[mrclam]

2015 328i
Xenons
M-sport
Premium package
Heated seats
HK

46,435 MSRP
64% residual
0.00085 MF

36 mo/10k
4150 due at signing (3150 for the MSDs, 1k drive off)
7 MSDs (3150)

420/mo

[RAK92]

I just joined this forum. Tons of great info on this site! I'm never going to get any work done!

I'm looking forward to my first BMW that I purchased through the BMW military purchase program. Great savings for deployed military members. The car is shipped from the manufacturer to the dealer without any dealer fees (just the standard $995 ship fee).

I won't take delivery until mid April 2016, but that's only because I wanted to avoid one bad season of weather in the Hampton Roads area.

2016 BMW 435i Coupe M Sport (Estoril Blue)

Tech Package
Cold Weather Package
Driver Assistance Package
Adaptive M Sport Suspension
19-in wheels (442M)

Total cost $53,745 (tax will be extra for tags in VA)

MSRP listed as $59,095

[TophrHwk]

Originally Posted by 88stlgrym3

if i go with the reduced residual because of the high mileage lease, do i also have to pay for the extra miles? seems like i'd be playing double here. thanks for the reply by the way

Yes, you'd want to take the highest amount of miles available for the lease - 15K and then you'd pay for anything over 45,000 miles prior to turn in at $0.16/mi. If you wait until turn-in, it's $0.20/mi. If you drive a lot, leasing may not be for you.

[TophrHwk]

Originally Posted by Leo168

As per NADA, the invoice price for this car is 54070. So yes, the discount is 9.5%.

I used up my energy to get 1000 more out of my trade-in which dropped my monthly by $30 as opposed to getting the base rate which would have dropped the monthly by $10. Not that $10 doesn't matter, but I was ready to walk out and this was the best the dealer could offer. So I took it.

You got a good deal on a 2016. If you didn't, always get all your numbers finalized in writing and then mention the trade-in. . When you start driving the car, you'll forget about the $10/month. . Enjoy!

[TophrHwk]

Originally Posted by RAK92

I just joined this forum. Tons of great info on this site! I'm never going to get any work done!

I'm looking forward to my first BMW that I purchased through the BMW military purchase program. Great savings for deployed military members. The car is shipped from the manufacturer to the dealer without any dealer fees (just the standard $995 ship fee).

I won't take delivery until mid April 2016, but that's only because I wanted to avoid one bad season of weather in the Hampton Roads area.

2016 BMW 435i Coupe M Sport (Estoril Blue)

Tech Package
Cold Weather Package
Driver Assistance Package
Adaptive M Sport Suspension
19-in wheels (442M)

Total cost $53,745 (tax will be extra for tags in VA)

MSRP listed as $59,095

Welcome and congratulations! for your service!

[TophrHwk]

Originally Posted by mrclam

2015 328i
Xenons
M-sport
Premium package
Heated seats
HK

46,435 MSRP
64% residual
0.00085 MF

36 mo/10k
4150 due at signing (3150 for the MSDs, 1k drive off)
7 MSDs (3150)

420/mo

What was your purchase price? $41,xxx?

[mrclam]

Originally Posted by TophrHwk

What was your purchase price? $41,xxx?

yep, forgot the exact number but it was about 41,500. our sales guy offered this and we nearly took it (i thought i was going to take this deal), but we changed our minds last minute and ended up taking this car instead:

328i
M Sport
Driver assistance package
Premium package
Technology package
M Sport brakes
Sport auto tranny
Heated front seats
HK sound
Black kidneys

MSRP 51.8k

We walked out with it at 44.9k.

64% residual
36 months/10k per year
4400 down (3150 security deposit, 1250 drive off)
.00085 MF
450/mo after taxes

[Frankrizzz]

Mineral White
Coral Red
Sport Package
Cold Weather
Drivers Assistance
Tech Package
10,000Miles/month
Dealer knocked $5,300 off the price, original price $54,295
$1,000 down for $669/month
$3,000 down for $578/month

What are your thoughts?

[Buzzo]

Originally Posted by Frankrizzz

Mineral White
Coral Red
Sport Package
Cold Weather
Drivers Assistance
Tech Package
10,000Miles/month
Dealer knocked $5,300 off the price, original price $54,295
$1,000 down for $669/month
$3,000 down for $578/month

What are your thoughts?

My first thought is that a 340xi with these options should sticker for a lot more than $54,295, or is that the selling price they offer? That said, the elephant in the room is the Money Factor.

I am going to guess that you're looking at a selling price of $54,295 for a $59,595 build with a money factor of .00174. Selling price is excellent, but wiped by the spiked MF. Top tier MF is .00134 which is about $1.3K less over 36 months.
On the whole could still be decent as you're about $400 under invoice (with the $750 Option Credit included) so all-in-all about $900 over invoice. Is the doc/dealer fee included in the selling price?

Reducing cap cost with down payment is not a great idea as you could use MSDs instead. However, I don't think NY allows MSDs so you might want to inquire with a dealer in NJ as well.

[Frankrizzz]

I really appreciate your insight. Yes the selling price is 54,295, you are correct. So assuming I'm able to obtain a great mf u suggest I go the route of msds. Any idea what I would be looking at monthly?

[Buzzo]

Originally Posted by Frankrizzz

I really appreciate your insight. Yes the selling price is 54,295, you are correct. So assuming I'm able to obtain a great mf u suggest I go the route of msds. Any idea what I would be looking at monthly?

That is hard to say not knowing what kind of fees are involved and what is and isn't rolled into the monthly payment.
Max MSD's of 7 brings down the MF by .00049 and will save you almost $1,7K over 36 months.
If your selling price doesn't include other incentives besides the Option Credit, you might find it hard to negotiate a better MF as they are using it to off-set the low selling price.
Download and plug numbers into this spreadsheet: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=830104

[TophrHwk]

Originally Posted by mrclam

yep, forgot the exact number but it was about 41,500. our sales guy offered this and we nearly took it (i thought i was going to take this deal), but we changed our minds last minute and ended up taking this car instead:

328i
M Sport
Driver assistance package
Premium package
Technology package
M Sport brakes
Sport auto tranny
Heated front seats
HK sound
Black kidneys

MSRP 51.8k

We walked out with it at 44.1k.

64% residual
36 months/10k per year
4400 down (3150 security deposit, 1250 drive off)
.00085 MF
450/mo after taxes

Nicely done. Quite a few more goodies for not a whole lot more money.

[kasarap]

Originally Posted by cardsdoc

I'm not sure if this is for real or not. If it is, you are being taken on just about every aspect of the lease. Run Forest, run!! You should be able to get close to invoice if not invoice before any rebates. Never put money down except maybe taxes. I can't even figure out how much the MF and residual have been manipulated to arrive at lease payments like that. With no money down you should be able to get lease payments in low to mid 700s.

Just talked to them again mf is .0014 and residual is 55%.

Year/Model: 2016 435i xDrive
MSRP: $61,545
Options/Packages: cold weather, m-sport, driver assistant and plus, navigation
Cash Down: $11,000
Negotiated Price: $60,545
Lease term/Miles: 15,000/36 months
Lease Payment: $689

[mrclam]

Originally Posted by TophrHwk

Nicely done. Quite a few more goodies for not a whole lot more money.

thanks! I really wanted xenons, but I also really wanted the tech package and driver assistance package (my wife will be driving this car too). I figure I'll retrofit the xenons on at some point.

[Mr_M5Guy]

Originally Posted by mrclam

yep, forgot the exact number but it was about 41,500. our sales guy offered this and we nearly took it (i thought i was going to take this deal), but we changed our minds last minute and ended up taking this car instead:

328i
M Sport
Driver assistance package
Premium package
Technology package
M Sport brakes
Sport auto tranny
Heated front seats
HK sound
Black kidneys

MSRP 51.8k

We walked out with it at 44.1k.

64% residual
36 months/10k per year
4400 down (3150 security deposit, 1250 drive off)
.00085 MF
450/mo after taxes

Something seems off......what is your tax, i calculated it at 9%. Seems like your payment should have been right at $400/month

RIDE with G
AUTO LEASE CALCULATOR
REQUIRED


51800
MSRP

44100
Sale Price

Fees Rolled In

36
Term (in months)

64
% Residual

.00084
Money Factor

9
% Sales Tax

10000
Miles Per Year

Calculate Payments

DETAILS


14.86486486486487
% off MSRP

2.016
% Interest Rate

44100
Adj Cap Cost

33152
Purchase Option

304.1111111111111
Depreciation

64.89168000000001
Rent Charge

2336.10048
Total Rent Charge

PAYMENTS


369.0027911111111
Base Payment

402.2130423111111
Base + Tax

402.2130423111111
Base + Tax + Fees

[mrclam]

Originally Posted by Mr_M5Guy

Something seems off......what is your tax, i calculated it at 9%. Seems like your payment should have been right at $400/month

RIDE with G
AUTO LEASE CALCULATOR
REQUIRED


51800
MSRP

44100
Sale Price

Fees Rolled In

36
Term (in months)

64
% Residual

.00084
Money Factor

9
% Sales Tax

10000
Miles Per Year

Calculate Payments

DETAILS


14.86486486486487
% off MSRP

2.016
% Interest Rate

44100
Adj Cap Cost

33152
Purchase Option

304.1111111111111
Depreciation

64.89168000000001
Rent Charge

2336.10048
Total Rent Charge

PAYMENTS


369.0027911111111
Base Payment

402.2130423111111
Base + Tax

402.2130423111111
Base + Tax + Fees

Ah, you're right, I just looked at my paperwork again. I was looking at the net capitalized cost, not the sale price, which was actually 44,925. I'll edit the original to correct the error.

[ciantosca]

About to order this loaded so here is the deal:

2016 328iX wagon Estoril Blue w/ Oyster dakota
M Sport
Cold weather
Driver assistance package & plus
Lighting package
Premium package
Technology package
Track handling package
H/K
Rear sunshades


MSRP 60,270
Selling at 56,000

Lease deal:
62% residual. .0014 MF
36 months/10k per year
2,200 driveoff
$ 689/mo after taxes

Feel good about this pricing. Negotiated with 3 dealers over two weeks in Boston area. Thanks for any feedback.

Plan to install Dinantronics at delivery!

[TophrHwk]

Originally Posted by kasarap

Just talked to them again mf is .0014 and residual is 55%.

Year/Model: 2016 435i xDrive
MSRP: $61,545
Options/Packages: cold weather, m-sport, driver assistant and plus, navigation
Cash Down: $11,000
Negotiated Price: $60,545
Lease term/Miles: 15,000/36 months
Lease Payment: $689

No offense, but you can do way better. You're only $1,000 off MSRP. Also, I'd double-check that residual as I believe September was 56%. It's possible it went down, though. Someone on here has probably posted the October residuals - search. You can also find them on the Edmunds forums under BMW leasing, but you'll need to search a bit as their forum layout is less than user friendly. Your MF is being marked up, as well. Lastly, as others have told you previously, never put money down on a lease. If I were you, I'd start over with another dealer as this one appears to have seen you coming from quite a distance.

[GreatAvalon]

Originally Posted by RAK92

I just joined this forum. Tons of great info on this site! I'm never going to get any work done!

I'm looking forward to my first BMW that I purchased through the BMW military purchase program. Great savings for deployed military members. The car is shipped from the manufacturer to the dealer without any dealer fees (just the standard $995 ship fee).

I won't take delivery until mid April 2016, but that's only because I wanted to avoid one bad season of weather in the Hampton Roads area.

2016 BMW 435i Coupe M Sport (Estoril Blue)

Tech Package
Cold Weather Package
Driver Assistance Package
Adaptive M Sport Suspension
19-in wheels (442M)

Total cost $53,745 (tax will be extra for tags in VA)

MSRP listed as $59,095

Because in VA we have to pay the car sales tax on the purchase price of the vehicle (so $53,745 for you), are you going to pay it up front or are you going to roll it in? Sucks because its like $2k+

[TophrHwk]

Originally Posted by ciantosca

About to order this loaded so here is the deal:

2016 328iX wagon Estoril Blue w/ Oyster dakota
M Sport
Cold weather
Driver assistance package & plus
Lighting package
Premium package
Technology package
Track handling package
H/K
Rear sunshades


MSRP 60,270
Selling at 56,000

Lease deal:
62% residual. .0014 MF
36 months/10k per year
2,200 driveoff
$ 689/mo after taxes

Feel good about this pricing. Negotiated with 3 dealers over two weeks in Boston area. Thanks for any feedback.

Plan to install Dinantronics at delivery!

Have you calculated invoice pricing using Edmunds or NADA? On the 3-series, there's approximately 9% margin on the vehicle. You appear to be at 7%, so there's still some wiggle room for negotiation. What's included in the $2200 drive off? Also, your MF is being marked up - base is .00134. Keep at it!

[justa3bmw]

2016 435 xi coupe @12k miles

Lease deal rate?

Estoril Blue
Tech package
Cold weather package
Drive assist. package
Black leather
Msport package

MSRP: 60145
Selling: 57000

$4700 in MSD.
$3400 in upfront taxes

Monthly $649

[TophrHwk]

Originally Posted by justa3bmw

2016 435 xi coupe @12k miles

Lease deal rate?

Estoril Blue
Tech package
Cold weather package
Drive assist. package
Black leather
Msport package

MSRP: 60145
Selling: 57000

$4700 in MSD.
$3400 in upfront taxes

Monthly $649

What's invoice for your vehicle as spec'd? You're approximately 5% off MSRP, so I think there's more room for negotiation. What's the money factor? What else is getting rolled into the lease?