[okolisr]

BMW's initial F30 official reveal press release clearly stated that an "M Sport Aerodynamics Package" (presumably the front bumper, rear bumper, and side skirts only) would ALSO BE AVAILABLE SEPARATELY from the full "M Sport Package". BMW has done this in the past with the E90 3 series, at least in Europe.

Can we find out if this standalone aerodynamics package be available in the USA? And if available, can it be ordered in conjunction with any line and in any F30 color, not just one of the limited M-Sport colors?

[pcbrew]

Originally Posted by okolisr

BMW's initial F30 official reveal press release clearly stated that an "M Sport Aerodynamics Package" (presumably the front bumper, rear bumper, and side skirts only) would ALSO BE AVAILABLE SEPARATELY from the full "M Sport Package". BMW has done this in the past with the E90 3 series, at least in Europe.

Can we find out if this standalone aerodynamics package be available in the USA? And if available, can it be ordered in conjunction with any line and in any F30 color, not just one of the limited M-Sport colors?

Would be nice, but I don't think so...

Below text is from the press release. The key point is that they lump the cosmetic parts together into the aero package and say the M suspension is available separately. It is the passive M suspension is what you get with the Sport line.

Dynamic options: M Sport package, Adaptive M Sport suspension, sports automatic transmission and BMW 3 Series xDrive.
Enthusiasts will welcome the further features that are available to enhance the dynamic driving qualities of the new BMW 3 Series and give them a distinctive visual dimension as well. The M Sport package is designed for this very purpose and has been developed specifically for this model series. It includes the lowered M Sport suspension, featuring a 10 millimetre (0.4 in.) drop in ride height, which works with firmer suspension and damping as well as harder anti-roll bars. Also featured are 18 or 19-inch M alloy wheels. The luxurious package is completed by an M aerodynamics package featuring special body parts, and by chrome tailpipes, exclusive exterior paintwork and interior trim to match. The M aerodynamics package and M Sport suspension can also be specified separately. Also optionally available for the new BMW 3 Series is an Adaptive M Sport suspension with electronically controlled damping. Based on incoming information about body and wheel acceleration, lateral and longitudinal acceleration, vehicle speed and steering wheel position, an electronic control unit adapts the damper mapping to the road surface and driving situation. At the same time the driver can use the Driving Experience Control switch to vary the basic suspension characteristics between more comfortable or sportier settings

[okolisr]

Respectfully, I'm going to defend my original interpretation; otherwise BMW has their "and"s and commas in all the wrong places. Here is the quote:

"The luxurious package [the M Sport Package] is completed by an M aerodynamics package [no comma] featuring special body parts, [stop]

and by chrome tailpipes, exclusive exterior paintwork and interior trim to match. The M aerodynamics package and M Sport suspension can also be specified separately."

The "chrome tailpipes, exclusive exterior paintwork and interior trim to match" are not part of the M AERODYNAMICS PACKAGE, they are part of the M SPORT PACKAGE.

This is apparently nothing new, because BMW offered the aerodynamics-only package on the E90 also (although it was news to me when I read the press release).

[bmrm396]

Originally Posted by pcbrew

I would like to know more details of the standard intrument panel vs. 6WA - Instrument cluster with extended contents that you get with Nav/Tech Package.

I want to know what I give up there if I opt out of Nav+HUD.

i second this ... is 6WA available on its own without getting NAV/HUD?

i really would never use HUD so im struggling payin 2500 for really just an 8" screen

[m630]

Originally Posted by okolisr

BMW's initial F30 official reveal press release clearly stated that an "M Sport Aerodynamics Package" (presumably the front bumper, rear bumper, and side skirts only) would ALSO BE AVAILABLE SEPARATELY from the full "M Sport Package". BMW has done this in the past with the E90 3 series, at least in Europe.

Can we find out if this standalone aerodynamics package be available in the USA? And if available, can it be ordered in conjunction with any line and in any F30 color, not just one of the limited M-Sport colors?

Until we find out what the US version of the M sport pack will include, its hard to say what may be possible. I dont believe BMW NA has ever offered just the body kit in the US though and I dont think it will be the case now, as they would likely want to build a package for a set price to differentiate the model from the Sportsline. Im sure though if you really want the kit, once the M sport option is available in the US, you would be able to buy it yourself from your service center and have it installed, and in this case, you wont have to worry about the colors as you would have it sprayed to match your vehicle.
I dont see them offering it from a BMW dealer in the US though in all colors, that defeats the purpose really, BMW NA keeps the costs down by limiting options and colors, so just think of what it would take for them to have to paint a "custom" M kit for a car that is not being specified as an M sport pack. While they do have these types of individual options in Europe, they pay alot to have this flexibilty, so I dont think its going to happen in the US anytime soon, if ever.

[m630]

Originally Posted by bmrm396

i second this ... is 6WA available on its own without getting NAV/HUD?

i really would never use HUD so im struggling payin 2500 for really just an 8" screen

You know, the thing about HUD is, once you start using it, you may never want another car without it! Atleast the M version which makes you feel like your in a fighter plane cockpit versus a car. While it wont be the same as the HUD Mview, I still think that HUD is a great option for the 3er, and I think I'll have to order it on any future car, its really useful if you drive hard and want to keep your eyes on the road. Now if we could get the M view with the tach on a non-M, that would be the best

[southlight]

Originally Posted by okolisr

BMW's initial F30 official reveal press release clearly stated that an "M Sport Aerodynamics Package" (presumably the front bumper, rear bumper, and side skirts only) would ALSO BE AVAILABLE SEPARATELY from the full "M Sport Package". BMW has done this in the past with the E90 3 series, at least in Europe.

Can we find out if this standalone aerodynamics package be available in the USA? And if available, can it be ordered in conjunction with any line and in any F30 color, not just one of the limited M-Sport colors?

The M aerodynamics pack is most certainly available as a part of M Sport pack only. The press release may be worded a bit confusing.

Originally Posted by bmrm396

i second this ... is 6WA available on its own without getting NAV/HUD?

i really would never use HUD so im struggling payin 2500 for really just an 8" screen

You only get 6WA when you order technology package (ZTP), so the answer is no.


Best regards,
south

[M3111Z]

Jason, thanks for looking into these questions for us. I have a few more:

1. I've read in C/D that comfort is the "default" driving mode. Does this mean that you have to reset it each time you restart the car, like turning off the auto stop/start feature, or will it retain the last setting?

2. How do the different adaptive suspension settings compare to the fixed suspensions (i.e., is the adaptive comfort setting softer than the base suspension, or is the adaptive sport setting firmer than the fixed sport suspension)?

3. I'd like to get a definitive answer on the front license plate holder. Is it definitely a separate piece? Is it dealer installed (i.e., can it be left off)? If you do leave it off, would there be any visible mounting holes in the bumper?

4. Are the rear turn signals red or amber?

Thanks!!

[Vervain]

Does anyone know why the panoramic roof is not available on the BMW sedans (unless I'm mistaken)? Any plans for the F30?

Thanks.

[ede92]

Who are the new F30 transmissions manufactured by?

[m630]

Originally Posted by Anodite10

Does anyone know why the panoramic roof is not available on the BMW sedans (unless I'm mistaken)? Any plans for the F30?

Thanks.

I believe only the SAVs get this option, I have it on my X3 but have not heard or seen it on any sedan, they get the normal sunroof option, afaik.

[E90Fleet]

Originally Posted by ede92

Who are the new F30 transmissions manufactured by?

F30 335i
Manual: ZF
Auto: ZF

F30 328i
Manual: Getrag
Auto: ZF

F30 320d
Manual: ZF
Auto: ZF

[ede92]

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

F30 335i
Manual: ZF
Auto: ZF

F30 328i
Manual: Getrag
Auto: ZF

F30 320d
Manual: ZF
Auto: ZF

Thank you!! So this is good news for the 328?

[E90Fleet]

Originally Posted by ede92

Thank you!! So this is good news for the 328?

Yes

[pcbrew]

Can you expand on why Getrag 6MT in 328i is good news.
Is this better than 335i ZF 6MT?

[asus389]

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

The S001 RFT version became available through BMW with the launch of the new F20 1 Series.

It may take some time before they are available through normal tire dealers.
BMW would be getting most of the production at the moment to keep up with the F30 launch and F20 launch

Not all Bridgestone factories are fully online with the S001 RFT and untill they are supply may be limited
I believe the South African Bridgestone factory will switch from the RE050 to the S001 for the Rosslyn BMW factory by the end of February. Till then they will be importing all the Bridgestone sizes

Do we know what sizes the s001 RFT will be available in? As far as I have seen the F30 doesn't use the same sizes as the e90...

Also, the info about the Pirelli Cinturato P7 is here:

http://www.pirelli.com/tyre/ww/en/ca...turato_p7.html

Also any word on a F30 320d in the USA?

[ede92]

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

Yes

I think my 2011 328i convertible has a GM auto transmission. Whatever it is, it can be rough in the cold at low speeds.

[unintelligible]

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

F30 328i
Manual: Getrag

Hoo boy, I hope this Getrag 6MT isn't at all related to the Getrag MT-82 that's in the 2011+ Mustang GT. That transmission is a notchy, grindy pile of crap.

[Vervain]

Originally Posted by m630

I believe only the SAVs get this option, I have it on my X3 but have not heard or seen it on any sedan, they get the normal sunroof option, afaik.

Thanks
Great I wonder why BMW does not offer this on their sedans!

[E90Fleet]

Originally Posted by asus389

Do we know what sizes the s001 RFT will be available in? As far as I have seen the F30 doesn't use the same sizes as the e90...

Also, the info about the Pirelli Cinturato P7 is here:

http://www.pirelli.com/tyre/ww/en/ca...turato_p7.html

Also any word on a F30 320d in the USA?

The F20 1 Series has the S001 in the E90 size 225/45/17

F30:

17"
Pirelli CintuRatu P7 RSC (225/50/17 and 255/45/17)
Bridgestone Potenza S001 RFT (225/50/17 and 255/45/17)

18"
Pirelli CintuRatu P7 RSC ( 225/45/18 and 255/40/18 )
Bridgestone Potenza S001 RFT ( 225/45/18 and 255/40/18 )
Goodyear Efficient Grip ROF ( 225/45/18 and 255/40/18 )

19"
Continental Sport Contact 5 SSR (225/40/19 and 255/35/19 )
Pirelli P Zero RSC (225/40/19 and 255/35/19 )
Bridgestone Potenza S001 RFT (225/40/19 and 255/35/19 )

20"
Dunlop Sport Maxx GT ROF (225/35/20 and 255/30/20 )
Pirelli P Zero RSC (225/35/20 and 255/30/20 )



320d only listed for non-US markets at the moment

[E90Fleet]

Originally Posted by unintelligible

Hoo boy, I hope this Getrag 6MT isn't at all related to the Getrag MT-82 that's in the 2011+ Mustang GT. That transmission is a notchy, grindy pile of crap.

Getrag have made many good BMW gearboxes over the decades, including ones for M models

[E90Fleet]

Originally Posted by pcbrew

Can you expand on why Getrag 6MT in 328i is good news.
Is this better than 335i ZF 6MT?

Getrag is a good make BMW have used for a long time.
Never said its better than a ZF box

My "Yes" included that the Auto is a ZF unit and not a GM unit