07-05-2016, 12:04 PM | #1 |
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Oil service interval for ZF-8HP50
I noticed that on a technical data sheet for the transmission in the 335i AH specifies a 60KM / 32mi oil service interval so sent ZF technical an email enquiring about the interval for the 8HP50 and their response:
The service interval is the same Could potentially be some 340is getting close to that already so worth knowing. I don't understand how BMW get away with stating its a 'lifetime fill'.
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Regardless, change it at 60K mile intervals. It's kind of pricey - $700-$800, due mostly to the cost of the oil. |
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Regardless, I wouldn't see 32K miles as 'long term' when, in Europe, the factory engine oil service interval is 30K miles.
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07-05-2016, 05:45 PM | #4 |
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The AH3 requires the oil service much more often because the torque converter is replaced by an electric motor for the hybrid system. The motor generates a lot of heat which can cause the fluid to degrade at a more rapid rate.
I'd change it every 60,000 miles or so for the gas version, and stick to the books for the hybrid.
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07-05-2016, 07:36 PM | #6 |
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The ZF website has info of the factory oil change kits, and it says change interval is between 80000 and 120000 km, or 50k to 75k miles, on 5HP and 6HP. There is no kit for 8HP(yet).
Having said that, the local trusted indy looked up my VIN and said BMW suggested transmission fluid change every 100k miles. |
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"– Excluding the ActiveHybrid models, the automatic and manual transmissions, and the all-wheel drive transfer cases installed in BMW vehicles are factory filled with long-term rated fluids. The transmission long-term rated fluid does not need to be changed except when necessary during repairs to the transmission. The transfer case long-term rated fluid does not need to be changed except when indicated by the vehicle or when necessary" |
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07-06-2016, 02:47 AM | #9 |
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30K miles? really? you have to be exaggerating.. I guess you guys in Europe get a whopping 1 oil change with your free maintenance
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Free maintenance is a BMW of NA thing only.
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07-06-2016, 10:20 AM | #13 |
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The service mileage you were given for the standard box seems way too low. Was there any reason(s) given for why they see the 8-speed requiring such frequent oil services? It is a massive reduction, compared to the 6-speed oil service recommendation.
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07-06-2016, 11:33 AM | #14 |
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I've also contacted ZF for my specific transmission (8HP70) and they recommend servicing it between 80k-120k KM (50k-75k miles) depending on the usage.
Lifetime fill my a$$
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Upon re-reading the thread, I noticed that I didn't provide a rationale for my 60K mile recommendation. Mike Miller (of Roundel) still recommends that. I also believe that 100K is too long - even given the fact that I don't believe in the "if you wait too long you should never change it as it will kill it" rationale.
At the cost - fluid is like $40/quart! - 30K seems unreasonable. Not that my opinion matters too much, but there is my rationale. YMMV. |
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well I'd forgive the no free maintenance if I could get a 340i F31. Consider yourself lucky.
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http://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/b...step-auto/spec Decoding the VIN on my car gives 30K KM or 24 months. |
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Uh we r talkin' transmission oil here right?
Cause no way engine oil is not gettin' changed every 8000 miles or so My nostalgia has me itchin to change every 3000 miles like folks used to .. but I got over that. Oh yea and the tranny is getting oil before 75,000 as well. I buy to own.. oil is cheaper than engine work |
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07-07-2016, 12:32 PM | #22 | |
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European engines get their oil changed at 30K KM European transmissions don't get their oil changed. According to ZF, the 8HP50 needs oil changes at 60K KM |
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