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I totally agree on the rest Nice car record btw
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11-22-2012, 05:02 PM | #200 |
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Yeah you're probably right, but I can be a real ass when I need to be. Being in business for yourself you learn real quick that if you're too nice of a guy you won't survive long. We hit the 35 yr mark last year & I can only hope we continue on with another 35. But the way this economy is , its a little scary out there. So if I tell you that you're a real dick next time I reply,,,just remember ,you asked for it
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11-22-2012, 06:40 PM | #202 |
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Mostly it's one guy saying "all you 328i drivers keep throwing hate at the 335i", and the rest of us saying "wut?"
Except for power, they're very close. The main shite-disturber has left the building. As for the dirty look, maybe the other driver thought you were razzing him when you gave him the thumbs up? Who knows. I find it difficult sometimes to relate to the humans. |
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11-23-2012, 03:38 AM | #203 | |
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11-23-2012, 04:02 AM | #204 | |
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And I'm far from "defending" myself, as I have no reason to. Someone asked a question and wanted to be shown evidence of 335i negative comments, and thus I supplied some that can be taken that way. Last edited by RPM90; 11-23-2012 at 04:28 AM.. |
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11-23-2012, 04:18 AM | #205 | |
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Fair enough, maybe Iīve misinterpreted what you insinuated.
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11-23-2012, 04:18 AM | #206 | |
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So please, don't make it seem as if I'm so angry and "blowing this out of proportion" as clearly I am not. You asked for some example and I gave you some. Now, if you don't like the answers, then don't ask the question. What I posted you were looking for, and all those things are there, I didn't make them up. As I said, you may not see them as negative, but I didn't think you would, which is why you asked your question in the first place. The post about the 335i and questioning it's performance is but another way by which to question the 335i, and in the context of what this whole thread is about it is directly related towards being negative towards the 335i. I don't engage in 328i bashing. I'm pretty level headed in that regard as I see everyone here as being a 3 series fan, though not for the same reasons, and not a 328i fan vs 335i fan, a lux line fan vs sport line fan. I'm calling it as I see it. |
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11-23-2012, 06:52 AM | #207 | |
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anyways, i wont bother carrying this response on with the exception that i do want to say that my comment about blowing it out of proportion was referencing your use of the word "hate". a few comments here and there from a troll (BJ) and a few others who do not justify the performance of the 335i is not "hating" in my opinion. that's all i was saying, it wasn't intended to say you were angry or how ever else you took that. Ive been reading a lot responses lately on this forum about people thinking others are hating because they have a 3 series, 335i, M-Sport, nice wheels, blue brakes, etc. Some people must be really impressed with themselves. |
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11-23-2012, 08:52 AM | #208 |
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I'm pretty sure the 335i is actually aimed at the BMW purist. It's closer to the 330d than the 328i in terms of general performance so that should be the comparison to make.
And both the 335i and 330d (for the first time ever I think) appeal to the same person. Someone who wants a fast BMW but is determined to hang on to 6 cylinders! For me I went 330d for company car tax reasons. But if private I would probably have justified the 335i, I still prefer the reviness of petrol - although the 330d really does rev as well as most would ever make use of. And neither car features any turbo lag that's worth mentioning - effectively none at all. The 328i was never a comparable car for me. It sounds and feels like a small engine being forced in to doing things it just doesn't want to do. And whilst not exactly laggy, there is a brief low RPM lack of torque, that you would be crazy not to expect from a 4 pot. That's the reason for the 335i. 4 pot turbo engines make sense, but for many of us we need the smoothness and easy torque of the extra two cylinders. |
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11-23-2012, 09:08 AM | #209 |
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Facsinating read, this. I'm not one to be impressed by brands, and I never care to be seen or noticed - I just happen to be addicted to quality and spend my dollars accordingly. In fact, the only brand I have any negative leanings towards is BMW, as evidenced by some of the textbook SDS (short-dick-syndrome) and "I live in my parents' basement" attitudes on display in this thread.
Thankfully for you, reader, I have arrived to set you free from the sadness of the few feeble minds (you know who you are, you turds of misery) who have taken it upon themselves to fan their flames of mediocrity. I can say this because, despite my overall disdain for the BMW brand, I have purchased an F30. And, I set about to do so with a completely open mind, so I hope you can take what I have to say with the notion that I had some element of impartiality. I test-drove the competition (all of it, barring the ATS). Then, I drove a 328 and my mind was made up - this was a fantastic vehicle, and I was going to have it. In fact, I loved the aspect of a sophisticated, blown four pot - this, friends, is the future. And then I decided to drive a 335 just for the hell of it. Now, from the perspective of your humble narrarator, the difference was huge - I would say there was a cavernous void in terms of "feel". So I purchased a 335i M-Sport, and am now awaiting delivery. So, who is it marketed towards? A young man, recently married, two small-mid sized dogs, no kids yet, an automotive enthusiast who believes in quality and utmost discretion, who has an appreciation for excellence and sublime experiences, and who does not compromise on personal pleasures. Most importantly, though, one who does not care what anyone else thinks - you have a 320, 328, 335, M3, whatever? Good for you, then; I just hope you're happy. |
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11-23-2012, 10:39 AM | #210 | |
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The thread asked who the 335i was aimed at, and you have just answered. It's aimed at the shrinking minority of people that can still tell and appreciate the difference between 4 and 6 |
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11-23-2012, 10:40 AM | #211 |
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I have to admit I've only been signing on recently to check this thread out. Its amazing. Lol.
There are some posts claiming the 328i is under rated in its stated hp/tq figures. Is this true with 335s as well? Is this done so 335 owners wouldnt be thinking omg wtfff? 335 - more power sounds nice 328 - less power sounds shitty (i have one and want to leave it stock but seriously considering exhaust options just for the sound it lacks) Both - drive and handle extremely well. Now lets all go drive on closed circuits before we think our cars make us fast. Seriously. More power does not equal moar fast and moar enthusiast. 328/335 is great but im looking to get into the new m3 or m2. |
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11-23-2012, 10:51 AM | #212 | |
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It's a technical marvel, a very good engine of course. But I don't think a heavily blown 4 pot is ever going to be a noise I would want to amplify... Save the money and go for the M3. Or swap for a 330d even... Amazingly for a diesel it actually does sound better at higher revs than the 328. How things change. |
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11-23-2012, 11:03 AM | #213 | |
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Not a big deal - there are different sensitivities for different people; some of them not logical at all. For example, I went with the M-Sport because I really loved the steering wheel (well, I also wanted the M-Sport brakes and adaptive suspension which require the package in Canada)... but, that was the main consideration (I found out later you can simply just add it as a special order for $400). Another example: I would have seriously considered the ATS, but the gauge cluster is so absurdly hideous in its design, that I wrote off the car completely... just because of that. Otherwise, I'm sure it's a fine automobile - but f*ck me running, there's no way I'm going to sit behind the wheel and stare at that gauge cluster for the next x years... no way. |
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The development catback installed on my car did not just increase volume but also the note/pitch.
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But that m2 better come out - hopefully more closer to the size of the e30. I WANT ONE NOW. |
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11-24-2012, 08:59 AM | #216 | |
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And we're talking about what sounds good, not what sounds different. Subjective of course but side by side, I believe pretty much anyone would choose to listen to the 6 over the 4. |
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11-24-2012, 09:35 AM | #217 | |
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"Problem is that the exhaust will make it sound louder, not better" Sorry, but incorrect. I am not referencing what I think, what I heard on some sound clips...this comes from putting miles on the prototype exhaust for the N20. There is quite a bit of sound tuning that can be done from a proper exhaust. It was not like there was just some diameter increase and we called it a day(in fact the stock diameter is already 3").
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11-25-2012, 06:22 AM | #218 |
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When i want to listen to that 6 i take my ladys 135i on the freeway rev it high and drive like an asshole especially on bends.
Now only if i can persuade her to let me take it to just an autocross day. Maybe buy "her" a track setup as a gift (to myself)? Lol |
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