marsb007 First Lieutenant 328 Rep 343 Posts Drives: 2024 iX M60 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: US iTrader: (0)	If there is a lemon law where you live, why not?
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11-22-2011, 04:05 PM	#15
Ron Scott Captain 85 Rep 632 Posts Drives: 2013 335 M Sport Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island iTrader: (0)	Budget an extra 15% of purchase price for buying during the first year or two. Otherwise wait. Amazing to some extent that the initial-year-or-2 quality issue is still a consideration with BMW, but I believe it is.
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