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      03-14-2013, 12:25 AM   #353
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Here is the real info on PPK:

The MSRP will be $1,100 for cars produced from 11/12 and $1,250 for cars produced before 11/12 (price is higher because the earlier cars require a new DME - which comes in the kit).

The Power Kit will include:

•A new engine cover with the M Performance logo.
•A new air box to maximize engine intake air volume.
•A plaque for the engine compartment.
•An M Performance appliqué for the rocker panel.

Expected release is beginning of April.
That is swell, can't wait to see the pictures and results.
Dude why we 328i owners left out.
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      03-14-2013, 01:00 AM   #354
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That is swell, can't wait to see the pictures and results.
Dude why we 328i owners left out.

I dont know why, its a shame! Hopefully they will change their minds about that. Big push for M-Performance line is coming up, so maybe if everything does well, PPK will expand
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I dont know why, its a shame! Hopefully they will change their minds about that. Big push for M-Performance line is coming up, so maybe if everything does well, PPK will expand
What is the big push?
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      03-14-2013, 01:33 AM   #356
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What is the big push?
I think he means big Marketing Push.
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      03-14-2013, 01:38 AM   #357
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Although I love it but I'm contended with my 320i at the moment. No complaints
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335i (F30) and PPK

Saw in a German Forum (www.motortalk.com) that a first PPK was installed last week. The owner seems to be very happy with it
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I think he means big Marketing Push.
As of now, most parts departments don't even know what M-Performance parts are available, so imagine how Client Advisers are dealing with questions about this line of accessories?

Dealers are going to be equipped with an F10 loaded with MPP to better get the message out, and have it on the showroom floor to force people to get familiar with it.

Also there is confusion with M-Performance Parts, true M cars (M3, M5 M6 etc, and the variant line of M235i, M135i etc.

So this is all stuff currently in the works to simplify and get a better understanding of
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      03-14-2013, 09:53 AM   #360
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I think he means big Marketing Push.
As of now, most parts departments don't even know what M-Performance parts are available, so imagine how Client Advisers are dealing with questions about this line of accessories?

Dealers are going to be equipped with an F10 loaded with MPP to better get the message out, and have it on the showroom floor to force people to get familiar with it.

Also there is confusion with M-Performance Parts, true M cars (M3, M5 M6 etc, and the variant line of M235i, M135i etc.

So this is all stuff currently in the works to simplify and get a better understanding of
Is the ppk going to be restricted to m sport equipped cars as rumored earlier?
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Yes. There is additional cooling capacity (oil and water cooler) and upgraded fan that comes with Msport cars. This is required for the PPK.
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      03-14-2013, 10:16 AM   #362
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As of now, most parts departments don't even know what M-Performance parts are available, so imagine how Client Advisers are dealing with questions about this line of accessories?

Dealers are going to be equipped with an F10 loaded with MPP to better get the message out, and have it on the showroom floor to force people to get familiar with it.

Also there is confusion with M-Performance Parts, true M cars (M3, M5 M6 etc, and the variant line of M235i, M135i etc.

So this is all stuff currently in the works to simplify and get a better understanding of
Interesting. Thanks for the info. I posted earlier when you first posted the update. Is there any power info yet on the ppk?
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Yes. There is additional cooling capacity (oil and water cooler) and upgraded fan that comes with Msport cars. This is required for the PPK.
Aha! So THAT's why there's no foglamps with M-Sport. And that's what those two radiator-like devices behind the right and left air intakes in the bumper are. This is good...I'm definitely interested in this factory PPK even more so now.
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Really want the new engine cover.

So not to beat this topic even further but if you have PPK w/ the updated DME (Production before 11/12) and for example cobb ap does have a setting to work w/ PPK, does that mean you can stack tunes or is that still dumb?
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Yes. There is additional cooling capacity (oil and water cooler) and upgraded fan that comes with Msport cars. This is required for the PPK.
Hmm, I thought there was a big debate on that awhile back and the concensus was that there wasnt upgraded cooling in the msport, only the bumper differences.

My mind is foggy though. The ppk has never been restricted to msport only cars before as far as I know.

I swear, this thing is a unicorn.

Says 3 series Sedan and Touring here as for as model availability, no mention of M Sport
http://www.bmw.com/com/en/owners/acc...l=F30&cat=1009

Further on Msport and Sport cooling:
http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=637828

Will there be a power bump for the M Sport 335i?

No. We have increased cooling capabilities for the M Sport and Sport Line model [via extra cooler behind fog lights on passenger side - pictured right], but no power bump. Many customers like the M Sport Package as just an aerodynamics package; that’s why we separated things like the Adaptive Sport Suspension and Sport Steering as options apart from the M Sport package, so customer can make choices between aesthetics and functional enhancements.

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Aha! So THAT's why there's no foglamps with M-Sport. And that's what those two radiator-like devices behind the right and left air intakes in the bumper are. This is good...I'm definitely interested in this factory PPK even more so now.
Right. Anyone who has an Msport can confirm by looking in the engine bay or just looking through the bumper. You can retrofit the Msport bumper to a sport/modern/luxury but it will not have the additional cooling unless you install those items as well (very expensive). BMW does things right-- they want OEM reliability to remain in tact. I don't know of any other tuners (currently) who are adding additional cooling capacity along with the tunes so you can flog them all day on track. Stay tuned...
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Says 3 series Sedan and Touring here as for as model availability, no mention of M Sport
http://www.bmw.com/com/en/owners/acc...l=F30&cat=1009
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That BMW site is NOT USA specific. The US market is quite different.
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EDIT: oops already covered. The sportline also has additional cooling. It just doesnt have the water cooler on the driver side. It elaborates a bit here http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=637828. The sportline and msports have an oil cooler on passenger side.
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EDIT: oops already covered. The sportline also has additional cooling. It just doesnt have the water cooler on the driver side. It elaborates a bit here http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=637828. The sportline and msports have an oil cooler on passenger side.
Yessir, that's the 2nd thread I linked in my post above when I mentioned the Msport doesn't have additional cooling.
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I think this thread shows that the m sport does have additional cooling: http://www.f30post.com/forums/showth...ght=oil+cooler
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I think this thread shows that the m sport does have additional cooling: http://www.f30post.com/forums/showth...ght=oil+cooler
I guess it is possible the 3 series Product Manager for BMWNA is wrong when he said "We have increased cooling capabilities for the M Sport and Sport Line model [via extra cooler behind fog lights on passenger side - pictured right], but no power bump. Many customers like the M Sport Package as just an aerodynamics package; that’s why we separated things like the Adaptive Sport Suspension and Sport Steering as options apart from the M Sport package, so customer can make choices between aesthetics and functional enhancements."

Perhaps M sport and Sport have additional cooling than the other lines? He lumps them together when speaking of the extra cooler behind the fog lights on the passenger side.
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Well - I'm here to tell you that my M-Sport has an additional cooling "radiator" on the driver's side as well as the one on the passenger side. That much I can verify. This would suggest that the PPK might have a significant power bump for M-Sport cars when it does finally appear.
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Here's the thread from motor-talk.de where one guy has already got it installed with a picture of the engine bay too a little further down the thread.

20hp gain 50nm torque as previously described for about 1400 Euros.

It's all in german, but google translate did a half reasonable job

http://www.motor-talk.de/forum/ppk-3...-t4440918.html
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Well at least we know that it exists! From what I could get from the translation is that the performance is real and drivability is good. Its going to be a tough decision whether to go with this or the Dinan tune.
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