[dungaboy]

Originally Posted by SHAZED

Hi mate what did you get done to your car tuning wise and can you pm me the details of the tuner

https://ecotune-scotland.co.uk/chipt...244&engine=781

[sploo]

Just cross-referencing another tuned 330d (with a remapped Steinbauer box) at Surrey Rolling Road: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...&postcount=105

[Palexr]

Doesn't this argue that the "generic" Bluespark box is by far the best bang for your buck option at only £150? Seems a no-brainer. Can you tell my car is coming tomorrow?

Originally Posted by MarkG335

Here's the data - any requests on graphage?]

[sploo]

Originally Posted by Palexr

Doesn't this argue that the "generic" Bluespark box is by far the best bang for your buck option at only £150? Seems a no-brainer. Can you tell my car is coming tomorrow?

Based on the fact it (from a quick read) is increasing the rail pressure: yes, it's the best bang for the buck... until your car starts throwing error codes because it's fooling the ECU into over pressurising the rail (meaning it affects all stages of the injection process, all the time - which isn't what you really want). At least that's my understanding.

[WeaverBeaver]

I was certain I wanted a dual-channel box, was looking at Bluespark but opted for Spider Performance - with discount of 30% using a code got it for £260, so given its dual-channel i.e. boost and fuel rail, its actually cheaper than Bluespark's pro boost dual channel version.

It's a high quality bit of kit, and whereas with the Bluespark to change the settings you have to remove and unscrew the top, with the Spider it has Bluetooth so you can change on the fly on your phone from the driver seat. I've found this incredibly useful as one of the maps has more lower down torque which I find great for motorway driving etc, whereas another map is more mid-high range so I choose that if going for a blast. You don't have to keep on opening bonnet etc. to change the setting.

Hadn't heard of them until recently, but must say I'm incredibly happy with it, and the customer service, and would highly recommend.

[sploo]

Originally Posted by WeaverBeaver

I was certain I wanted a dual-channel box, was looking at Bluespark but opted for Spider Performance - with discount of 30% using a code got it for £260, so given its dual-channel i.e. boost and fuel rail, its actually cheaper than Bluespark's pro boost dual channel version

It looks to be another rail pressure hack; albeit with some claimed "smarts". Might be OK for long term use I guess. The Steinbauer units aren't cheap, but I do like the way they get the performance from modifying the injector pulses, as opposed to trying to fool the rail pressure readings.

Don't let a mate get hold of the app; otherwise he might mess with your car

[WeaverBeaver]

True, Steinbauer is the exception in this regard. But personally for me the price of the Steinbauer unit isn't worth it - I'd rather get better gains with a £399 ECU remap from superchips, obviously warranty goes out the window though so you take a risk...

All the other tuning boxes still fool the ECU, but the dual-channel boxes give better gains by also being able to alter boost. Even better would be a third channel for MAF sensor, but I'm not aware of any box that provides this for the 330d or 335d yet.

[Kal101]

Originally Posted by WeaverBeaver

True, Steinbauer is the exception in this regard. But personally for me the price of the Steinbauer unit isn't worth it - I'd rather get better gains with a £399 ECU remap from superchips, obviously warranty goes out the window though so you take a risk...

All the other tuning boxes still fool the ECU, but the dual-channel boxes give better gains by also being able to alter boost. Even better would be a third channel for MAF sensor, but I'm not aware of any box that provides this for the 330d or 335d yet.

Just to add. Believe superchips are offering a warranty of upto 2 years. Not sure if this is at extra cost etc or the full deal but there is a thread on here about it.

[WeaverBeaver]

Sounds mighty tempting, do you know if anyone has taken the plunge on the Superchips remap yet?

[sploo]

Originally Posted by Kal27

Just to add. Believe superchips are offering a warranty of upto 2 years. Not sure if this is at extra cost etc or the full deal but there is a thread on here about it.

That's surely going to be a warranty on their work rather than a warranty on your engine going pop though isn't it? There's a reason for the cost difference between the ACS tuning box (box + engine warranty) and the Steinbauer box, even though it's the same hardware for oil burners.

[WeaverBeaver]

As I understand it's a proper warranty i.e. if your engine/turbo/gearbox goes pop as a result of the remap then they will cover it - I guess the tricky bit in these situations if something goes wrong is proving that it was the remap that caused it. But I guess the same can be said of the tuning box warranties.

[sploo]

Originally Posted by WeaverBeaver

As I understand it's a proper warranty i.e. if your engine/turbo/gearbox goes pop as a result of the remap then they will cover it - I guess the tricky bit in these situations if something goes wrong is proving that it was the remap that caused it. But I guess the same can be said of the tuning box warranties.

Impressive!

[jamal6008]

Has anyone tried the ecotune stage 1 on BMW 330D sdrive?

[bak2basics]

I've just ordered the Bluespark CR Tech2. Just wondering which setting people would recommend it be run at? (Hope this doesn't start a debate about how bad tuning boxes are etc)

[tjlees]

Originally Posted by bak2basics

I've just ordered the Bluespark CR Tech2. Just wondering which setting people would recommend it be run at? (Hope this doesn't start a debate about how bad tuning boxes are etc)

J335D is the person ask about that. On the SSR rolling road this had a smooth power delivery - as good as the remaps.

[AndyTo]

Originally Posted by bak2basics

I've just ordered the Bluespark CR Tech2. Just wondering which setting people would recommend it be run at? (Hope this doesn't start a debate about how bad tuning boxes are etc)

I've had mine for a few months, have it set on middle jumper setting and it makes a noticeable difference, just as smooth as stock only with what feels like 10% more grunt across the whole rev range.
It's not a monumental gain, but enough to notice, so worth the money.

[bak2basics]

Cheers lads. Yeah ill wait to hear back from J335D as those dyno results show a really smooth graph with a relatively inexpensive piece of kit. Will get mine on this week hopefully

[J335D]

Originally Posted by bak2basics

Cheers lads. Yeah ill wait to hear back from J335D as those dyno results show a really smooth graph with a relatively inexpensive piece of kit. Will get mine on this week hopefully

Sorry Guys, travelling at the Moment, I cant stress enough the good level of service the Guys provide, I had it tested on Setting 1, the results speak for themselves, I ahve now gone to 3 with no disadvantage in anyway! Well worth it, Let me know if you have any questions.

J

[bak2basics]

I have it on C at the moment ready to go on the car, but thought id ask before i put it on. Is this what you would recommend?
Appreciate the advise buddy.

[J335D]

Originally Posted by bak2basics

I have it on C at the moment ready to go on the car, but thought id ask before i put it on. Is this what you would recommend?
Appreciate the advise buddy.

Hi,
Tried those settings, depends what you want, I have just put it all the way left now and left it there, its GOOD, but start where you are and experiment.