[stefan4]

Originally Posted by CoolDude196

Sorry to thread jack, but how are you finding the 320i? By the sounds of it you sound satisfied with it?

Havent got yet, various things have delayed my handover this week but after a few test drives Im quite smitten. I will definately update on running cost when I do get it but crunching the numbers (and being realistic on mpg) then I think this should be very marginal.

I found the engine to be superb and although the 118i has the same performance the 320i feels much stronger and quite a bit smooter IMO, maybe due to the 118i being a 1.6 turbo - maybe its a little bit more strained but with the 320i featuring the lowest power N20 its not so.

Collection is now scheduled for Monday

[stefan4]

Originally Posted by HighlandPete

Having driven diesel and petrol cars for many years, 10 - 15% reduction in mpg for diesels under 5-degrees, is something I support with data for my driving over the years.

The other factor I've observed, petrol typically has a much closer mpg to diesel than we may think, when we make short trips in winter time.

I posted these comments just this week on another forum.



What that translates to, the diesel savings in winter could be less than 50% of what we may be expecting, (my example, the 20% difference on long runs, eroded to around 10% for short trips). And that is without the fuel cost differences, which currently reduce savings even more.

Most winters we get a cost premium up to 10 pence a litre on diesel fuel. This winter we peaked at 11 pence up here, still around 7 pence.

HighlandPete

The new genration of petrol engines really are starting to bridge the gap but it really does depend on circumstances. At 20000+ miles a year on long motorway trips its a no brainer. But for what I want a car for and over 12000 a year, I cant provide a compelling enough argument to my self to go diesel.

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by stefan4

The new genration of petrol engines really are starting to bridge the gap but it really does depend on circumstances. At 20000+ miles a year on long motorway trips its a no brainer. But for what I want a car for and over 12000 a year, I cant provide a compelling enough argument to my self to go diesel.

When I was driving 20k miles a year I'd not have even considered a petrol, but now at about 8k miles a year (and mostly local driving) the diesel is not worth bothering with if choice is about mpg. Plus I personally want to avoid the DPF regeneration problems in local driving.

Also agree it is the near constant speed driving, over distance, where the diesel really comes into its own. Also in those circumstances winter temperatures don't take the same toll on mpg figures. But the average driver, making average journeys, mostly from cold, there is that fuel consumption penalty to factor in.

HighlandPete

[J2G!]

I brimmed the tank last weekend and on a 70 mile round trip mixed with dual carriageway, motorway and town driving I got 56 mpg. Then with the commute to to work (10 mile return trip) it dropped to 40mpg over the course of the week. I then did the 70 mile trip again this weekend and have got it back up to 43mpg. It seems 43mpg is my lot based on my typical journeys. I should have probably got a petrol but there were no decent spec demo ones available at the time.

[NISFAN]

Originally Posted by stefan4

The new genration of petrol engines really are starting to bridge the gap but it really does depend on circumstances. At 20000+ miles a year on long motorway trips its a no brainer. But for what I want a car for and over 12000 a year, I cant provide a compelling enough argument to my self to go diesel.

Hmmmm, I had a loaner 116i that used more fuel than my 330D on a longish motorway trip. Rubbish when you consider the weight and power difference. I don't think anyone would have bet on that being the case.

[PopeHamish]

I've had my car now for 3 weeks and done just over 3k miles in it.

I can honestly say the MPG is phenomenal - I drive mainly long distances but even when I've maintained the speed over 80 it still outperforms my old Golf Bluemotion.

For example, I did a 150 mile run and the journey computer showed an average of 76 mph and the mpg was 66.4.
On another run the traffic was a little heavier and I averaged just under 70 mph but the mpg was 72.3.

Considering how cold it's been since I've had the car I'm very enthused as to what I'll get in the summer months.

[ZigmundUK]

wow. What does the ED add to the mix?

[Steve_M_Sport]

Originally Posted by PopeHamish

I've had my car now for 3 weeks and done just over 3k miles in it.

I can honestly say the MPG is phenomenal - I drive mainly long distances but even when I've maintained the speed over 80 it still outperforms my old Golf Bluemotion.

For example, I did a 150 mile run and the journey computer showed an average of 76 mph and the mpg was 66.4.
On another run the traffic was a little heavier and I averaged just under 70 mph but the mpg was 72.3.

Considering how cold it's been since I've had the car I'm very enthused as to what I'll get in the summer months.

Wow - 1000 miles per week is serious motoring .

[swanseahammer]

Originally Posted by ZigmundUK

wow. What does the ED add to the mix?

I've got the sports auto ED and average 5mpg better than my old manual Efficient Dynamics 2008 E90 320d SE.

Averaged 60mpg from Birmingham to Swansea yesterday in comfort mode mainly without hanging about for max mpg

[PopeHamish]

Originally Posted by Steve_M_Sport

Wow - 1000 miles per week is serious motoring .

Just a really busy few weeks - hoping for it to settle down a bit but has at least been a great way to get used to the new car. And with the mpg the way it is the extra miles are a pleasure!

[ZigmundUK]

Originally Posted by swanseahammer

I've got the sports auto ED and average 5mpg better than my old manual Efficient Dynamics 2008 E90 320d SE.

Averaged 60mpg from Birmingham to Swansea yesterday in comfort mode mainly without hanging about for max mpg

Those are sweet figures. Also I miss south wales (bred in the valleys me).

My question was more around how does ED work - I've not read the bunf from BMW on it yet...

[NISFAN]

Originally Posted by ZigmundUK

Those are sweet figures. Also I miss south wales (bred in the valleys me).

My question was more around how does ED work - I've not read the bunf from BMW on it yet...

The ED has a slightly different engine configuration to the normal 320D, lower power output 163hp vs. 184hp, and also other energy saving features, like the special Michelin energy saving tyres, longer gear ratios, etc.

[derekh929]

Originally Posted by NISFAN

The ED has a slightly different engine configuration to the normal 320D, lower power output 163hp vs. 184hp, and also other energy saving features, like the special Michelin energy saving tyres, longer gear ratios, etc.

16" wheels and flaps in the grill or do they all have that?

[NISFAN]

Originally Posted by derekh929

16" wheels and flaps in the grill or do they all have that?

No ED has the special 16" alloys with Michelin Non run flat energy saver tyres.

Didn't think the F30 ED had the grill flaps any more??? E90 did.

[swanseahammer]

Originally Posted by NISFAN

No ED has the special 16" alloys with Michelin Non run flat energy saver tyres.

Didn't think the F30 ED had the grill flaps any more??? E90 did.

My ED came with 16" Goodyear energy saving runflats. In the winter I've been running Bridgestone LM-32 runflats.

[NISFAN]

Originally Posted by swanseahammer

My ED came with 16" Goodyear energy saving runflats. In the winter I've been running Bridgestone LM-32 runflats.

Ah OK, they have switched to RFT now! Can you confirm whether the ED has the closing vents behind the grille like E90 ED?

Do you think the mpg will go up when you put the summer tyre back on?

I imagine the 109g/km CO2 was fairly easy for BMW to hit on the F30. My guess is they will launch an ED2 with all the extra features they used on E90.

[MRPoisson]

I just done over 350 miles on a good mix of A Roads/ M Way and town driving. Showing 44 mpg. Not put the car into Sport yet; waiting to pass 1k. Hopefull of the MPG's improving after covering more miles.........

[UltDriveMachine]

I've done 4500 miles so far, mixed driving when commuting daily to and from work of 60 miles on town and motorway - averaging 50 mpg . Using eco pro most of the time. A brim to brim gives 600 - 620 miles

[jimboss]

right...1000 miles in.....average 43mpg....all done in comfort mode with fairly sedate driving and not going above 80mph on dual carriageways. mixture of daily commute (20miles; 1/2 dual carriageway 1/2 urban) and three long runs circa 150 miles a pop.

my last brim to brim fill up....is averaging 39mpg...all work commute. Engine/oil doesnt get full warmed up and its bloody freezing....using heated seats int he morning mind! dont know whether im happy with that or slightly annoyed!

[swanseahammer]

Originally Posted by NISFAN

Ah OK, they have switched to RFT now! Can you confirm whether the ED has the closing vents behind the grille like E90 ED?

Do you think the mpg will go up when you put the summer tyre back on?

I imagine the 109g/km CO2 was fairly easy for BMW to hit on the F30. My guess is they will launch an ED2 with all the extra features they used on E90.

The RFTs are a £200 option. I bought the car as a 6 month old ex-Olympic car so it was specced to the max - leather seats, heated seats, pro-nav, Sports auto, visibility pack, etc etc.

Can't say I've checked whether the grill has the flaps like the E90 ED.

I suspect my mpg will get better as the temperature improves, don't know if that's just general or down to the tyres.

Wasn't looking for an ED specifically when I bought it, but I absolutely love it

[UltDriveMachine]

Originally Posted by swanseahammer

The RFTs are a £200 option. I bought the car as a 6 month old ex-Olympic car so it was specced to the max - leather seats, heated seats, pro-nav, Sports auto, visibility pack, etc etc.

Can't say I've checked whether the grill has the flaps like the E90 ED.

I suspect my mpg will get better as the temperature improves, don't know if that's just general or down to the tyres.

Wasn't looking for an ED specifically when I bought it, but I absolutely love it

sailing in the same boat. Mine is ex-olympic with same spec + interior comfort with rear folding seats

[flc1962]

Yep you can tell its warming up, my all time average over the last few weeks has now crept up to 49.6 from 49.1, the car has 4200 miles on the clock, no change to driving habits its just getting warmer.