12-01-2012, 09:19 AM | #1 |
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M Sport Brake upgrade
Just a bit of info for those wanting to know if the "Brake upgrade" was any good and worth the money.
IMO after driving the Sport without the upgrade for most of the day, and then getting back into mine with the upgrade, the difference was really noticeable the upgraded brakes are so so much better, peddle feel is really good and feel is very much improved. It would not be as easy to notice if the cars were not driven back to back. Worth it to me, and this is not from a mad boot down driver, you can feel the difference in normal driving.
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Thats great news at least it's money well spent!
How did the satnav issue go with the dealer..
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12-01-2012, 09:32 AM | #3 |
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Yep it sure is, if you have them on order you wont regret it.
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12-01-2012, 11:38 AM | #5 | |
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I put top-notch aftermarket brakes (AP Racing) on my last two cars and I'd never be without them. Not something you can appreciate the value of until you've driven cars with and without. It's good to hear you feel the difference in normal driving. This fits my experience - in normal road situations, it's more about a reassuringly firm pedal, feel and control. The M Sport brakes sound like great value from your comments :-) Now all I need is for the next two weeks to go by quickly ... Dave |
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The STD brakes IMO are soft almost spongy in comparison.
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12-01-2012, 12:01 PM | #8 |
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I know exactly what you mean.....the 4 pots will also react better to aftermarket pads too
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Again, this is down to personal taste but, if you like involvement, feel and control, then I'd say you'll miss that feeling the second you step into a car with ordinary brakes. Yes, you will get used to good brakes, just as you do real power (or torque in our world). But likewise, I think you'd miss them hugely them if someone downgraded your brakes to standard overnight. For me, great brakes, with firm pedal, genuine feel and real control are every bit as high on the list as handling and straight-line go. By control, I mean the ability to start braking, push a bit harder, feel clearly where you are relative to lockup or ABS kicking in through the pedal and then having complete confidence in all braking situations. You end up with a level of control that makes a difference even in normal A-B driving. And when you do a bit of spirited driving, it's just marvellous. I'm leasing my car, so I can't do any mods and that makes me very happy to hear the M Sport upgrade is pretty good. Dave My concern was that the M Sport brakes might not make a big difference, |
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I've driven with brembos and Baer brakes on previous rides, and I felt like my stock 335i 4-potters were almost up to the same task (I might put on some stainless steel lines to make them stiffer)...
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Mine is on the 330D M Sport, not sure if the upgrade is available to all F30/31 models, you will have to check. Anyone?.
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Here in the UK, the M Sport brake upgrade gives the 4 pot calipers painted blue, with bigger discs all round. I can't remember if the rear calipers are 2 piston or the standard single sided piston but are also painted blue. It is basically the same caliper kit as M Performance but with non drilled discs. Which to me is a bonus, having drilled discs on anything other than a track car is stupid. |
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Yes, the M perf upgrade didn't seem to make sense to me, because all it offered were larger rotors...which, for a non track, commuter car, doesn't make any sense...but it's nice to see that the 4-potter in the US 335i is similar to the one used in the kit!
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At £570 the M Sport Brake System seems a bargain. Non-M Sport owners are forced down the route of the M Performance 18" Brake System which probably won't get you much change out of £2k?
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Is there actually better stopping/braking performance from the brake upgrade; or is it solely down to pedal feel/lack of fade etc.?
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Of course the upgraded system has more capacity, which for track use would come into it's own. |
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Hard driving and the upgrade wins, also "Feel" to anyone into performance means a great deal and gives confidence, IMO from what time spent driving both, the upgrade gives me a lot more.
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The calipers are different as the fronts on 2NH are 370mm - standard 335i fronts are 345mm. The rears on 2NH are also larger than standard. |
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For EU/ROW available on all engine versions of M-sport, so relatively speaking it's better value for a 316i/d than a 335i as the cost is the same but the incremental upgrade is bigger.
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Anyone know if 335i/330d get the same (standard) brakes in the UK? Or are the 335i's discs bigger etc.?
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