[Q4P]

Originally Posted by WW330

Red stitching in the black seats doesn't bother me, but the only non black options are red and grey for the sportline, that really irritates me. 3 series offered a great combination of luxury and sport, but now they are being separated. And the options pricing is absolutely ridiculous.

That is the only thing that really bothers me...

Why can't I have dark wood in a 3 with sport line?

Or is it possible to get the M suspension in a non sport line?

[PostModernHero]

A bunch of BS I tell you!!

SO glad I didn't wait for the F31 and already have my 2011 E91, confingered exactly how I wanted it and with an inline six. I will be running mine into the ground thank you very much...

[Shuttlegoose]

i just build mine and its coming to just under 46k. Im really really really upset about it. I know its a wonderful car and everything but give me a break with these option problems. I want what i want. Add on another 3k in taxes and its a 50k car just like that for stuff that comes standard on other cars.

[MCMLXXXIX]

Originally Posted by WW330

Red stitching in the black seats doesn't bother me, but the only non black options are red and grey for the sportline, that really irritates me. 3 series offered a great combination of luxury and sport, but now they are being separated. And the options pricing is absolutely ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Questforpower

That is the only thing that really bothers me...

Why can't I have dark wood in a 3 with sport line?

Or is it possible to get the M suspension in a non sport line?

this^

and it doesnt look like a sports suspension is available for the non-sport lines

so dumb. seriously, how is this better? id be fine with it if we werent forced into a tacky interior

[Silver3s]

Originally Posted by 7or8

You can choose black highlights for the dash instead of red. But the red seat piping can't be switched out

True, but only with the Brushed Aluminum...which I prefer the gloss black. Ideally, I would take the gloss black with the aluminum accent like on the modern.

[WWM3]

Originally Posted by MCMLXXXIX

this^

and it doesnt look like a sports suspension is available for the non-sport lines

so dumb. seriously, how is this better? id be fine with it if we werent forced into a tacky interior

I agree. I feel like the most non tacky interior IMO is the grey leather w/ aluminum trim w/ black piping. But I'm not sure how I feel about the grey..Would it add that much to BMW's bottom line to offer wood trim, brown leather and a sports suspension?

[Q4P]

Originally Posted by MCMLXXXIX

this^

and it doesnt look like a sports suspension is available for the non-sport lines

so dumb. seriously, how is this better? id be fine with it if we werent forced into a tacky interior

To be honest I like the black gloss and I wanted it here in the US for a long time but the red interior lines that come with that option are tacky as hell. The only option not to get those stupid red / blue lines is to get the aluminum and I've never liked that.

[berlinguyinca]

seeing these prices makes me really reconsider buying a 28i Z4. I'm sorry but some of the option prices is just ridiculous and I don't want all the stuff.

And the 'cockpit' just looks really busy and I prefer a simpler and less 'toy' approach. Since the less you have, the less can break. And I was punished enough by electronically gremlins in my past cars...

Also to need to get ZPP for dimming mirrors or CA, is just silly. Just give as an overview of all the options and we can tick the boxes we want and provide packages with some things combined for cheaper. So that everybody is happy.

You might even give us boxes to take stuff out of the car like:

'I don't want power seats in a 335i, it's going to be a track car someday or so...'

I mean a 3 series loaded pushing 50k$ for stuff you don't really need or will break all the time. Like 5-6 cameras, I'm waiting for the dreaded 'camera malfunction message'

Anyway, sorry that my first post is kind of a rand and thankfully still have 14 months time till I have to decide what to buy (2013 summer ed) and for them to fix things.

And I want a 328 with dual pipes... I love the look...

[pcbrew]

Originally Posted by Questforpower

That is the only thing that really bothers me...

Why can't I have dark wood in a 3 with sport line?

Or is it possible to get the M suspension in a non sport line?

M-Sport has dark wood option.

[Zirenz2006]

These lines are really constricting. I really like the modern line exterior bits and I love the turbine wheels but I could never live with that dark oyster dash and wheel. If I go sport, I would only get black leather, but then I'm stuck with the red stitching.

[WWM3]

Originally Posted by pcbrew

M-Sport has dark wood option.

Good point. And I believe it has a beige leather option as well. That might be worth waiting for.

[Q4P]

Originally Posted by pcbrew

M-Sport has dark wood option.

That's true... but the M sport package also has an incredibly hideous steering wheel that I couldn't live with.

Also the price differential may not be worth it solely for a wood trim.

[SamS]

Originally Posted by Shuttlegoose

Add on another 3k in taxes and its a 50k car just like that for stuff that comes standard on other cars.

What other $50K car drives like (i.e RWD), and looks nicer than a 3-series?

There is an obvious reason why a loaded Honda Accord is $30K and a 328i is close to $50K. Just drive them back to back.

And I'm not being snobbish, I own and Accord, too

[Zirenz2006]

Originally Posted by SamS

What other $50K car drives like (i.e RWD), and looks nicer than a 3-series?

There is an obvious reason why a loaded Honda Accord is $30K and a 328i is close to $50K. Just drive them back to back.

And I'm not being snobbish, I own and Accord, too

^ This

Got to pay to play. If you just want a bunch of options and tech and don't care too much about the ride there are much less expensive cars to be had.

[justinnum1]

Originally Posted by SamS

What other $50K car drives like (i.e RWD), and looks nicer than a 3-series?

There is an obvious reason why a loaded Honda Accord is $30K and a 328i is close to $50K. Just drive them back to back.

And I'm not being snobbish, I own and Accord, too

[scott135i]

Parking package doesn't include parking assistant.

FAIL.

[Silver3s]

Basically, the Luxury & modern lines just require you to pay $3300 for opportunity to pick more interior options...while $1700 for Sport gives you limited interior choices, sport suspension, with option to buy M suspension & sport automatic w paddles for more money.

F30 335i $42,400 Base
7 - Ext Colors
2 - Leather Options
Black Dakota
Beige Dakota
2 - Leatherette Options
Black Leatherette
Beige Leatherette
Burled Walnut- Silver accent trim
Auto or Manual Trans
Options available

Add $3,300 Luxury & Premium (required)
1 - unique 18" wheel 416
3 - Leather Options
Saddle Dakota w Stitching
Beige Dakota w Stitching
Black Dakota w Stitching
2 - Trim options
Anthracite Wood - Silver accent
Burled Walnut - Silver accent

Add $3,300 Modern & Premium (required)
1 - unique 18" wheel 415
2 - Leather Options
Oyster Dakota w Dark accent
Black with Dark Oyster
3 - Trim options
Pearl - Silver accent
Brushed Aluminum - Silver accent
Fineline "Textured" wood - Silver accent

Add $1,700 Sport (Premium optional)
1 - unique 18" wheel 397
3 - Leather Options
Black Dakota w Red Highlight
Gray Dakota w Black Highlight
Coral w Black Highlight
1 - Leatherette Options
Black Leatherette w Red Highlight
3 - Trim options
High-Gloss Black - Coral Red accent
Brushed Aluminum - Coral Red accent
Brushed Aluminum - Gloss Black accent
$500 Sport 8-spd Auto w Paddles

Other Packages
$1,900 Premium Pkg
$1,350 Cold Weather
$1,100 Drive Assistance
$1,550 Parking
$950 Premium Sound
$2,550 Technology

[WULFFZA]

Originally Posted by Zirenz2006

^ This

Got to pay to play. If you just want a bunch of options and tech and don't care too much about the ride there are much less expensive cars to be had.

You know what drives better than a 328i for $50k?
A 2008 M5 for $50k.


This configurator has been annoying me for a while, not just bugs in the F30 which is acceptable on day 1, but various option selections in all lines come back with no image or options have disappeared, like a manual 535i rwd.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by WULFFZA

You know what drives better than a 328i for $50k?
A 2008 M5 for $50k.

Ick, the world's worst single clutch flappy paddle or a handicapped manual in a 600 pound heavier car? No thanks. V10 is great, making it move forward is painful. Of course out of warranty repairs on a dry sump V10 would quickly separate the true cost to own of these cars too.

[Zirenz2006]

Originally Posted by Powderfan

Sport line doesn't include sport tranny or paddle shifters. WUT?!

And to the person who tries to compare this to an Accord. There's plenty of cars that have either the fun factor or the luxury or both for less, including cars from other German Luxury brands.

BMW messed up with the pricing on this vehicle. When you can get a loaded 5 series for only a few thousand more than a 3 series you've completely destroyed your vehicle pricing tiers. The 3 series is supposed to be an entry level luxury car, just like an A4, IS, C class, etc. Instead it's priced like a mid-sized luxury sedan IE: A6, ES, etc.

I was so excited for this car, but unless slightly used ones end up on dealer lots magically going for 15-20K below retail, I'm looking elsewhere.

The 3 series isn't entry level anymore for BMW, the 1 series is.

[Red Bread]

Pricing seems fine and comparable to E90. Sportline 328i with Premium, Cold Weather and Xenon's for $44,145. Pricing remains very similar to MB and Audi, I guess I don't see the issue. Still waiting for final F31 and M Sport pricing, but I'm pretty happy with pricing.

I have no interest in the 7 series derived and much heavier 5er, plus the 528i not being available with a manual means it's not really comparable to a 328i for me, and the 535i wouldn't be much quicker than a 328i, and it certainly isn't comparable in price.

[sekitori]

Originally Posted by eric145472

What was BMW thinking when they allowed this....

I thought I might be interested in the Modern line, but after seeing photos of the interior, I've changed my mind. An all oyster interior looks perfectly okay. So does an all black interior. But I think that mixing the two together looks ridiculous. Instead, I'm now looking at the Luxury line or the base F30. When you order a black interior on either of them, that's what you get--not a two tone monstrosity.

The great Hollywood mogul Samuel Goldwyn was famous for using phrases that seemed to make no sense and were laughable. But even though they sounded absurd, they often really did make sense. After seeing the Modern interior, I repeat one of those phrases--"include me out".