[DarkTrigger]

Originally Posted by ocso1606

Hoping my car is finished tommorow!

Same here. The current status of my car is that it won't start...

[The Nerd]

Originally Posted by 300hp

I am in the same boat as you but look at roundels pic of his MPE. He posted it when show ing the mperformance decals. It just looks cleaner. The stock also tends to have build up of exhaust fumes. I would get the MPE for the cleaner look and sound alone. I agree though the stock sounds fine but the MPE picks it up a notch.

I actually have the black exhaust tips (I have the Sportline, not M Sport), so it would change the look even more. Not sure how I feel about the stock black tips....they're definitely unique.

[ocso1606]

Originally Posted by DarkTrigger

Same here. The current status of my car is that it won't start...

They tell you why it wont start?

[DarkTrigger]

Originally Posted by ocso1606

They tell you why it wont start?

Nope. The less I know the better... They still said I should have it back by Monday though. We'll see.

[300hp]

Originally Posted by DarkTrigger

Nope. The less I know the better... They still said I should have it back by Monday though. We'll see.

They installed the DME h/ware. The software in your car will not accept new h/ware w/out proper authentication by the mothership, BMW NA or Germany. As a result your car takes the most extreme measure, which is to completely shut down until the car hears from the mothership or God himself. Once IRAP is initiated, BMW will take care of it, otherwise only prayers will help you now.

Of course BMW will give your car the proper TLC Unfortunately the shut down phase is the step right before happiness, thats how it worked out for everyone with DME.

[300hp]

Originally Posted by DarkTrigger

Sorry, can't find. Also, it's not a BOV as I was attacked last time I called it that.

I also wanna add that Dinh had posted the PPK without MPE, and someone posted PPK with MPE already. I haven't checked the front page in awhile, and they were up there. I actually like the way the stock exhaust sounds with MPPK (or maybe it's just the audio quality).

Manual MPPK w/ MPE

Manual MPPK w/ StockE + 0 miles

Manual MPPK w/ StockE + 250 miles

The MPE just makes the car sound more menacing. Stock and MPPK is fine and its ok to end there but I still would like to unleash the full potential of the sound from this. The mix of the revving sweet inline 6, the turbo whistles and the exhaust is just great. There is no need to achieve high speeds to enjoy the car (the car can let you do that too), its just great to just roll down your windows, drive within the speed limits and listen to those 3

Anyone with DHP who has rolled down the windows and listened to the suspension as it absorbs the road bumps in comfort or eco pro mode?

[DarkTrigger]

Originally Posted by 300hp

They installed the DME h/ware. The software in your car will not accept new h/ware w/out proper authentication by the mothership, BMW NA or Germany. As a result your car takes the most extreme measure, which is to completely shut down until the car hears from the mothership or God himself. Once IRAP is initiated, BMW will take care of it, otherwise only prayers will help you now.

Of course BMW will give your car the proper TLC Unfortunately the shut down phase is the step right before happiness, thats how it worked out for everyone with DME.

I hope so. I told them to do the IRAP immediately though...grrr

[300hp]

Originally Posted by DarkTrigger

I hope so. I told them to do the IRAP immediately though...grrr

I did too, don't worry we all got our cars back, your car is in the right hands now.

[Ed335xi m]

If you have a manual MPPK does the sports display changes from 320/320 to 320/400???

[rallybull]

Originally Posted by Ed335xi m

If you have a manual MPPK does the sports display changes from 320/320 to 320/400???

No.

[Ed335xi m]

Originally Posted by tojo_m

No.

Thanks

[Blue75]

Just following on from 300hp's comments above regarding the combination of the MPE and the MPPK....is there any functional/performance advantage to having the MPE over the stock exhaust once you get the MPPK?

Obviously there are audible improvements to the exhaust note/volume/burble etc with the MPE but is there any reason to assume a car with both the MPPK+MPE would be at all quicker than a car with just MPPK and stock exhaust (eg reduced back pressure or something??).

I am interested in the MPPK but the cost of these mods is significantly more here in Oz than you guys are paying in the US so gut feel is that if I am ok with the current stock exhaust sound then the MPPK is the one that actually gets me a "tangible" improvement (for lack of a better word). The combo of both might be stretching the budget but just checking that i would not be "hindering" the PPK from achieving its full potential if I didn't get the MPE as well.

Many thanks.

[buildbright]

Originally Posted by Blue75

Just following on from 300hp's comments above regarding the combination of the MPE and the MPPK....is there any functional/performance advantage to having the MPE over the stock exhaust once you get the MPPK?

Obviously there are audible improvements to the exhaust note/volume/burble etc with the MPE but is there any reason to assume a car with both the MPPK+MPE would be at all quicker than a car with just MPPK and stock exhaust (eg reduced back pressure or something??).

I am interested in the MPPK but the cost of these mods is significantly more here in Oz than you guys are paying in the US so gut feel is that if I am ok with the current stock exhaust sound then the MPPK is the one that actually gets me a "tangible" improvement (for lack of a better word). The combo of both might be stretching the budget but just checking that i would not be "hindering" the PPK from achieving its full potential if I didn't get the MPE as well.

Many thanks.

MPE is for sound. BMW did an amazing job on building the stock exhaust from a performance aspect.

[Agamemnon]

For sure go for the MPPK. That will make a world of difference. The MPE would make a very modest contribution if at all. It is mainly an audible difference. You can always add it later as funds permit.

That is the route I am going. I actually think the next performance improvement I would make would be getting a set of lightweight forged wheels like HRE - shed like 20 lbs off of the rolling mass would make a big difference to feel.

[Blue75]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

For sure go for the MPPK. That will make a world of difference. The MPE would make a very modest contribution if at all. It is mainly an audible difference. You can always add it later as funds permit.

That is the route I am going. I actually think the next performance improvement I would make would be getting a set of lightweight forged wheels like HRE - shed like 20 lbs off of the rolling mass would make a big difference to feel.

Thanks guys. One other lingering question...can anyone offer feedback on fuel consumption post MPPK installation?

I see the official spiel from BMW mentions no change, but if the comfort mode throttle mapping becomes more like sport mode post installation (as several posters have suggested) how can the mpg stay the same??

[300hp]

Originally Posted by Blue75

Thanks guys. One other lingering question...can anyone offer feedback on fuel consumption post MPPK installation?

I see the official spiel from BMW mentions no change, but if the comfort mode throttle mapping becomes more like sport mode post installation (as several posters have suggested) how can the mpg stay the same??

Yes go for mppk. The sound is fine with the stock exhaust. MPE is a mod I want to get all the sound potential of the car with mppk. I am happy with the current set up though.

The mpg has remained the same for me since I picked the car up.

[djw007]

Originally Posted by Blue75

Just following on from 300hp's comments above regarding the combination of the MPE and the MPPK....is there any functional/performance advantage to having the MPE over the stock exhaust once you get the MPPK?

Obviously there are audible improvements to the exhaust note/volume/burble etc with the MPE but is there any reason to assume a car with both the MPPK+MPE would be at all quicker than a car with just MPPK and stock exhaust (eg reduced back pressure or something??).

I am interested in the MPPK but the cost of these mods is significantly more here in Oz than you guys are paying in the US so gut feel is that if I am ok with the current stock exhaust sound then the MPPK is the one that actually gets me a "tangible" improvement (for lack of a better word). The combo of both might be stretching the budget but just checking that i would not be "hindering" the PPK from achieving its full potential if I didn't get the MPE as well.

Many thanks.

I got the MPE for $1275 installed in Sydney...not too bad i think. Truth is though i can barely tell the difference between stock and MPE, very very small difference. Do you have a price for the PPK inc install?

[irishbrahmin]

I thought that BMW advertised that the PE adds about 5 hp and 3 ft-lbs of torque? (Not much, I know.)

Also, in 30 mins. I'm scheduled to have the MPPK installed on my '13 335i 6MT w/PE. I've printed out a lot of the helpful insights from this forum to give to my SA. Hopefully I'll get it back this evening!

[shivaswrath]

Originally Posted by Blue75

Thanks guys. One other lingering question...can anyone offer feedback on fuel consumption post MPPK installation?

I see the official spiel from BMW mentions no change, but if the comfort mode throttle mapping becomes more like sport mode post installation (as several posters have suggested) how can the mpg stay the same??

For me when driving the same as before, it's slightly better.

The tune definitely leaned out the AF slightly.

When I'm on it, and pulling 50-100mph runs, it's not so great, lol.

Again, to tune a car, steering, and sound and not change MPG is a feat.

Non OEM tuners will really have to step it up...

[RoundelM3]

Originally Posted by Blue75

Thanks guys. One other lingering question...can anyone offer feedback on fuel consumption post MPPK installation?

I see the official spiel from BMW mentions no change, but if the comfort mode throttle mapping becomes more like sport mode post installation (as several posters have suggested) how can the mpg stay the same??

Yes - I posted in this thread earlier that on a recent trip, driving mostly on the Interstate at 75-85 MPH in Comfort mode, I saw 31 MPG. On a shorter trip with more mixed driving, but with some brief periods of driving 90+, I got 28.5 MPG. This is consistent with what I was getting prior to the MPPK install.

[irishbrahmin]

So I just dropped my car off to have the PPK w/DME installed.

A few weeks ago my SA and I had discussed 1.5-2h of labor. Well, in the interim BMW has sent out an SIB (or what looks like an SIB) which says that the install is a 7h job. Fortunately, my dealership charges a slightly lower rate for installing performance parts. I'll also get a BMW CCA discount. Nevertheless, the cost will probably be a bit north of $1600.

[Dinh335]

fuel economy after a month of driving, in similar conditions, is essentially the same.

I do mainly city to work and some highway on way home and still net around 22mpg.

As mentioned earlier, the "impact" of the PPK is felt mostly at highway speeds in passing situations... 50-90 range.

You will hit triple digits by accident when your mind thinks you're around 80mph