How many got their f30 below invoice?

Chad20 · 03-03-2014, 01:55 AM

Is it really possible to get a 2014 f30 500-2000$ below dealer invoice? If so the 328i could be in my range . Seeing the true market values on edmunds or true market the msrp is 5000$ over the market value.

falar · 03-03-2014, 01:57 AM

I got mine a few thousand under invoice.

Chad20 · 03-03-2014, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by falar

I got mine a few thousand under invoice.

That's great news !! Does BMW negotiate based on true market values ?

EJL · 03-03-2014, 04:53 AM

There a lot of incentives on these cars right now. Also, if you are a USAA member there's an extra incentive.

335BOY · 03-03-2014, 08:32 AM

You guys know that "invoice" isnt dealer cost right?

stevehecht · 03-03-2014, 08:34 AM

With incentives I got my 328d $2050 under invoice. All that (and more) went to mods and upgrades.

reedo302 · 03-03-2014, 10:14 AM

I got mine for well below invoice. I also had a USAA incentive, plus a finance incentive with BMW Financial which dropped another grand or $1500 off the price, along with a 3.19% rate. I started out with the online quote request to numerous dealerships, and then used the quotes to negotiate. Sort of a dealership Thunderdome.

fecurtis · 03-03-2014, 10:15 AM

I got mine for around $1000 below invoice due to negotiations and incentives.

64-bit · 03-03-2014, 10:27 AM

I got mine at EURO delivery INVOICE price -$1,750 incentives
1K BMW Finance rebate
750 BMW loyalty

3% APR interest rate.

Not a bad deal at the end :-)

Chad20 · 03-03-2014, 10:48 AM

Wow BMW is just pushing the sales sounds good to me !what are the incentives now? im hoping to be in a 328i before June production . Thanks for responses I don't know how id do it without this forum!

GSAL55 · 03-03-2014, 10:49 AM

Incentives depend on the month and typically you can get invoice and then get the option credit off from there ($500 this month) - so invoice less $500 would probably do the trick (like I messaged you).

chiefneil · 03-03-2014, 10:59 AM

I negotiated $600 over invoice, then applied about $1800 in incentives to end up $1200 below invoice.

simongym · 03-03-2014, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 335BOY

You guys know that "invoice" isnt dealer cost right?

Obviously no one expects to pay less for their new car than the dealer paid for it...

Although according to Top Gear you can actually pay less for a Lexus LFA than it costs Lexus to build it. Not great value though since it's extremely expensive and cars, with very few exceptions, are a depreciating asset.

falar · 03-03-2014, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 335BOY

You guys know that "invoice" isnt dealer cost right?

Of course. They wouldn't sell you a car to lose money. I've never heard of a dealer revealing what they actually get charged for a car though. The artificial "dealer invoice" is just a negotiating point.

m6pwr · 03-03-2014, 12:22 PM

Just be sure you're comparing apples to apples. The Edmunds quote you show is for a 2013 328, not a 2014. Even so I'm sure the other posts are about right.

335BOY · 03-03-2014, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by simongym

Obviously no one expects to pay less for their new car than the dealer paid for it...

Although according to Top Gear you can actually pay less for a Lexus LFA than it costs Lexus to build it. Not great value though since it's extremely expensive and cars, with very few exceptions, are a depreciating asset.

I'm sure lots of guys on here think they ARE paying less than dealers cost. If not then why wouldnt they use MSRP as the starting point.

Kafkaesque328 · 03-03-2014, 12:36 PM

I got mine 4500 off msrp which is below invoice I believe

fecurtis · 03-03-2014, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by simongym

Although according to Top Gear you can actually pay less for a Lexus LFA than it costs Lexus to build it. Not great value though since it's extremely expensive and cars, with very few exceptions, are a depreciating asset.

Yeah Lexus lost money on every LFA it sold. That's what happens when you spend 10+ years developing a car.

bavarianride · 03-03-2014, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 335BOY

You guys know that "invoice" isnt dealer cost right?

The published factory invoice numbers plus MACO and training are usually considered as dealer costs, which can be offset by dealer's quota bonuses(from manufacturer). The best deals so far seem to be factory invoice minus incentives(BMWFS, option credits, build out cash, UDE/TeamUSA, etc, etc), although the norm seems to be dealer invoice+$500 and minus all incentives.

335BOY · 03-03-2014, 01:29 PM

All I was getting at is some guys think they are getting cars for less than dealers cost.

335BOY · 03-03-2014, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kafkaesque320

I got mine 4500 off msrp which is below invoice I believe

Thats huge for 320 i would think. Nice work.
I got my 335 in Dec/Jan (clearout time) and got about $8000 off list....ridiculous. Zero negotiating, the guy just barked it out. Thats how they got me....that and the red interior. Wish Audi would do that at the end of the year.

bavarianride · 03-03-2014, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 335BOY

All I was getting at is some guys think they are getting cars for less than dealers cost.

Yes, BMWNA and dealers are in the business of making money, even with the incentives and such it is doubtful that anyone(including BMWNA) is losing money on any deal.

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reedo302 Estorilblau Member 27 Rep 252 Posts Drives: Dinan Estoril 328i M Sport Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Minneapolis, MN iTrader: (0)	I got mine for well below invoice. I also had a USAA incentive, plus a finance incentive with BMW Financial which dropped another grand or $1500 off the price, along with a 3.19% rate. I started out with the online quote request to numerous dealerships, and then used the quotes to negotiate. Sort of a dealership Thunderdome.
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m6pwr First Lieutenant 38 Rep 374 Posts Drives: '14 335i M sport Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (0)	Just be sure you're comparing apples to apples. The Edmunds quote you show is for a 2013 328, not a 2014. Even so I'm sure the other posts are about right. __________________ '14 328d, '13 M3 ZCP, '12 535i, '11 335d, '09 Z4 DINAN Stage II, '05 330i ZHP, '05 M3 ZCP, '02 M3, '91 328i, '90 535i, '88 528e, '88 M5, '87 M6, '95 Z3, 95 M3, '93 M5, '87 325e, '89 535i, '86 635i, '73 Bavaria.
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