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      12-05-2011, 02:54 PM   #177
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Absolutely horrid interior. It lost it's simple German elegance.
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      12-05-2011, 02:58 PM   #178
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That interior will not be making it to America from what I've heard at BMW NA.

For those who want to track the car, Cloth is a lot better due to its breathability and grip. Have you ever tried to track a car with leather upholstery on a hot day? Not exactly a fun experience. If you don't have at least a 4 point harness, you slide around all over the place too.
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      12-05-2011, 03:34 PM   #179
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what i cant get over is the fact that i can stick my frickin fist in that wheel well. please tell me thats not the stock ride height or theres some explanation for this on the M-SPORT...

it seriously even looks like it sits higher than the sport line model.
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      12-05-2011, 03:38 PM   #180
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..But those of us that can look at it with a less biased eye all seem to have the same opinion...cheap Japanese import look. I really just cannot get over how bad it looks. It doesn't make me happy to say that but it's the truth.
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Absolutely horrid interior. It lost it's simple German elegance.

Can't please everyone

I'm someone who never owned a bmw and failed to pull the trigger on an e90 because, even after test driving one, the interior made me feel nothing. I decided to wait a few months to see what the f30 would look like. I'm glad I did because I have no reservations about it. It's exactly what many of us wanted.

This interior will draw a lot of people to the 3 series that the e90 wouldn't have. Of course, it may lose a lot of people like yourself, that liked the e90 styling better. It's foolish though, to call this styling a failure just because some don't like it. That would be like saying those of us who like the styling were tasteless, uncultured human beings...sigh. You wouldn't agree with anyone who didn't like the e90's styling telling you it was a outright failure, right?

In the end BMW took a gamble to see, if by changing the styling direction, they would draw in more than they would push away. Time will tell.
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      12-05-2011, 04:48 PM   #181
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Another tacky thing is, you can see the paint of the door from inside the cabin. not sure if that was intentional or not, but still tacky

or is it just the angle and flash that caught the gap?

No better or worse than this 2011 E90 on Carmax:
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      12-05-2011, 05:08 PM   #182
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Man, I like this guy. He and I have the same opinion. I have been looking for a guy like him for years! My two favorite companies... Bavarian and Apple.
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      12-05-2011, 05:13 PM   #183
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Wow, someone that is more of a BMW and Apple leg humper than I am...
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      12-05-2011, 05:26 PM   #184
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I love these videos but they make me dizzy, this guy is in dire need of a iphone 4s w/ video image stablization.



There is one thing I noticed about the m-sport steering wheel, because of the retro look, it makes it appear to be thin by looks, like it needs to be beefier, maybe it's an optical illution. It makes the wheel circumfrance seem large, I hope it's not like that in person. Maybe it's because of all the space inside the wheel that makes it seem that way.

The current m-sport wheel just looks and feels more beefier.
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      12-05-2011, 06:04 PM   #185
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absolutely stunning exterior.

Navi delete anybody?

seats could use some matching stitching and leather too.
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      12-05-2011, 06:23 PM   #186
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Still looks like a facelifted E90 as opposed to an all new model.
The headlights look crap and the idrive screen looks like an eBay special from Taiwan.
Mercedes will be having my money when I change cars.
I agree with your first comment and your bit about the screen. I hate the screen.

And i've never seen a reviewer brown nose this much before. If you're after a freebee good try!!! "as an every day user of this car I like the little touches like the extra utility space" and he pulls up the tray to reveal the cup holders! Tadaaaa!!! It may have been good if you pushed a button to reveal the cup holders. But in the year 2012 to pull out a tray(which you will have to store in the glove compartment i'm presuming) to get to the cup holders, not cool!!! Bullsh*t review for all the brown nosing!!!
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      12-05-2011, 07:21 PM   #187
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I absolutely LOVE the F30, especially with the M Sports Package. It looks so aggressive! Can't wait for the M3/4 Coupe!! I really hope they don't name it the M4 for traditions sake. Anyway, this is my first post here, so I hope to join in many more discussions and look forward to the future updates!

Cheers.
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      12-05-2011, 08:07 PM   #188
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After looking at the newer pics on a computer instead of my phone, I have only one complaint about the new M Spot steering wheel. The design of it makes it look a little too large.
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      12-05-2011, 08:56 PM   #189
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I just realized there was a video up of the M Sport from AutoSpies. Im lovin' this car even more. That M Sport steering wheel doesnt look large in the video like it does in pics. Nice. And for once, I am going to consider an automatic!
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      12-05-2011, 09:01 PM   #190
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Thats nice as!
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      12-05-2011, 10:08 PM   #191
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Fish netting? In a Bimmer?
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      12-06-2011, 12:01 AM   #192
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You drive a 1-series and not even the m enough said.... Most people on here that drive the e90 are the core customer of bmw... And they are mostly disappointed in the rental car/jdm/vw look that the f30 demonstrates... Yes, new customers to bmw will buy the f30 but this will drive the core audience to remain in their e9x, or look to other manufacturers and hope to God the f32 looks like a baby 6 series... Yes the f30 is nice, but not revolutionary or a logical progression and that's where the failure is... You can't please everyone, but at least please your core audience... I'd rather drive the humpback 535gt than the f30 lol
There are plenty of core BMW customers who skipped on buying the E90 and are happy with the looks of the F30.

Don't falsely assume that everyone who owns an E90 is core customer or true BMW customer.

Guess what? Every initial reviewer has been praising the new car - from looks to performance to comfort. You don't like it and that is fine. But don't generalize and make false assumptions about core customers.
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      12-06-2011, 01:04 AM   #193
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Alcantara provides better grip, but I’d still prefer leather. If I want an Alcantara seat, it’d have to be a performance/racing seat. I don’t really care for all the electronic stuff either. I’d prefer a simple, lightweight car that handles great, but time has changed, so I suppose I just have to learn to embrace them.

As for the new M steering wheel, I’m not sure why they've chosen to copy it from Ford/Mazda, which I don't particularly like, but I have to say BMW did make it look slightly better, and as long as the rim is as thick as the current M steering wheel, I'm OK with it (still prefer the new standard steering wheel though).







However, if they were going to copy it from someone else, I wish they had copied it from Ferrari. The Ferrari Enzo's steering wheel is still the best steering wheel IMO.

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      12-06-2011, 01:14 AM   #194
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This car just looks amazing. The interior is really nice too. I am still not sure about the steering wheel, but it is growing on me. Just cant wait to drive one!!
I LOVE the steering wheel!!
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      12-06-2011, 03:56 AM   #195
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The real world pictures are not as good.

the seats are dull to look at.... it makes the whole interior seem dull and old.

Nay for the interior
Yay for the exterior
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      12-06-2011, 11:07 AM   #196
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I clicked on that video to hear that German gentleman who is an expert from BMW talk and all I heard was the autospies guy. Autospies dude, thanks for making these videos as they are pretty sweet, but please know your place. Let the guy who built the car tell the story and get him to tell you what we want to hear. Otherwise, I felt it necessary to skip ahead in the video to find when he was talking, not autospies guy.
Good to know that I'm not the only one who doesn't care what that guy's favorite color is.
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      12-06-2011, 11:28 AM   #197
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As for the new M steering wheel, I’m not sure why they've chosen to copy it from Ford/Mazda, which I don't particularly like, but I have to say BMW did make it look slightly better, and as long as the rim is as thick as the current M steering wheel, I'm OK with it (still prefer the new standard steering wheel though).







However, if they were going to copy it from someone else, I wish they had copied it from Ferrari. The Ferrari Enzo's steering wheel is still the best steering wheel IMO.



Apparently you don't recall past BMW wheel designs. There's only so much you can do with the steering wheel, and this new M-Sport design draws strong influence from past design cues and gives them a modern, integrated, minimalistic look. Just because the Mazda and the Stang have circular hub surrounded by three spokes does not mean that BMW copied them.

That Enzo's wheel is too costly and the ergonomics would turn off a huge market of potential buyers. These are mass-produced cars, of course.






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