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      12-14-2014, 08:59 AM   #837
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I don't know how more simple to explain it then this. It is not the door seal. Wind is getting in up under the window sill on the outside. the edge of the window is not touching the back of the track so the wind goes around the back of the track and comes through the corner. If you watched the window when it is raining you will see a low-pressure zone all the way across the top of the window right back to where the gap in the seal is. There's a major low-pressure zone there in the noise you're hearing is the air being sucked out of the car up through the corner of the window. Here's a video of exactly what I'm talking about.

Put headphones on and listen to it see you can hear exactly what it sounds like in the side of your head while you're driving on the road. I drive 4000 miles a month and it's driving me crazy.

What are you doing to stop the noise each time? Are you pressing on the window, or using something to seal that area each time?
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      12-14-2014, 09:11 AM   #838
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It's a piece of 8-1/2x11 paper folded 4 times. Insert into the corner and it blocks the air path.

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      12-16-2014, 07:56 AM   #839
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Well
I have looked and sure enough I have this increasing gap as I go up the rubber seal with it being flush tight at the bottom and easily noticeable by eye (no paper test yet) at the top...

Mangler will be intigued to hear what your dealership do for you!
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      12-29-2014, 12:40 PM   #840
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I have looked and sure enough I have this increasing gap as I go up the rubber seal with it being flush tight at the bottom and easily noticeable by eye (no paper test yet) at the top...

Mangler will be intigued to hear what your dealership do for you!
you should all stop wasting your time fixing this issue
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      12-29-2014, 01:00 PM   #841
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you should all stop wasting your time fixing this issue
Hmmm ... how come no one thought of this solution before?
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      12-29-2014, 01:17 PM   #842
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Hmmm ... how come no one thought of this solution before?
I started this thread, explained the issue and how I went to dealer multiple times and drove multiple cars and arrived at the conclusion that this issue is an aerodynamic design issue...with the intent to say dont waste your time, you will not get anywhere... And of course it worked
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      12-29-2014, 04:51 PM   #843
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I started this thread, explained the issue and how I went to dealer multiple times and drove multiple cars and arrived at the conclusion that this issue is an aerodynamic design issue...with the intent to say dont waste your time, you will not get anywhere... And of course it worked
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Yup, I agree. That is my opinion as well, it is a waste of time. I had my fair share of trying to quiet down the F30, it's just not possible. I should have made a better choice.
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      12-30-2014, 06:26 AM   #844
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Weathertech Window deflectors

Anyone tried these?

http://www.weathertech.com/bmw/2014/...dystyle/sedan/
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Won't make a difference. It's a vacuum problem with the glass not sealing to the back of the track. If you have a smoke/vapor source just put it next to the corner of the window while driving. It will just suck it right out. Unless the glass gets sealed to the back of the track nothing will change. I am going to have the dealer shift the glass back so that it cuts off the ability for the air to pass out through the corner.



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Any update on this?

While surfacing the net, I found a diffuser that AWE Tuning made for the 911. Diverts air away from the window, reduces wind buffeting. Wonder if something like this would work on our cars?

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Now this is interesting, and I was once told by a Porsche owner that something like this was offered for a wind noise issue and it has helped. I'm not aware if there is such thing out there for f30. Thing is that the issue is not sever enough to matter to many drivers. As history of this thread shows, some folks have denied noticing the wind noise .
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Now this is interesting, and I was once told by a Porsche owner that something like this was offered for a wind noise issue and it has helped. I'm not aware if there is such thing out there for f30. Thing is that the issue is not sever enough to matter to many drivers. As history of this thread shows, some folks have denied noticing the wind noise .
Yes I truly don't have it.
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Yes I truly don't have it.


And this is why I can't accept it being down to aerodynamics.. Surely everyone would have it, albeit noticed to a different degree for each individual but for someone to say they DONT have it means they probably don't. This is why I'm swayed with interest to the points made about the seal on the window as mentioned by Mangler here;




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Guys its very simple. The rubber seal at the top corners of the driver and passenger doors has a gap under it when the windows are rolled up. If you put a folded up piece of paper in the interior corners while driving all of the "wind noise" that sounds like an open window is gone. I'll be going to the dealership to shown them and ask how they want to fix it.

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Ill try to get a pic for you today.

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Dealer called and car is ready to be picked up. We will see.

It is not an air buffeting problem. It is a vacuum problem with the air being sucked out through the corner of the window creating the 'open window' sound.

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I don't have that gap near the top of the window that you point out in the video. It's solid top to bottom. Maybe that's why the wind noise isn't loud on mine?
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I don't have that gap near the top of the window that you point out in the video. It's solid top to bottom. Maybe that's why the wind noise isn't loud on mine?
That's exactly why.

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I don't have that gap near the top of the window that you point out in the video. It's solid top to bottom. Maybe that's why the wind noise isn't loud on mine?
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That's exactly why.

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Dealer called and car is ready to be picked up. We will see.

It is not an air buffeting problem. It is a vacuum problem with the air being sucked out through the corner of the window creating the 'open window' sound.

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I am super interested in your judgement on whether yours has improved after this!

And then if you can get a description from the tech or paperwork on actual work carried out that would help with explanation to my dealer.
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i hear the wind noise too. But it's not an issue since i always play music or listen to the radio~
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They admit there is a major issue with this and they don't have an answer to fix it right now. I drove around with the head honcho and had him do the paper trick like in the video. He always had people come in and complain about it, but I am the first one to actually show how to correct it.

They did the SIB for the windshield pieces and that got rid of a ton of the wind buffeting noise around the windshield which made the other item even louder and easier to hear. He requested the video I took and said that he needs to send all his findings and information to the department that evaluates whether or not an SIB fix can be found.

I walked him through he dealer lot of all the new cars and half had the gap in the molding and the other half didn't. It does seem to correlate with the gloss shadowline trim more than the matte. from what we could tell the gloss end cap piece has more play in it than the matte piece that is creating the gap for the air leak.

I have to take my wifes X5 in for the vanos recall and will follow up at that time.

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