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      02-10-2014, 07:55 AM   #23
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I have had similar issues as the others. Mine is a 2014 RWD, October build, December PPK install. CEL came on, next day I took to dealer and SA turned light off, said it was the vap line??? 200 miles later CEL came on again. Next day took it in. Did a full diagnosis it's the hot air mass meter. I think that 3 cars w/ same issue, same build, same PPK, I would bet that there's a broader issue.
Interesting. Same problem as mine, mass airflow sensor.

Have to agree about the MPPK not being ready for MY 2014.

How long ago was this replaced?
Has the CEL came on since?
Was your MPPK dealer or Port installed? (Mine wasn't avail at port, so had it done at dealer).
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      02-10-2014, 09:51 PM   #24
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Picked it up today. Driven about 60 miles.
Dealer installed. Port install was not an option at the time.
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So do we think it's a Mass Airflow Sensor issue?
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mine was a a 2541 MAF Sensor and Hot Film Air Mass Meter. Not sure if that 1 sensor or 2 different ones.
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mine was a a 2541 MAF Sensor and Hot Film Air Mass Meter. Not sure if that 1 sensor or 2 different ones.
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Well my light popped back on again last week. It was out of the shop for under 1000 miles.. The light will come on, then pop off after a few on/off cycles. Couple days later.

Will be traveling over the next couple weeks, so won't be able to take the car in until early next month.

So annoying.

Can anyone say lemon?
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I am... 3rd time now, and they cannot figure it out... Did yours say 'drivetrain malfunction'?
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I have about 10K miles on my 2013 335i, with over 8,000 of them with the MPPK installed. Zero problems, no CEL, just improved response and performance. Sorry to hear some of the MY 14 cars are experiencing this difficulty. I was curious as to whether the software from the MY 14 MPPK could be installed on the MY 13 cars to get the extra 15 hp, but I'll just sit back and wait to see whether there's a major flaw somewhere.
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Sorry to hear that.

I had my MPPK and MPE installed on my MY 2014 335i M-Sport back in February of 2014 (car was built in February of 2014 as well).

After 1500 miles, 0 issues so far with it.
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My cel came on for the fifth time since I got the car (jan. 2014). It usually goes away a few days later however it is very annoying. They don't seem to be able to find the problem.... My car is currently at the dealer since Monday, and they still have found no problem.
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I am... 3rd time now, and they cannot figure it out... Did yours say 'drivetrain malfunction'?
Did not get a drivetrain malfunction.

Mine pops on for a couple days, then cycles off. Won't be able to get it back to service for a couple more week.

Very annoying problem.
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My cel came on for the fifth time since I got the car (jan. 2014). It usually goes away a few days later however it is very annoying. They don't seem to be able to find the problem.... My car is currently at the dealer since Monday, and they still have found no problem.
Have they replaced any parts? What's the diagnosis?

Mine was Mass Airflow sensor, followed by intake pressure sensor. Who knows what time #3 will bring.
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Have they replaced any parts? What's the diagnosis?

Mine was Mass Airflow sensor, followed by intake pressure sensor. Who knows what time #3 will bring.
I dont know, they asked me if i can leave the car one more day to do extensive testing. They will drive the car for over 1 hour... We will see whatbtheybsay tomorrow.
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Dealer called me back

So they repaired my car, they said the problem is related to the Air flow meter. Hopefully the code will not come back!
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My check engine light was for a Vanos control unit.
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My check engine light was for a problem with the Adaptive M Suspension. I tourned off the engine, started it again and the signal was gone... Boh?!?
Too much electronic systems...
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OK so that wasn't long, CEL back on tonight for the 6th time since I got my car in January... I hope BMW Canada can do something for me because I am tired of dealing with this shit!
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I've been wanting to have the MPPK installed on my 14 435 (would be a dealer install) but these threads have me very concerned that I might incur a lot of headaches, especially since I have a 2014. It sure would be great to get some inside knowledge from a BMW tech or insider on how extensive the issues are for the new MPPK parts/software update. My dealer has not installed any yet so they have no experience with it (although they did a great job with my M performance brake kit install which was also a first for them).
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Trying to find out more on this CEL issue.

If I can ask the community here to provide feedback on your MPPK experience and if you have had any CEL issues it would be greatly appreciated.

There is one stipulation though, please provide only if you have driven your car with the MPPK installed at speeds of 240-250km/h (155mph). I was only getting the CEL at speeds of 230km/p and higher.

So, here is my log so far:

28 Oct 2013 (Bill of Sales) – Vehicle purchased 2014 BMW (F34) 335i GT

04 Nov 2013 – Car picked up at BMW Karl + Co. GmbH & Co. KG, Mainz

14 Jan 2014 – BMW M Performance Power Kit installed at BMW Karl + Co. GmbH & Co. KG, Mainz

28 Jan 2014 – Check Engine Light (CEL) came on and I made an appointment to have it looked at. At the end of the first day that the CEL came on, it disappeared. I canceled my appointment the next day thinking maybe it was just the temperature being too cold. The break in period was observed, I did not drive the car aggressively and drove approximately 2000 km already.

6 Feb 2014 – (First Visit) CEL came back on, I made another appointment to have it looked at. The day I had my appointment to have the CEL looked at, it disappeared. When I arrived at the BMW Dealership, I told the BMW associate that the CEL was gone again. The dealership kept my car overnight to run tests on it. The next day I picked the car up, they had performed a reset and the CEL was gone. I was not told what errors were found if any.

2nd week of February – CEL came back on, appointment made with BMW.

18 Feb 2014 – (Second Visit) Returned the car to BMW for service of CEL warning. Car was again reset and the CEL was gone, I was not told what errors were detected.

22 Feb 2014 – CEL came back on, after the car was parked for approximately eight hours, the CEL was gone. I contacted BMW on Monday, 24 Feb for another visit.

13 Mar 2014 – (Third Visit) Returned my car again to BMW for the CEL warning being on again. I told the BMW associate that I have read in some forums that it might have to do with the Mass Air Flow Sensor and the Power Kit conflicting with each other. They ran tests again and they also contacted BMW Munich. I also told them that the CEL seems to only come on when I am at higher speeds between 200 – 230 km/h. I picked my car back up again, CEL again is reset and gone.

25 Mar 2014 – (Fourth Visit) Returned my car again for the CEL issue. Car was at the dealership for two days. They had asked me to bring the original Air Filter Box, they installed the original Air Filter Box back onto the car. I was told that this is what BMW Munich told them to do. I was told that if the check engine light came on again to reschedule for another appointment.

1 Apr 2014 – On my way to work, the CEL came back on. Again it came on at higher speeds, I was travelling between 200-240 km/h. I have contacted the BMW Dealership again, the associate is informing the mechanic which is suppose to contact BMW Munich. I am awaiting instructions from the BMW Dealership for another appointment.

22 April 2014 – Dropped off my car to the BMW Dealership. I was told to bring the MPPK Air Filter Box. They were given new software to install into my car by BMW Munich.

24 April 2014 – Picked up my car, new software installed and MPPK Air Filter Box was reinstalled. At a glance, first thing I saw that was different was that the Sports Display was now showing 320HP/320 ft lb Torque, back to its original state when I first bought my car. After the initial install of the MPPK, the Sports Display was displaying 400HP/400 ft lb Torque. I was told to let the BMW Dealership know if the CEL came back on.

02 May 2014 – I stopped by the BMW Dealership to provide a status update on my car. The CEL has not come back on. I did tell the BMW associate that I did feel less power. When I push on full throttle on the gas, I noticed that the Sport Display would show the torque barely reaching the 300 ft lb of torque. The original ft lb of torque is 300, with the MPPK; it is suppose to be at 332 lbs of torque.

I was also not able to go pass 245 km/h as I did before. I purchased my car with the option that removed the speed limiter (option 840), my top speed is suppose to be 250 km/h. I have reached speeds passing 245 km/h before.

I also had to add 2 quarts (approximately 2 liters) of oil yesterday. This seemed weird since I just had an oil change exactly one month and one day ago, the car was at 19,333km. So adding 2 quarts to a car that recently had an oil change in less than 6000km seemed weird. Waiting on BMW for what’s next.
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Trying to find out more on this CEL issue.

If I can ask the community here to provide feedback on your MPPK experience and if you have had any CEL issues it would be greatly appreciated.

There is one stipulation though, please provide only if you have driven your car with the MPPK installed at speeds of 240-250km/h (155mph). I was only getting the CEL at speeds of 230km/p and higher.

So, here is my log so far:

28 Oct 2013 (Bill of Sales) – Vehicle purchased 2014 BMW (F34) 335i GT

04 Nov 2013 – Car picked up at BMW Karl + Co. GmbH & Co. KG, Mainz

14 Jan 2014 – BMW M Performance Power Kit installed at BMW Karl + Co. GmbH & Co. KG, Mainz

28 Jan 2014 – Check Engine Light (CEL) came on and I made an appointment to have it looked at. At the end of the first day that the CEL came on, it disappeared. I canceled my appointment the next day thinking maybe it was just the temperature being too cold. The break in period was observed, I did not drive the car aggressively and drove approximately 2000 km already.

6 Feb 2014 – (First Visit) CEL came back on, I made another appointment to have it looked at. The day I had my appointment to have the CEL looked at, it disappeared. When I arrived at the BMW Dealership, I told the BMW associate that the CEL was gone again. The dealership kept my car overnight to run tests on it. The next day I picked the car up, they had performed a reset and the CEL was gone. I was not told what errors were found if any.

2nd week of February – CEL came back on, appointment made with BMW.

18 Feb 2014 – (Second Visit) Returned the car to BMW for service of CEL warning. Car was again reset and the CEL was gone, I was not told what errors were detected.

22 Feb 2014 – CEL came back on, after the car was parked for approximately eight hours, the CEL was gone. I contacted BMW on Monday, 24 Feb for another visit.

13 Mar 2014 – (Third Visit) Returned my car again to BMW for the CEL warning being on again. I told the BMW associate that I have read in some forums that it might have to do with the Mass Air Flow Sensor and the Power Kit conflicting with each other. They ran tests again and they also contacted BMW Munich. I also told them that the CEL seems to only come on when I am at higher speeds between 200 – 230 km/h. I picked my car back up again, CEL again is reset and gone.

25 Mar 2014 – (Fourth Visit) Returned my car again for the CEL issue. Car was at the dealership for two days. They had asked me to bring the original Air Filter Box, they installed the original Air Filter Box back onto the car. I was told that this is what BMW Munich told them to do. I was told that if the check engine light came on again to reschedule for another appointment.

1 Apr 2014 – On my way to work, the CEL came back on. Again it came on at higher speeds, I was travelling between 200-240 km/h. I have contacted the BMW Dealership again, the associate is informing the mechanic which is suppose to contact BMW Munich. I am awaiting instructions from the BMW Dealership for another appointment.

22 April 2014 – Dropped off my car to the BMW Dealership. I was told to bring the MPPK Air Filter Box. They were given new software to install into my car by BMW Munich.

24 April 2014 – Picked up my car, new software installed and MPPK Air Filter Box was reinstalled. At a glance, first thing I saw that was different was that the Sports Display was now showing 320HP/320 ft lb Torque, back to its original state when I first bought my car. After the initial install of the MPPK, the Sports Display was displaying 400HP/400 ft lb Torque. I was told to let the BMW Dealership know if the CEL came back on.

02 May 2014 – I stopped by the BMW Dealership to provide a status update on my car. The CEL has not come back on. I did tell the BMW associate that I did feel less power. When I push on full throttle on the gas, I noticed that the Sport Display would show the torque barely reaching the 300 ft lb of torque. The original ft lb of torque is 300, with the MPPK; it is suppose to be at 332 lbs of torque.

I was also not able to go pass 245 km/h as I did before. I purchased my car with the option that removed the speed limiter (option 840), my top speed is suppose to be 250 km/h. I have reached speeds passing 245 km/h before.

I also had to add 2 quarts (approximately 2 liters) of oil yesterday. This seemed weird since I just had an oil change exactly one month and one day ago, the car was at 19,333km. So adding 2 quarts to a car that recently had an oil change in less than 6000km seemed weird. Waiting on BMW for what’s next.
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Trying to find out more on this CEL issue.

If I can ask the community here to provide feedback on your MPPK experience and if you have had any CEL issues it would be greatly appreciated.

There is one stipulation though, please provide only if you have driven your car with the MPPK installed at speeds of 240-250km/h (155mph). I was only getting the CEL at speeds of 230km/p and higher.

So, here is my log so far:

28 Oct 2013 (Bill of Sales) – Vehicle purchased 2014 BMW (F34) 335i GT

04 Nov 2013 – Car picked up at BMW Karl + Co. GmbH & Co. KG, Mainz

14 Jan 2014 – BMW M Performance Power Kit installed at BMW Karl + Co. GmbH & Co. KG, Mainz

28 Jan 2014 – Check Engine Light (CEL) came on and I made an appointment to have it looked at. At the end of the first day that the CEL came on, it disappeared. I canceled my appointment the next day thinking maybe it was just the temperature being too cold. The break in period was observed, I did not drive the car aggressively and drove approximately 2000 km already.

6 Feb 2014 – (First Visit) CEL came back on, I made another appointment to have it looked at. The day I had my appointment to have the CEL looked at, it disappeared. When I arrived at the BMW Dealership, I told the BMW associate that the CEL was gone again. The dealership kept my car overnight to run tests on it. The next day I picked the car up, they had performed a reset and the CEL was gone. I was not told what errors were found if any.

2nd week of February – CEL came back on, appointment made with BMW.

18 Feb 2014 – (Second Visit) Returned the car to BMW for service of CEL warning. Car was again reset and the CEL was gone, I was not told what errors were detected.

22 Feb 2014 – CEL came back on, after the car was parked for approximately eight hours, the CEL was gone. I contacted BMW on Monday, 24 Feb for another visit.

13 Mar 2014 – (Third Visit) Returned my car again to BMW for the CEL warning being on again. I told the BMW associate that I have read in some forums that it might have to do with the Mass Air Flow Sensor and the Power Kit conflicting with each other. They ran tests again and they also contacted BMW Munich. I also told them that the CEL seems to only come on when I am at higher speeds between 200 – 230 km/h. I picked my car back up again, CEL again is reset and gone.

25 Mar 2014 – (Fourth Visit) Returned my car again for the CEL issue. Car was at the dealership for two days. They had asked me to bring the original Air Filter Box, they installed the original Air Filter Box back onto the car. I was told that this is what BMW Munich told them to do. I was told that if the check engine light came on again to reschedule for another appointment.

1 Apr 2014 – On my way to work, the CEL came back on. Again it came on at higher speeds, I was travelling between 200-240 km/h. I have contacted the BMW Dealership again, the associate is informing the mechanic which is suppose to contact BMW Munich. I am awaiting instructions from the BMW Dealership for another appointment.

22 April 2014 – Dropped off my car to the BMW Dealership. I was told to bring the MPPK Air Filter Box. They were given new software to install into my car by BMW Munich.

24 April 2014 – Picked up my car, new software installed and MPPK Air Filter Box was reinstalled. At a glance, first thing I saw that was different was that the Sports Display was now showing 320HP/320 ft lb Torque, back to its original state when I first bought my car. After the initial install of the MPPK, the Sports Display was displaying 400HP/400 ft lb Torque. I was told to let the BMW Dealership know if the CEL came back on.

02 May 2014 – I stopped by the BMW Dealership to provide a status update on my car. The CEL has not come back on. I did tell the BMW associate that I did feel less power. When I push on full throttle on the gas, I noticed that the Sport Display would show the torque barely reaching the 300 ft lb of torque. The original ft lb of torque is 300, with the MPPK; it is suppose to be at 332 lbs of torque.

I was also not able to go pass 245 km/h as I did before. I purchased my car with the option that removed the speed limiter (option 840), my top speed is suppose to be 250 km/h. I have reached speeds passing 245 km/h before.

I also had to add 2 quarts (approximately 2 liters) of oil yesterday. This seemed weird since I just had an oil change exactly one month and one day ago, the car was at 19,333km. So adding 2 quarts to a car that recently had an oil change in less than 6000km seemed weird. Waiting on BMW for what’s next.
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GlennQNYC,

Thanks for pointing this out on every post that I had. So do you have any actual positive remarks to give? Have you experienced this CEL yet? Thanks
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Sounds like they uninstalled your kit.
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