[RoundelM3]

Originally Posted by The Nerd

Anyone know how much peak boost the Dinan MPPK tune will put out? Heck....for comparison's sake....what does a regular MPPK 335i put out?

Also, if I blow a charge pipe (a known problem on f30 335s) with this tune, I assume Dinan would pick up the tab?

Finally....does anyone know if this tune would be screwed up if the MPPK were to get accidentally erased? Not planning on this....but sometime dealerships are careless when they do software updates.

Actually, they're not "careless"...I recently had an aux cooling fan replaced, requiring some programming, and I informed the SA that the car had the MPPK prior to turning it over to the dealership. According to the tech, since MPPK is a BMW software version/update, there's no way to "accidentally erase" it, unlike with the previous Dinan flash tunes where the tune had to be re-loaded after the stock software was re-flashed. Once the MPPK is in place, it's the car's "normal" software version and the system would require an over-ride to force a different ECU software load.

After the service was done, I was able to load my profile from the USB stick I keep in the center console slot, but my radio stations had to be re-programmed (which is no big deal). Everything else was unaffected.

[The Nerd]

Originally Posted by roundel335

Actually, they're not "careless"...I recently had an aux cooling fan replaced, requiring some programming, and I informed the SA that the car had the MPPK prior to turning it over to the dealership. According to the tech, since MPPK is a BMW software version/update, there's no way to "accidentally erase" it, unlike with the previous Dinan flash tunes where the tune had to be re-loaded after the stock software was re-flashed. Once the MPPK is in place, it's the car's "normal" software version and the system would require an over-ride to force a different ECU software load.

After the service was done, I was able to load my profile from the USB stick I keep in the center console slot, but my radio stations had to be re-programmed (which is no big deal). Everything else was unaffected.

I apologize for using the word careless....in fact, my local dealership has always been stellar. I was just commenting based on some of the other experiences I've heard from other forum members with their "bad" experiences. Now that that is behind us....any info on max boost from this tune compared to stock MPPK boost?

[shivaswrath]

Originally Posted by roundel335

Actually, they're not "careless"...I recently had an aux cooling fan replaced, requiring some programming, and I informed the SA that the car had the MPPK prior to turning it over to the dealership. According to the tech, since MPPK is a BMW software version/update, there's no way to "accidentally erase" it, unlike with the previous Dinan flash tunes where the tune had to be re-loaded after the stock software was re-flashed. Once the MPPK is in place, it's the car's "normal" software version and the system would require an over-ride to force a different ECU software load.

After the service was done, I was able to load my profile from the USB stick I keep in the center console slot, but my radio stations had to be re-programmed (which is no big deal). Everything else was unaffected.

Actually...

Originally Posted by The Nerd

I apologize for using the word careless....in fact, my local dealership has always been stellar. I was just commenting based on some of the other experiences I've heard from other forum members with their "bad" experiences. Now that that is behind us....any info on max boost from this tune compared to stock MPPK boost?

It can happen...

So long story short, dealership in CT, where I purchased car, has done everything I've done to it. Take it to local dealer in Bridgewater NJ (horrible dealership BTW), and they decide to reprogram my car to a 2012 335i BASE!! YES, they deleted the MPPK, and after a week of sluggish driving and thinking WTF happened and an AIRBAG CODE (yes, my airbags stopped working because of this), they had to take my car back in, the local BMW REP had to get a new PPK token, and it had to be reloaded.

F'IN MORONs.

So I will be doing the Dinan at the dealership in CT that did the PPK because frankly it can be deleted.

[Agamemnon]

Thanks for this post - I guess this is a cautionary tale. You really need to find a good dealership and stick with them. My dealer has been very good and is the oldest BMW dealership in this area - I remember test driving a new 2002 with them when I was much younger.

[timothyhugh]

I have MPPK and MPE on my 335, can I just install Stage 2, when that becomes available or am I required to change my intake and exhaust?

I saw some replies that hinted at a new Dinan intake being developed and the MPE just being louder than stock, etc. but I don't think I saw a definitive answer from Dinan on this.

Please be clear, MPE and MPPK with Dinan Stage2?

Thanks,
Tim.

[auf Deutsch]

^when stage 2 becomes available, their claimed hp and tq numbers will be based on the inclusion of Dinan exhaust, intake or whatever other components associated with stage 2. This doesn't mean the user cannot use other brands such as M performance or BMS. The tune will still work but Dinan can't claim a specific hp/tq figure with non Dinan components. For example, MPE claims no hp gain whereas Dinan exhaust claims 6. So, if stage 2 is claimed at say 380 hp, you may only be getting 374 with MPE.

[timothyhugh]

Thanks, this is what I am hoping for an "official" confirmation on. Once Dinan doesn't require that you upgrade from the MPPK intake and MPE exhaust to add Stage 2, then I am okay with the lower numbers.

I just don't want to spend another $2k and then have to buy components that I have already "upgraded" and I'm happy with.

[Mike_L]

The MPPK "intake" isn't an intake at all. Its a stock airbox with a hole in the side. Absolutely worthless for performance. I'd actually go as far as saying that its worse than stock. At least the stock intake is sealed and at speed it could become slightly pressurized. The MPPK one is open to suck in hot air and can never get the Ram Air effect.

[RoundelM3]

Originally Posted by shivaswrath

Actually...


It can happen...

So long story short, dealership in CT, where I purchased car, has done everything I've done to it. Take it to local dealer in Bridgewater NJ (horrible dealership BTW), and they decide to reprogram my car to a 2012 335i BASE!! YES, they deleted the MPPK, and after a week of sluggish driving and thinking WTF happened and an AIRBAG CODE (yes, my airbags stopped working because of this), they had to take my car back in, the local BMW REP had to get a new PPK token, and it had to be reloaded.

F'IN MORONs.

So I will be doing the Dinan at the dealership in CT that did the PPK because frankly it can be deleted.

If they purposely bypass the warnings and force the wrong flash code into the ECU, yes, that would effectively delete your MPPK - however, this isn't a case of being careless, it's a case of the techs being purposely stupid. Glad you got things straightened out.

With this new piggyback, I'm stuck with the nearest Dinan dealer being in Raleigh, a few hours' drive from here in the Wilmington area. I'm looking to see if there's an indy shop here that might be able to do it, and I'm also checking with my local dealer to be sure that having it installed won't be a big deal for them.

[RoundelM3]

Originally Posted by The Nerd

I apologize for using the word careless....in fact, my local dealership has always been stellar. I was just commenting based on some of the other experiences I've heard from other forum members with their "bad" experiences. Now that that is behind us....any info on max boost from this tune compared to stock MPPK boost?

No official word, but as I recall, with the N54 flash tunes, the S3 software (their highest level tune) increased boost to about 15 PSI. Steve apparently felt that was the highest "safe" level, although they required a larger oil cooler and intercooler to keep their parallel warranty in effect. S2 was probably 2-3 PSI below that, and didn't require any extra pieces. With this newer N55, I'm not even sure what the stock max boost is set at.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by Mike_L

The MPPK "intake" isn't an intake at all. Its a stock airbox with a hole in the side.

Wouldn't you agree that even the stock airbox assembly is technically an "intake?"

[Mike_L]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

Wouldn't you agree that even the stock airbox assembly is technically an "intake?"

Technically its an "intake". Its not good for performance, but its an intake.

[Sharp_Cai]

Dinan engineer, my car is built before 7/13 and how do I check if my car is MWG? Or all cars built b4 7/13 r MWG? Please advise.

[Damon44]

My 435 is consecutively loaded with MPPK then Dinan ST1 with harness.
Wish I knew actual dyno measured horse power but I don't.
There are no error codes and it blazes along when the throttle is depressed.
Is there going to be an increase after this boost?

[timothyhugh]

So what are your thoughts? Was it worth it?

[Damon44]

I felt that the n55 was underpowered reed without the boost. The MPPk merely
Brought the 435 up to acceptable performance levels but I paid $500 as a residualized lease.
Wish I had gone withDinan to begin with. Their boost is much more powerful than my wife's 335 with only MPPk.
The piggy back works well and the car is very fast from 50-100.pretty good from 0-50. No more stumbling after breaking.
I would start with Dinan stage 1 to 364 hp.
I feel the acceleration in the seat back but that isn't objective!

[timothyhugh]

Great, thanks for the feedback. I just have the MPPK and MPE because Dinan wasn't out when I bought my car. I did have the Dinan Stage 2 on my N54 and that was awesome. My N55 feels like it needs some more power but at $2K I am wondering if Dinan Stage 1 is worth it or if I should wait for Stage 2

[Mike_L]

Originally Posted by timothyhugh

Great, thanks for the feedback. I just have the MPPK and MPE because Dinan wasn't out when I bought my car. I did have the Dinan Stage 2 on my N54 and that was awesome. My N55 feels like it needs some more power but at $2K I am wondering if Dinan Stage 1 is worth it or if I should wait for Stage 2

The way Dinan works is that you can put on a lower Stage, and then when the next Stage comes out you just pay the difference between the two. So you can get a Stage 1 now, and its $2k, if Stage 2 comes out for $2500, it'll just cost you $500.

[timothyhugh]

Yup, thanks. That was my other plan too. I was curious to know if Dinan will make us buy their intake and exhaust to get to stage 2 or if MPPK and MPE would qualify. I never did get a response so I am not sure what Stage 2 will mandate. The only other concern is that you may have to pay for the installation (labor) twice if you did it in stages.

Either way, thanks for the reminder Stage 1 first may be a good interim option.

[cheetose]

dear dinan,

i have problem when installing dinantronics, i dont have place to put the dinan where the fusebox is on the other side, it is not in the same side with the positive terminal battery







please advice

[The Nerd]

Dinan Engineering,

Just curious if there are any updates regarding the Dinantronics....I figured all could benefit from my questions:

1) Any updated info on the f30 N55 MPPK Dinantronics STAGE 2 power/torque figures as well as release date and pricing?

2) Any updated info on the f30 N55 INTAKE power/torque gains as well as release date and pricing? Obviously, this would be recommended in tandem with the stage 2.

3) Do you (or will you) ever offer discounts for buying "combos"? For example, a discounted price for buying both the Dinantronics and intake together?


Thanks again for being so accessible and always being willing to answer our questions.

The Nerd

[Damon44]

Originally Posted by The Nerd

Dinan Engineering,

Just curious if there are any updates regarding the Dinantronics....I figured all could benefit from my questions:

1) Any updated info on the f30 N55 MPPK Dinantronics STAGE 2 power/torque figures as well as release date and pricing?

2) Any updated info on the f30 N55 INTAKE power/torque gains as well as release date and pricing? Obviously, this would be recommended in tandem with the stage 2.

3) Do you (or will you) ever offer discounts for buying "combos"? For example, a discounted price for buying both the Dinantronics and intake together?


Thanks again for being so accessible and always being willing to answer our questions.

The Nerd

I hope Dinan sees the post otherwise I will call them at 800 number.
My big question is whether a larger more powerful cold air intake is required?
All I have now is the M performance cover which supposedly is the same as stock except for a hole in the side.
I have a Dinan exhaust system going in this week and the Dinan dealer didn't seem to think a bigger intake would be required for the additional horses. Not knowing much about car engines, doesn't it make sense that to improve power more air is needed?
Where did I read on the forums that February release may be possible.
With all that we laid out for the Stage 1 Dinantronics with harness and ecu stuff hope we catch a break on Stage 2.