[Kabrich]

Originally Posted by AlpineWhiteF30

Please tell me its Valley BMW in Fayetteville, NC... Those guys there suck and i hope they see this post!!

Been waiting for my car for two moths now for a simple Turbo replacement... I believe i have a Lemon.. Last summer the car had an electrical problem.

Lemon Laws are different in each state that has them. Most are 30 days of car in shop. However, every state I have looked at says the car has to be un-driveable.

Your Turbo issue would qualify.

Constant Limp mode or brake failure would be a safety issue and would qualify.

Leaves in the blower, a water leak or a steering wheel vibration would not apply. One would need to hire and pay a lawyer upfront on their own for something like this. As I have sued a car company twice, its no walk in the park.

BTW, the last one I sued out of my pocket was MB. They drug it out for 5 years. They spent over $100k in legal fees and I spent close to that to finally win.

So those of you thinking of moving to a MB for an issue, lots of luck!

[AlpineWhiteF30]

Originally Posted by Kabrich

Lemon Laws are different in each state that has them. Most are 30 days of car in shop. However, every state I have looked at says the car has to be un-driveable.

Your Turbo issue would qualify.

Constant Limp mode or brake failure would be a safety issue and would qualify.

Leaves in the blower, a water leak or a steering wheel vibration would not apply. One would need to hire and pay a lawyer upfront on their own for something like this. As I have sued a car company twice, its no walk in the park.

BTW, the last one I sued out of my pocket was MB. They drug it out for 5 years. They spent over $100k in legal fees and I spent close to that to finally win.




So those of you thinking of moving to a MB for an issue, lots of luck!

I already checked the Lemon Law for my state. Process take a few months.

[t335xi]

I had a lexus is300 for 8 years that ended at 220k miles and didnt have a single issue other than oil changes, alignments, and brake pads. BMW is really damning themselves by not treating their customers better and improving reliability. The 335 is an amazing car but it is 60k in the trash if its in the shop once or twice a month. I too am relieved I didnt buy this car, i would be terrified of post warranty ownership.

[Kabrich]

Originally Posted by AlpineWhiteF30

I already checked the Lemon Law for my state. Process take a few months.

The justice system is slow in every state.

The sooner you start, the sooner the end.

[Kabrich]

Originally Posted by t335xi

I had a lexus is300 for 8 years that ended at 220k miles and didnt have a single issue other than oil changes, alignments, and brake pads. BMW is really damning themselves by not treating their customers better and improving reliability. The 335 is an amazing car but it is 60k in the trash if its in the shop once or twice a month. I too am relieved I didnt buy this car, i would be terrified of post warranty ownership.

Hmmmm.....


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[drob23]

Originally Posted by Kabrich

Hmmmm.....


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Assuming he is leasing.

[328AL]

Originally Posted by Kabrich

Hmmmm.....


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He probably leased it, as many people do

[328AL]

I had 5 significant issues with my car over 3 years of ownership. I loved driving it, but in terms of reliability, it was nowhere close to my experience with Honda/Acura cars. That's why I'm still getting BMW, but will be leasing it.

[btbossman]

Originally Posted by 328AL

I had 5 significant issues with my car over 3 years of ownership. I loved driving it, but in terms of reliability, it was nowhere close to my experience with Honda/Acura cars. That's why I'm still getting BMW, but will be leasing it.

Oh yes, lease all the way!

[Zive]

I have a 2012 335i 6mt and have driven loaners more than my own vehicle. The suspension sounds like the struts are all bad even after all four have been replaced. The dealer says there are two or three others in the area with the same issue and nobody knows how to fix it. BMW field engineers are "working on a solution", but I may have to lemon law the car after all. Has anyone else heard of this suspension issue?

First post, sorry if I did it wrong.

Thanks!

[wins76]

Originally Posted by BavarianFanatic

You need to be realistic and reasonable. Nothing is perfect, regardless of cost. It's naive to think anything would be perfect and that any issues can/should be immediately corrected. Going "apeshit" on the poor guy behind the counter will do nothing to further your cause or motivate him to help you. It's likely the opposite is true.

Shit happens. Sometimes the cause isn't immediately obvious. Without a clear cause, there will most certainly be some trial and error until progress is made. Dick swinging and foot stomping won't accelerate the progress. But hey, whatever you feel you're entitled to, have at it.

After reading this, I node my head; thanks God that their an insurance in place for malpractice for doctors and a FAA dept. to check on Airplane manufactures.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by 328AL

I had 5 significant issues with my car over 3 years of ownership. I loved driving it, but in terms of reliability, it was nowhere close to my experience with Honda/Acura cars. That's why I'm still getting BMW, but will be leasing it.

Wouldn't purchasing make more sense if somebody was feeling sketchy? You are more contractually bound to the vehicle when you lease, no?

[btbossman]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

Wouldn't purchasing make more sense if somebody was feeling sketchy? You are more contractually bound to the vehicle when you lease, no?

Yeah but when you lease they have to fix it or reimburse you payments...PLus I would never drop 060k on my 335...much rather 600 bucks/mo...After the warranty period who the hell knows what will be going on.

[328AL]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

Wouldn't purchasing make more sense if somebody was feeling sketchy? You are more contractually bound to the vehicle when you lease, no?

When you buy it, you own it, it's your car. When you're leasing it, it is BMWFS car. If something major to happen, it's much easier to terminate a lease than force BMW to buy your back.

[viper446]

Originally Posted by Sphinx-3

Alright, So I finally decided on starting the process with the Lemon Law. I sent the certified notification to the manufacturer for failure to fix the steering wheel vibration issue.
Every time I talk to someone from BMW, they have no clue as what to do
!! It's been over a month now and the sad part is I've driven loaner cars more than my own car!!

I am totally disappointed but I've waited longer than I should. Their ONLY bright idea was: let's balance the wheels over and over and over again and may be that will fix it. Shame on BMW!!

Sounds horrible, so much for BMW Certified dealers right? lol

[Kabrich]

Originally Posted by viper446

Sounds horrible, so much for BMW Certified dealers right? lol

You do realize you are responding to someone who posted this about 16 months ago - and hasn't been here in over 6 since months?