[hsk1610]

Originally Posted by re4ryu

One more parameter might be required for other people, on top of rustyminded's parameters:

ICM > 3000 Daten > IcmKod_B_AuskuppelnOK > aktiv

Before coding this, my revs would not go to idle. Is this parameter active in your ICM Rustyminded?

Did this help with the stalling that people have reported?

[re4ryu]

Originally Posted by hsk1610

Did this help with the stalling that people have reported?

I haven't stalled so far... gave it a test last night on the motorway and on a bunch of smaller roads.

The response time to applying throttle/brake also seems quite decent, i.e. it doesn't take a few seconds to reinstate engine power, its pretty much instantaneous for me. I'll be giving it another run after work today so i'll let you know if i encounter any issues!

[hsk1610]

Originally Posted by re4ryu

I haven't stalled so far... gave it a test last night on the motorway and on a bunch of smaller roads.

The response time to applying throttle/brake also seems quite decent, i.e. it doesn't take a few seconds to reinstate engine power, its pretty much instantaneous for me. I'll be giving it another run after work today so i'll let you know if i encounter any issues!

OK, thanks. Keep up posted.

[rustyminded]

Originally Posted by re4ryu

One more parameter might be required for other people, on top of rustyminded's parameters:

ICM > 3000 Daten > IcmKod_B_AuskuppelnOK > aktiv

Before coding this, my revs would not go to idle. Is this parameter active in your ICM Rustyminded?

Idk, I'll have to check. I found one was already on which was in EGS

[hsk1610]

Originally Posted by rustyminded

Idk, I'll have to check. I found one was already on which was in EGS

Was it this? This was already active in my vehicle:

EGS / 3000 / NIC_alt to aktiv

[re4ryu]

Originally Posted by rustyminded

Idk, I'll have to check. I found one was already on which was in EGS

Ah fine, that's ok no problem, only if possible I just saw on other forums people were having the same issue as me where it didn't work at all after coding all the EGS/Kombi parts, and only worked after coding that final ICM parameter. And yes i also noticed that NIC_alt was already enabled in EGS too, although don't know specifically what it's function is.

Originally Posted by hsk1610

OK, thanks. Keep up posted.

I just gave it another test run just now and can't notice any issues... Also i have a March 2014 UK F30 so i'm assuming it must have the correct hardware, so no overheating issues either, but it's been disabled by BMW as default for the UK so had to code it. The stalling issue appears to be most common for people with 2013 and older (regardless of HU_ENTRY/NBT being present). Even for cars bought around the 07/13 time where it should be fully compatible, it appears as though it wasn't fully implemented, perhaps some kind of firmware related issue?

[Tim@codemybimmer]

Originally Posted by re4ryu

The stalling issue appears to be most common for people with 2013 and older (regardless of HU_ENTRY/NBT being present). Even for cars bought around the 07/13 time where it should be fully compatible, it appears as though it wasn't fully implemented, perhaps some kind of firmware related issue?

From what I can gather, given the transmission is the same part number, could either be due to the DME or the GWS, since the GWS (Gear Shifter) has changed in part numbers numerous times starting 07/2013.

Anyone with a swapped out GWS (such as the SAT Shifter) can confirm if any stalling/drivetrain differences and had coded it to 07/2013 prior vehicle?

Only thing I'd rule out is firmware, given that I-Step updates are available and even with them, do not fully support. Therefore has to be some sort of hardware.

[hsk1610]

Just wanted to see if anyone was able to make any progress on getting sailing to work on the pre-2014 F30's.

[tjlees]

Might try this and explains why the manual talks about it but I never managed to get it to work - its disabled for Blighty

Anyone one know the reason why the UK's 3 series coasting/sailing function has been disabled? insurance worries? highway code saying you must always be in control of your vehicle? No use for uk roads?

[russellg]

I'm trying to enable this also on my UK Spec F31 11/13 build.

I don't think the reason that its not available in the UK is a legal or legislative issue, I have a colleague with a UK sourced VW Passat All Track of circa Jan/Feb 2013 build date (he took delivery of it in March 2013) and his car has the coasting/sailing function enabled.

There is obviously a reason why BMW have not enabled it for the UK market but is certainly available on at least one Volkswagen. His car is a 2.0TDI with Auto box.

On another note is there a way to categorically tell on the F3X whether it has the transmission cooler? I.e. what to look for physically or electronically?

As I say, my car is a MY13 (11/13 build) but is close to the changeover to a MY14, for example it has ASD which is apparently a MY14 only module.

Thanks,

[KGB_123_99]

Most automatics in F30 (but not all) have an oil cooler installed. It looks very similar to the engine oil cooler you have beside your oil filter and is found just behind the radiator on the driver side.

The problem with sailing is not that there is no oil cooler, but that the transmission is not circulating enough oil during sailing. In pre-2014 models, the automatic transmission part is different (realOEM). I can only imagine that ZF added an oil pump to keep the oil circulating even when the car is coasting. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to find any details online and the only thing I know for a fact is that the transmission part number changed.

I would shy away from coding anything on the EGS besides sports transmission, for the simple reason that this functionality existed in pre-2014 models so it should work just fine. Transmissions are expensive to repair and if you're overheating yours, the effects won't be seen until you run out of warranty

[Steveo]

Just to add that if it stalls during driving, you could lose the power steering and ability to steer!

[dangerous_al]

I have an LCI 330i (July 2015 build) and I can confirm that coasting is enabled as I noticed it kicking in several times on a trip this weekend, mostly at slower speeds on motorways such as in road works with a 50mph limit

[//M]

NIC is neutral Idle control... it has to do with Torque converter engagement when you're at a stop. Basically it disengage's the TC when your not moving to save gas.

It can be disabled if you don't like the slight lag when pressing the gas from a dead stop.. alough that hasn't really been noticeable since the E90. (Which has NIC as well)

[V4LKyR]

Hello all,

I have an F20. 118i 170HP with M-Sport package, build date June/2013.

I've tried coding this sailing mode, but it doesn't seem to work. I've coded all the necessary elements shown on here, I even got the "coasting" option in ECO PRO settings and it's turned on. But during my tests, my revs didn't get any idle. Transmisson was always engaged to the engine. Tried speeds from 50 km/h to 120 km/h (31,07 mph to 74,58 mph)

I am 100% sure that I coded these:

EGS / 3000 / SEGELN to aktiv
EGS / 3000 / POCHEN to aktiv
EGS / 3000 / NIC_alt to aktiv

Kombi>3000 Anzeige_Konfigration>SEGELN_Enable>aktive (THIS OPTION SHOWS UNDER "3003 FZG_Ausstattung, 10" and yes, it's AKTIV)

HU_NBT>3000 HMI>EFF_DYN_SAILING>aktive (THIS OPTION IS UNDER "HU_ENTRY" and yes, it's AKTIV )

ICM>3000 Daten>C_Segeln_vorhanden>enable
ICM > 3000 Daten > IcmKod_B_AuskuppelnOK > aktiv

So, what might be the issue is? Like I said, I can see the "coasting" option in ECO PRO settings, even though I have CIC (the smallest screen)

Thanks in advance.

[bmwdd]

I have the same issue, coded but no effect.

[russellg]

I have since sold the car but I successfully managed to code coasting on my previous F31 11/13 build. I only put it on temporarily to see how it worked, I know that there was potential issues enabling it on a transmission that may not have additional/auxiliary oil cooler pump etc.

I only had it enabled for a couple of days and in any case before I sold the car I VO coded every module back to default. However at the time I noted down the values below, which are in line with above.

Coasting HU_NBT 3000 SAILING_COUNTER aktiv
Coasting HU_NBT 3000 EFF_DYN_SAILING aktiv
Coasting EGS 3000 Segeln aktiv
Coasting EGS 3000 POCHEN aktiv
Coasting ICM 3000 C_Segeln_vorhanden enable
Coasting ICM 3000 IcmKod_B_AuskuppelnOK aktiv
Coasting kombi 3003 SEGELN_ENABLE aktiv

[stormlv]

It may be a bit off topic, but in a recent visit to a tuner, he told me that the "eco-coasting" feature is not something to be used too often.

His dad's BMW had a lot of issues after prolonged use that even the dealership told him to stop using it.

[russellg]

I forgot to mention that it was HU_NBT not HU_ENTRY.

[Almaretto]

Originally Posted by stormlv

It may be a bit off topic, but in a recent visit to a tuner, he told me that the "eco-coasting" feature is not something to be used too often.

His dad's BMW had a lot of issues after prolonged use that even the dealership told him to stop using it.

Why would it be a factory setting on my car then?

[stormlv]

Originally Posted by Almaretto

Why would it be a factory setting on my car then?

Launch control is a factory setting on my car... What do you think would happen if I used it every week?

[V4LKyR]

Guys, let's go back to the topic.

I just want to know why this coasting feature doesn't work even though I've coded all the necessary codes. What might be the cause?