[eunosracr]

Any idea when the 435i lease specials will be out? Below are the preliminary numbers i got from my local delaership. Note these numbers are at full MSRP so i walked....


I want to personally thank you for your inquiry and interest in our great selection of vehicles. Here is the
program available for the 435i Cp you asked for based on a list price of 53925 and a 500 Owner Loyalty
Rebate of 500.

Lease for 36 monts/10,000 miles per year and a credit score above 700.
0 down, inception fees due at start of 2149 is 722 + tax
2500 down, + inception fees due at start of 2080 is 649 + tax
5000 down, + inception fees due at start of 2004 is 576 + tax

[BMWFanatic2008]

What do you mean by "lease specials"? This is a new model so I doubt you can get Invoice + x deal on it at this point. F32 will probably sell very close to MSRP at least for the first few months.

[Jparker82]

Are they charging you list with a bad money factor? Would think it has a high residual with it being a new model. But being the retired auto dealer I am. I am sure they will grab a premium until the shine wears of the apple. With a good out side rate like Pen Fed 1.49 it would be cheaper to buy. Plus the 2-5-7k down you don't throw away.

[eunosracr]

Originally Posted by BMWFanatic2008

What do you mean by "lease specials"? This is a new model so I doubt you can get Invoice + x deal on them at this point. They will probably sell very close to MSRP at least for the first few months.

I was told about 3-4 months from now we will start seeing Invoice + x deals but i wanted to see if anyone out there had heard the same or otherwise.

[eunosracr]

Originally Posted by Jparker82

Are they charging you list with a bad money factor? Would think it has a high residual with it being a new model. But being the retired auto dealer I am. I am sure they will grab a premium until the shine wears of the apple. With a good out side rate like Pen Fed 1.49 it would be cheaper to buy. Plus the 2-5-7k down you don't throw away.

They wouldn't tell me the money factor which is the first thing i asked for and yet another reason i walked. He did say residual was on the high side due to the 4 being the "hot new coupe."

[300hp]

Originally Posted by eunosracr

They wouldn't tell me the money factor which is the first thing i asked for and yet another reason i walked. He did say residual was on the high side due to the 4 being the "hot new coupe."

There is also BMW driving events which give you $1,000 off. A dealership here is offering me $2,000 off for those driving events. Where there is a will there is a way

[Jparker82]

Originally Posted by 300hp

There is also BMW driving events which give you $1,000 off. A dealership here is offering me $2,000 off for those driving events. Where there is a will there is a way

Nice. It's also fair to make some profit on a new model. Would think 3% off, not to include rebates would be a fair deal for everyone involved. I am sure I will get clubbed when the M4 comes out. I will probably have to pay $500 over invoice

[Jparker82]

Originally Posted by eunosracr

They wouldn't tell me the money factor which is the first thing i asked for and yet another reason i walked. He did say residual was on the high side due to the 4 being the "hot new coupe."

Yea looks like they are trying to get you both ways. Fair to hit you on sale price NOT fair to club on rate also.

[eunosracr]

Originally Posted by Jparker82

Yea looks like they are trying to get you both ways. Fair to hit you on sale price NOT fair to club on rate also.

Agreed !

[btbossman]

The reason I went with the 3 over waiting for the 4, was my dealer(who I have a good relationship with) said I would be paying 800+ for a 4 comparably equipped car to my 3 which Im paying 625 for. No money down at all. I couldent walk away from it. The sticker is right under 64k, and I think I got 2k or 2500 off. Im not gonna lie though the 4 looks sexy as hell, minus the crooked nike branding on the side.

[300hp]

Originally Posted by Jparker82

Nice. It's also fair to make some profit on a new model. Would think 3% off, not to include rebates would be a fair deal for everyone involved. I am sure I will get clubbed when the M4 comes out. I will probably have to pay $500 over invoice

Its also an M car, so maybe they don't do deals as much on those. At the end of the day you will be happy with the car either way, its an M4

[Weaselboy]

Originally Posted by eunosracr

Any idea when the 435i lease specials will be out? Below are the preliminary numbers i got from my local delaership. Note these numbers are at full MSRP so i walked....


I want to personally thank you for your inquiry and interest in our great selection of vehicles. Here is the
program available for the 435i Cp you asked for based on a list price of 53925 and a 500 Owner Loyalty
Rebate of 500.

Lease for 36 monts/10,000 miles per year and a credit score above 700.
0 down, inception fees due at start of 2149 is 722 + tax
2500 down, + inception fees due at start of 2080 is 649 + tax
5000 down, + inception fees due at start of 2004 is 576 + tax

Ignoring any rebates/loyalty etc... using a full on MSRP of 53,925 as the purchase price (cap cost) and a 66% residual with base money factor of .00127 I come up with a payment of $622 without tax.

Do not put any money down. If you have some cash you can put down seven extra security deposits (MSD) to get your MF rate down to .00078. This would cost you $4,550 up front that you would get back when you turn the car in. That would lower your payment to $579.

[eunosracr]

I will be selling my kidney to pick up an M4 a year after or two after it's introduced. The brand new engine makes me a little nervous. The hpfp issues i had with my brand new 135i scarred me for life and left a bad taste in my motuh about ordering a car with a brand new powertrain.

[eunosracr]

Originally Posted by Weaselboy

Ignoring any rebates/loyalty etc... using a full on MSRP of 53,925 as the purchase price (cap cost) and a 66% residual with base money factor of .00127 I come up with a payment of $622 without tax.

Do not put any money down. If you have some cash you can put down seven extra security deposits (MSD) to get your MF rate down to .00078. This would cost you $4,550 up front that you would get back when you turn the car in. That would lower your payment to $579.

Great info. This sounds totally doable !

[300hp]

Originally Posted by btbossman

The reason I went with the 3 over waiting for the 4, was my dealer(who I have a good relationship with) said I would be paying 800+ for a 4 comparably equipped car to my 3 which Im paying 625 for. No money down at all. I couldent walk away from it. The sticker is right under 64k, and I think I got 2k or 2500 off. Im not gonna lie though the 4 looks sexy as hell, minus the crooked nike branding on the side.

Are you sure about this? Your payments look seriously low based on MSRP, discount and zero down. Look at the math below, the car below is 10k less than yours and payments are $622 with no money down. I also don't think the 335i has a residual of 66%, more like 62%.

Originally Posted by Weaselboy

Ignoring any rebates/loyalty etc... using a full on MSRP of 53,925 as the purchase price (cap cost) and a 66% residual with base money factor of .00127 I come up with a payment of $622 without tax.

Do not put any money down. If you have some cash you can put down seven extra security deposits (MSD) to get your MF rate down to .00078. This would cost you $4,550 up front that you would get back when you turn the car in. That would lower your payment to $579.

[Jparker82]

Originally Posted by eunosracr

Agreed !

I will give you an example. I had a sales Mgr that let a customer walk because he couldn't smack him on the rate. Customer was willing to pay full sticker. The Mgr walked right after the customer. I don't believe in charging over MSRP unless it a super rare car like A GT 500 or something that is very limited production. When the dealer has to win a lottery to get the unit. But if its a normal production car it BS.

Dealer does have the right to make money on new models, hell they will be giving them away in 18 months. But waiting a few months will save you thousands. I've never paid sticker for a car in my life until my wife say an FJ Cruiser and had to have it. It was the first one in the state of Florida. My buddy that owned the dealership felt so bad he mailed me a check a few months later. I guess that's honor amongst thieves. LOL

[Jparker82]

Originally Posted by eunosracr

I will be selling my kidney to pick up an M4 a year after or two after it's introduced. The brand new engine makes me a little nervous. The hpfp issues i had with my brand new 135i scarred me for life and left a bad taste in my motuh about ordering a car with a brand new powertrain.

Yea new tech is scary. I just had a nightmare with my AH3. Three different dealers and 22 days to fix it. Sometimes it's not bad to wait a year. Lots of Tech=lots of bugs. I was SO buying a M3 until I found out about the AH3. I really wanted that V8...... Sounds so Great. But I have a problem with the OLD Style of anything. Knowing that a new model is around the corner made me get the new body. M3 is such a nice car. But all I can say is WOW with the performance and ride of my car. It's sort of crazy I never put more than 10k on a car, I usually buy 2 new cars a year. But I have not intention of getting rid of this until M4 is available.

[btbossman]

Originally Posted by 300hp

Are you sure about this? Your payments look seriously low based on MSRP, discount and zero down. Look at the math below, the car below is 10k less than yours and payments are $622 with no money down. I also don't think the 335i has a residual of 66%, more like 62%.

Yeah, thats why I couldn't stay away, and also why I mentioned we have a good relationship. I was coming from a lease on an x5m, and was going to do the m3 before we worked up the numbers. He had this fully loaded '13 335 that had been sitting on the lot and he wanted to get rid of it. After I drove it I couldn't say no.

[Frank_NJ]

I got a 2014 for invoice before lease loyalty and turn key cash do I got my car for $1000 under invoice when said and done!

[mntbiker]

Originally Posted by Frank_NJ

I got a 2014 for invoice before lease loyalty and turn key cash do I got my car for $1000 under invoice when said and done!

A 2014 F30, right? Not 435.

Still a great deal

[Frank_NJ]

Originally Posted by mntbiker

A 2014 F30, right? Not 435.

Still a great deal

F30 could have gotten a F32 for same if I wanted a coupe.