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      02-13-2018, 12:37 AM   #1
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FMIC Upgrade: School Me

Currently have an F30 328i xDrive with Dinantronics Sport Tune and M Performance Exhaust and was looking into some more bolt-ons. I've been reading about FMIC upgrades, and am strongly considering the VRSF FMIC 5" Stepped Street Core. So, I know the benefits are there, but I wanted to know if there are any downsides. Is there any downside to switching from the stock Tube+Fin design to the VRSF Bar+Plate Design? I am speaking mainly in terms of reliability. Also, how difficult will the install be? Is it as simple as removing the old intercooler and putting in the new one, no other new parts required? Anyone who knows or has done the FMIC upgrade, please let me know. Please and Thankyou!
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Currently have an F30 328i xDrive with Dinantronics Sport Tune and M Performance Exhaust and was looking into some more bolt-ons. I've been reading about FMIC upgrades, and am strongly considering the VRSF FMIC 5" Stepped Street Core. So, I know the benefits are there, but I wanted to know if there are any downsides. Is there any downside to switching from the stock Tube+Fin design to the VRSF Bar+Plate Design? I am speaking mainly in terms of reliability. Also, how difficult will the install be? Is it as simple as removing the old intercooler and putting in the new one, no other new parts required? Anyone who knows or has done the FMIC upgrade, please let me know. Please and Thankyou!
Generally gotta take out the front bumper to install. The FMICs usually slide back on the rails so it's really straight forward. I got an ER one so a few parts didn't fit back on since it was so large. Think you'll be in a better position than i was. No new parts needed.

The VRSF is designed for the road so you probably won't notice much difference between tube/fin vs bar/plate. But as a FYI, generally tube/fin heat soak faster but cool faster than bar/plate. But design of the FMIC has a higher influence than just the type it is.
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Currently have an F30 328i xDrive with Dinantronics Sport Tune and M Performance Exhaust and was looking into some more bolt-ons. I've been reading about FMIC upgrades, and am strongly considering the VRSF FMIC 5" Stepped Street Core. So, I know the benefits are there, but I wanted to know if there are any downsides. Is there any downside to switching from the stock Tube+Fin design to the VRSF Bar+Plate Design? I am speaking mainly in terms of reliability. Also, how difficult will the install be? Is it as simple as removing the old intercooler and putting in the new one, no other new parts required? Anyone who knows or has done the FMIC upgrade, please let me know. Please and Thankyou!
So I ordered the exact one you are looking at for your 328i. It should be here this week. Ill let you know about the install and any info I may get from the test drive afterward.
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So I ordered the exact one you are looking at for your 328i. It should be here this week. Ill let you know about the install and any info I may get from the test drive afterward.
awesome, can't wait to hear what you have to say about it, please do update. out of curiosity, what other brands did you consider and what led you to the 5" VRSF?
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Generally gotta take out the front bumper to install. The FMICs usually slide back on the rails so it's really straight forward. I got an ER one so a few parts didn't fit back on since it was so large. Think you'll be in a better position than i was. No new parts needed.

The VRSF is designed for the road so you probably won't notice much difference between tube/fin vs bar/plate. But as a FYI, generally tube/fin heat soak faster but cool faster than bar/plate. But design of the FMIC has a higher influence than just the type it is.
I read that for my application, which will never be running more than +4 psi over stock boost on the stock turbo, a street intercooler would be the best option and that I wouln't need an HD, super-intercooler to see results. I'm not expecting huge 30hp gains, but I would hope to notice a mild increase in butt dyno from the install.
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awesome, can't wait to hear what you have to say about it, please do update. out of curiosity, what other brands did you consider and what led you to the 5" VRSF?
I looked and several different ones. I had narrowed it down to the CSF and the VRSF FMIC's. I chose this one after reading some good reviews and overall cost. I also was able to buy it as a combo with the VRSF catless downpipe from Mike at X-PH. It was too good of a buy at ultimately why I went that route.

I will post some videos this weekend when it is hooked up.
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So I ordered the exact one you are looking at for your 328i. It should be here this week. Ill let you know about the install and any info I may get from the test drive afterward.
Give us a review when you get it installed!!

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You know it Mike! Everything I have ordered thus far has been great!
Glad to hear it!!

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I looked and several different ones. I had narrowed it down to the CSF and the VRSF FMIC's. I chose this one after reading some good reviews and overall cost. I also was able to buy it as a combo with the VRSF catless downpipe from Mike at X-PH. It was too good of a buy at ultimately why I went that route.

I will post some videos this weekend when it is hooked up.
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Currently have an F30 328i xDrive with Dinantronics Sport Tune and M Performance Exhaust and was looking into some more bolt-ons. I've been reading about FMIC upgrades, and am strongly considering the VRSF FMIC 5" Stepped Street Core. So, I know the benefits are there, but I wanted to know if there are any downsides. Is there any downside to switching from the stock Tube+Fin design to the VRSF Bar+Plate Design? I am speaking mainly in terms of reliability. Also, how difficult will the install be? Is it as simple as removing the old intercooler and putting in the new one, no other new parts required? Anyone who knows or has done the FMIC upgrade, please let me know. Please and Thankyou!
Only downside is that the bigger intercooler will be heavier, that being said the pros heavily over-weigh cons

Here is a thread i posted a while back talking about intercoolers
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Only downside is that the bigger intercooler will be heavier, that being said the pros heavily over-weigh cons

Here is a thread i posted a while back talking about intercoolers
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gotcha, very helpful thread you posted there, thanks for that. I think I'll go with the VRSF 5" Street Core. I'm probably going to get Dinan's Stage One tune (looking to upgrade from my dinantronics sport), and I think the VRSF will go well with both my current tune and the (hopefully) future one. thanks again!!
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gotcha, very helpful thread you posted there, thanks for that. I think I'll go with the VRSF 5" Street Core. I'm probably going to get Dinan's Stage One tune (looking to upgrade from my dinantronics sport), and I think the VRSF will go well with both my current tune and the (hopefully) future one. thanks again!!
My pleasure!!

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My pleasure!!

We carry both products, let me know if i can help
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I know that's what most people do, but is it really necessary? if it won't give me any more power and I am not at risk of catastrophic engine failure without doing so, I don't see the need.
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I know that's what most people do, but is it really necessary? if it won't give me any more power and I am not at risk of catastrophic engine failure without doing so, I don't see the need.
when changing the fmic you have to remove the underbody pan and disconnect the charge pipes from the stock intercooler, which is the most difficult part.

most of us changed the CP also because we were already down there. in fact i changed the TIC pipe as well, although it's typically unnecessary.

it is definitely driveable with a broken CP. so you do NOT need to change it. if you can afford at the same time nice, if not, no "biggie". the stock CP may last the life of the car.
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I know that's what most people do, but is it really necessary? if it won't give me any more power and I am not at risk of catastrophic engine failure without doing so, I don't see the need.
I mean you already have a tune and an upgraded exhausted, I just assumed you were going be adding more upgrades, you already have the hardest part done so why wouldn't you?
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I mean you already have a tune and an upgraded exhausted, I just assumed you were going be adding more upgrades, you already have the hardest part done so why wouldn't you?
the only upgrade I plan on past a FMIC is a better more advanced tune and maybe a downpipe. I appreciate the suggestion, I might end up doing the CP's too while I'm in there for the FMIC. we'll see if I feel like spending the extra money when I order the FMIC.
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