[metrathon]

Originally Posted by E902F30

See the video below for something I found related to wind noise on my 2012 335i.

After reading through this, I think there are multiple issues going on in this thread. I believe the gap I measured above definitely affects some of the 2012s out there. NONE of the other 3 series cars on the lot had a gap anything like the one on my car!

I had the same gap, exactly like yours. I fixed it by leasing a Lexus GS. Quiet as a tomb.

[dL.]

Originally Posted by rambalu80

I have a 2016 F30 and have very noticeable wind noise above 35-40 mph. Anyone else with a 2016 F30 experience wind noise issues?

Nope. My 340i is dead silent at all speed and it's the quietest F30 I've ever sat in.

My 2013 F30 in contrast was a lot worse.

dL

[AndDown]

Originally Posted by bluemark

Anyone know if the 4 series also suffers from wind noise?

We have a 2016 428i GC and it seems to have much less wind noise than our previous 2013 328i. Had a couple of whistling issues with the 328i: The left A pillar molding around the windshield would whistle at highway speeds - the replacement took care of it. The drivers side door molding would flutter at speeds above 80 mph, the replacement solved that. The 428i seems to be more solidly built with no creaks or squeaks (yet). I notice that the open space between (inside) the front fenders and the front doors is also now sealed with a rubber molding gasket and the doors shut with a more solid sound.

[pocky]

I guess I'll chime in. Took deliver of a new 2016 340i. It has a whistle noise coming from the front of the vehicle at 60+. Does not appear to be any wind noise coming in. It's with Charlie at McKenna right now. Lol

[S4NoMore]

Originally Posted by E902F30

See the video below for something I found related to wind noise on my 2012 335i.

After reading through this, I think there are multiple issues going on in this thread. I believe the gap I measured above definitely affects some of the 2012s out there. NONE of the other 3 series cars on the lot had a gap anything like the one on my car!

I measured the seals on my '12 this way and got about 10-11 mm on all windows. Previously I had pointed out to my SA and tech that the seal at the b-pillar was loose, they "couldn't replicate" at that time. I'll try with this measurement, they've been good to me so far so hopefully the trend continues before my warranty runs out this summer.

It looks like the part measured is actually one piece that includes the vertical seals at the window edges, so a new set of seals could work wonders.

[rambalu80]

Originally Posted by pocky

I guess I'll chime in. Took deliver of a new 2016 340i. It has a whistle noise coming from the front of the vehicle at 60+. Does not appear to be any wind noise coming in. It's with Charlie at McKenna right now. Lol

Was the dealership able to fix it? If so, can you tell me what the fix was?

[S4NoMore]

Originally Posted by S4NoMore

I measured the seals on my '12 this way and got about 10-11 mm on all windows. Previously I had pointed out to my SA and tech that the seal at the b-pillar was loose, they "couldn't replicate" at that time. I'll try with this measurement, they've been good to me so far so hopefully the trend continues before my warranty runs out this summer.

It looks like the part measured is actually one piece that includes the vertical seals at the window edges, so a new set of seals could work wonders.

My dealer and technician took care of me, all 4 window seals were replaced under warranty. Given that I was in a 5-series loaner for 3 days it's not a back-to-back comparison, but visually the difference is clear. There was a part number revision that superseded what I had on my '12, hopefully they hug the windows tightly for as long as I have the car.

I think I can still hear the turbulence off the mirror if I go radio silent, but overall the wind noise seems subjectively to have dropped at least a bit, maybe a couple dB.

[shinichilee]

Originally Posted by rambalu80

Was the dealership able to fix it? If so, can you tell me what the fix was?

Same problem occured to me, took it to the dealership and it took about 1 hour to have that fixed. So imo it's not a great challenge nor uncommon for the service folks. I guess they are fully aware of the design flaw and have taken care of quite a bunch of f30 regarding the wind noise.
The whistling issue has been considerably better after then.

[shawntech]

Mine also whistles/sirens, 2016 340i msport 250 miles.

What is the resolution?

[bluemark]

Originally Posted by ls3c6

Mine also whistles/sirens, 2016 340i msport 250 miles.

What is the resolution?

Your issue sounds like the front windshield left and right molding which I'm surprised is still popping up on a 2016 model. Many of the complaints of wind noise is at the upper front edge of the B-pillar and unfortunately, there does not appear to be a resolution other than getting something other than the 3 series. I have a 2013 and just came from test driving a 2017. The 2017 is as bad, if not worst than mine at the exact same location as mine. Even the salesmen admitted to it. Every person that sits in the passenger seat of my car reaches for the window toggle as they think the window is ajar. I have a few months left on my lease and will not be getting another 3 series. As much as I like the LCI improvements over mine, I won't be getting another specifically due to wind noise. Hope you can find a solution, but many here have tried many things to no avail.

[shawntech]

Originally Posted by bluemark

Your issue sounds like the front windshield left and right molding which I'm surprised is still popping up on a 2016 model. Many of the complaints of wind noise is at the upper front edge of the B-pillar and unfortunately, there does not appear to be a resolution other than getting something other than the 3 series. I have a 2013 and just came from test driving a 2017. The 2017 is as bad, if not worst than mine at the exact same location as mine. Even the salesmen admitted to it. Every person that sits in the passenger seat of my car reaches for the window toggle as they think the window is ajar. I have a few months left on my lease and will not be getting another 3 series. As much as I like the LCI improvements over mine, I won't be getting another specifically due to wind noise. Hope you can find a solution, but many here have tried many things to no avail.

Other than the whistle I'd say its quieter overall than the e90 it replaced... yes I hear some wind buffeting at speed around the front door windows but that doesn't bother me... the siren however is not acceptable.

[bluemark]

Originally Posted by ls3c6

Other than the whistle I'd say its quieter overall than the e90 it replaced... yes I hear some wind buffeting at speed around the front door windows but that doesn't bother me... the siren however is not acceptable.

I agree that overall, it is quieter, but my e90 never had ANY wind noise like this. And after 4 years with my e90, not a rattle or creak. The same can't be said about my f30 as squeaks and rattles are an over abundant feature. Auto manufacturers have really stepped up their game in the last few years and I think BMW has rested on their laurels while others have surpassed them in many areas. I've driven both the new C class and the new A4, and they are so much more refined and quiet than the 3. They feel like luxurious performance where the F30 just feels like performance. That may be ok for some, but I think most people expect more these days. Many reviewers are also commenting on this as illustrated here:

http://paultan.org/2016/03/30/driven...still-keep-up/

I wanted so much for the LCI to address the noise issues, but unfortunately, that did not seem to be a priority to BMW, so I'm struggling with what to do in the coming months when my lease comes due as I've been a BMW driver for many years.

[shawntech]

I did just inspect the mirrors and a pillar windshield trim everything looks perfect... may have to bring it in I don't see anything that would take in air and create the whistling sound.

Regarding audi/merc and others maybe they do offer more tomb like quietness and "luxury" but the bmws are the only ones I want to get in and drive like a mad man every time out the driveway.

The rest feel lethargic and delayed in throttle response, I tried to like a cls550 but so boring. Audi has never felt balanced to me to run hard from a stop thru a turn or even spirited switchbacks.

BMW seems to have the greatest recipe albeit quality and materials have been taken down a notch in favor for a bunch of tech that's not really useful to anyone.

[bluemark]

Originally Posted by ls3c6

I did just inspect the mirrors and a pillar windshield trim everything looks perfect... may have to bring it in I don't see anything that would take in air and create the whistling sound.

Regarding audi/merc and others maybe they do offer more tomb like quietness and "luxury" but the bmws are the only ones I want to get in and drive like a mad man every time out the driveway.

The rest feel lethargic and delayed in throttle response, I tried to like a cls550 but so boring. Audi has never felt balanced to me to run hard from a stop thru a turn or even spirited switchbacks.

BMW seems to have the greatest recipe albeit quality and materials have been taken down a notch in favor for a bunch of tech that's not really useful to anyone.

Agree - It depends what's most important to people.

[shawntech]

Originally Posted by bluemark

Agree - It depends what's most important to people.

Noise is important, my tacky "m performance" dead pedal creaks too appears to be glued on or something *sigh* got it up to 550 miles today I'll stop down to service and see what they say

[bluemark]

Originally Posted by ls3c6

Noise is important, my tacky "m performance" dead pedal creaks too appears to be glued on or something *sigh* got it up to 550 miles today I'll stop down to service and see what they say

I hear you. It's important to me as well. I can tolerate some road noise and engine noise, but to me, rattles, creaks and wind noise that I can greatly reduce by pressing on the upper rear corner of the glass is totally unacceptable for any vehicle. Just points to poor quality and fitment. I've also noticed the panel gaps and seams are about twice as wide on my car than on many other cars. I find myself checking it out each time I park beside another car. My lease is almost up, so I am no longer pursuing these issues with my dealer, but good luck with yours.

[overkill1125]

I get excessive wind coming in near the drivers tweeters whenever my sunroof is tilted open and I hear and feel the wind when I go above 65. If the sunroof is closed, there's no wind or noise at any speed.

[bluemark]

Originally Posted by overkill1125

I get excessive wind coming in near the drivers tweeters whenever my sunroof is tilted open and I hear and feel the wind when I go above 65. If the sunroof is closed, there's no wind or noise at any speed.

You seem to be one of the lucky ones. I've driven half a dozen F30's in search of a quiet one and they all had excessive wind noise even with the sunroof closed.

[bluemark]

Broke down and bought a 2016 435 M-Sport. Although the car is so much more refined and solid than my 2013 328 was, there is still wind noise above 50 mph. What I do notice though, is what I perceive as wind noise changes with varying road surfaces. I think at least some of the wind noise is being contributed to by the road surface noise. I'm sure it is not a seal issue on this 435 as they seem to have added seals everywhere, but the more I think of it, I'm wondering if it is possible its the thickness of glass itself, or not acoustic glass?

[bluemark]

ok, very interesting observation today which confirms my previous post! I was driving on a particular highway today that was paved about 3 months ago and noticed as I transitioned to this highway, the car goes EXTREMELY quiet. Not only did wind noise all but disappear, the road noise was next to nil. This confirms to me, what I have been perceiving as wind noise, is actually road noise. Has anyone else noticed this?

[Wires]

Originally Posted by ls3c6

Mine also whistles/sirens, 2016 340i msport 250 miles.

What is the resolution?

I have a whistle too, driver side only, sounds like the mirror (but not 100% sure). Only happens when I get over 110kph/65MPH.

Was a lot more prominent when the weather was hotter than now.

[cmplaya]

i have a 17 340 that whistles noticeably starting at around 45mph and up, sounds like it is coming from near the drivers side A pillar but hard to tell
the noise is definitely there, every time i get it up to that speed
I also drove a 16 340 for a year and did not have this issue at all at any speeds way faster than 45mph

Originally Posted by Wires

I have a whistle too, driver side only, sounds like the mirror (but not 100% sure). Only happens when I get over 110kph/65MPH.

Was a lot more prominent when the weather was hotter than now.