12-03-2012, 09:07 PM | #309 |
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Well, that's quite bad cos the E92 is already up for replacement soon (plus the 2dr coupe market is much smaller than the family car market). To put things into perspective, the F07's production figures only beat those of really niche products.
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In Asia (only for PRC & HK) it's relatively successful again due to factory incentives. The F07 in those markets not only cannibilised sales but also decreased profitability. |
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12-03-2012, 09:33 PM | #311 |
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12-03-2012, 09:37 PM | #312 | |
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Wht u said abt cannibilisation is entirely true. It hurts profitability as well as brand image. |
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12-03-2012, 09:38 PM | #313 |
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hmmm, they lost it again .
Now, I m waiting for the 4 series, and if the 4er doesn't look good or is overpriced, I m jumping to MB or Audi (Cadi might be considered as well since it's been getting good reviews lately) |
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12-03-2012, 09:45 PM | #314 |
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This is horrible. A terrible thing to do to the 3er. Please don't bring this to the USA. And please remember what makes a BMW a BMW and not just a sales chaser. I get survival and diversification but not if it produces this terribly proportioned car.
And return steering feel to the 3er.
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12-03-2012, 10:28 PM | #315 |
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Trash, I think the only reason BMW did this because the 3 series is the best seller. So y not make a GT version? That's a big fail, nobody likes these at least in The United States of America. I've seen only 1 5series GT I repeat 1 in my life living here, not even in the dealership.
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12-03-2012, 11:54 PM | #319 | |
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# of 5GT globally "sold" that are actually BMW Service and Dealer Courtesy Cars: 21,279
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12-03-2012, 11:59 PM | #320 | |
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IMO just drop those GT and stick with the Tourer-wagon-SUV look how poorly the 5er GT does compared to the Wagon
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12-04-2012, 12:18 AM | #321 | ||
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I have a question for you now. Please explain how the increasingly numb steering is a response to market demands? Literally how many people said, "I love the car, but the steering wheel is just telling me too much about what the front wheels are doing. Please kill all feel in the new model". When I say feel I am not referring to weight, but rather how the weight changes depending on grip levels. I feel that needed clarification as BMW seems to have forgotten the difference here lately. I look forward to your reply. |
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12-04-2012, 01:22 AM | #322 |
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I held off responding to this quote for a while to let the full effect sink in. I'm in the tiny minority who thinks that it looks OK, particularly in M Sport guise. That said, it would look so much better without the high roofline. Why couldn't BMW just use the same, sleek roofline of the 3 sedan and add the hatch? It would look great. The raised roof and larger greenhouse is what takes away from the overall look. I was seriously considering this version as my next car (if it would be offered in the US), but have decided against it. Looking OK isn't enough...
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12-04-2012, 01:25 AM | #323 |
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Missed Opportunity
Introducing the vents on this model sends all the wrong messages re style over substance.
Plus this is just another ugly car. Why can't BMW just have a requirement that the cars look beautiful. Why is it so hit and miss??? |
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12-04-2012, 01:32 AM | #324 |
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How I hoped BMW 3er GT would look like.
The practicality of 5 door; higher sitting position, elegant proportions; perfect car. I'm 30, and I would buy something like this at once. BMW should hire car-magazine illustrators. |
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12-04-2012, 02:16 AM | #325 | |
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Also, it is me,or this car looks disproportionate from lateral? There is no visual balance. What are they smoking in there? Several things must be kept in mind to make a car timeless and for some reason BMW is just experimenting on its own skin. Other companies will love to have in their portofolio some design elements that BMW has showed in time, and look waht BMW is doing. The car is just "acceptable" but I don't think acceptable is the right term for this company. I am dissapointed. Trully. BMW, hire me, I will really show you how it should be done. Seriously. Last edited by Teutonic; 12-04-2012 at 02:22 AM.. |
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12-04-2012, 02:17 AM | #326 |
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This car is not ugly...
but it just doesnt belong in a bmw lineup.... The front is grotesque, the c-pillar makes the car looks bigger than it is... (intentional design), the c-pillar throws all BMW traditional out the door, the designer didn't even bother with the c-pillar... looks like something they did 5 mins before leaving the office on a Friday evening. The Side Vent BMW is making tons of money by going to the local auto part store...\ Someone said this is BMW's Aztek... I would say worse... this BMW's CrossTour !! I dont know why they would imitate Honda's ugly duck !!?? Actually, BMW should sell this car to Honda... because it would make a great Honda! BMW can't be making cars that everyone else is supposed to be doing... BMW needs to step up or simply step down... Put the updated N55 in the Sport Wagon, and call it a day !! The Wagon deserve as much the N55 engine than this 3GT! If you are going to aim at filling as much niche as possible... make sure you dont leave the ones you already have for others to take over ! to end on a postive note: the rims are nice and despite all the criticisms, i somehow see a faint light of hope : under the right hands, the car has got some potentials! Otherwise, the chinese can keep this car in their soil. PS: thanks for all the funny comments guys !!
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12-04-2012, 02:25 AM | #327 | |
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the 3er got stretched; that's why it looks strange. Practically they tried to make a fish form out of it; they made it long, sleek and with a coupe like hood. After they stretched the fish in the middle to make it into a bulbous fish. In addition to that French magazine render I posted 3 posts back, here is how the German press imagined the 3er Gt GT when it was announced. The render looks nice. |
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12-04-2012, 04:26 AM | #328 | |
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Like I say, the more normal they try and make it the less useful it will actually be. The Audi A5 SB is a pointless car, it is marginally more cramped than the A4 in the back, and offers very little extra load space, it really is just for people who don't like the look of the A4 saloon or A4 avant. The 3GT will differentiate itself from the F30/F31 by actually offering more space. |
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