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      10-26-2016, 05:46 PM   #1
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10k on Michelin AS/3?

Went in for a rotate and balance on my car yesterday and the guy at discount tire told me my rear tires were already down to 5/32s on the treadmill depth. I got them put on last Halloween, so I didn't even get a full year out of them. I have a 328d, so I don't believe my car is heavier than a 335i, so I don't think the weight is an issue. I haven't tracked the car at all, and he said that it was even wear all the way across the tire, so that just leads me to think that they actually did wear out that fast. Anyone else run into this before who has ran these tires?
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Went in for a rotate and balance on my car yesterday and the guy at discount tire told me my rear tires were already down to 5/32s on the treadmill depth. I got them put on last Halloween, so I didn't even get a full year out of them. I have a 328d, so I don't believe my car is heavier than a 335i, so I don't think the weight is an issue. I haven't tracked the car at all, and he said that it was even wear all the way across the tire, so that just leads me to think that they actually did wear out that fast. Anyone else run into this before who has ran these tires?
A lot of reviews for ultra high performance all season tires like the Michelins and Pirellis are similar. 10k-12k is not uncommon. I just started running the Pirelli P Zero all season Plus and don't expect them to last beyond my lease end in about a year.
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Went in for a rotate and balance on my car yesterday and the guy at discount tire told me my rear tires were already down to 5/32s on the treadmill depth. I got them put on last Halloween, so I didn't even get a full year out of them. I have a 328d, so I don't believe my car is heavier than a 335i, so I don't think the weight is an issue. I haven't tracked the car at all, and he said that it was even wear all the way across the tire, so that just leads me to think that they actually did wear out that fast. Anyone else run into this before who has ran these tires?
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A lot of reviews for ultra high performance all season tires like the Michelins and Pirellis are similar. 10k-12k is not uncommon. I just started running the Pirelli P Zero all season Plus and don't expect them to last beyond my lease end in about a year.
I was able to get about 25-30k miles out of my OE Bridgestone S001, and I'm at about 20k miles on my MPSS with a bunch of life left. How are you going through those decent all seasons at 10-12k miles?
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A lot of reviews for ultra high performance all season tires like the Michelins and Pirellis are similar. 10k-12k is not uncommon. I just started running the Pirelli P Zero all season Plus and don't expect them to last beyond my lease end in about a year.
I got 45k out of my factory P7's, and I drove on those far worse than I have the Michelin's. My only problem with it is that they have a 45k tread wear warranty, so I at least assumed I'd get longer than a year out of them. If this is what I can expect out of running a staggered set up, I'm going back down to a square 18 set up.
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A lot of reviews for ultra high performance all season tires like the Michelins and Pirellis are similar. 10k-12k is not uncommon. I just started running the Pirelli P Zero all season Plus and don't expect them to last beyond my lease end in about a year.
I got 45k out of my factory P7's, and I drove on those far worse than I have the Michelin's. My only problem with it is that they have a 45k tread wear warranty, so I at least assumed I'd get longer than a year out of them. If this is what I can expect out of running a staggered set up, I'm going back down to a square 18 set up.
Could be an air pressure issue going from run flats to standard tires.
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Went in for a rotate and balance on my car yesterday and the guy at discount tire told me my rear tires were already down to 5/32s on the treadmill depth. I got them put on last Halloween, so I didn't even get a full year out of them. I have a 328d, so I don't believe my car is heavier than a 335i, so I don't think the weight is an issue. I haven't tracked the car at all, and he said that it was even wear all the way across the tire, so that just leads me to think that they actually did wear out that fast. Anyone else run into this before who has ran these tires?
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A lot of reviews for ultra high performance all season tires like the Michelins and Pirellis are similar. 10k-12k is not uncommon. I just started running the Pirelli P Zero all season Plus and don't expect them to last beyond my lease end in about a year.
I was able to get about 25-30k miles out of my OE Bridgestone S001, and I'm at about 20k miles on my MPSS with a bunch of life left. How are you going through those decent all seasons at 10-12k miles?
Same. My Conti RFTs have 30k on them and still have about 6-7/32 tread left. That's from a square setup. Maybe the combo of ultra high performance rubber and a staggered setup is the issue? If psi or or alignment were contributing, I would expect some uneven wear, but OP says it was even. Any other changes from stock OP? 10k is pretty low, but again, it seems a number of folks have the same problem with these. That is, I don't necessarily think it's an isolated problem here.
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Same. My Conti RFTs have 30k on them and still have about 6-7/32 tread left. That's from a square setup. Maybe the combo of ultra high performance rubber and a staggered setup is the issue? If psi or or alignment were contributing, I would expect some uneven wear, but OP says it was even. Any other changes from stock OP? 10k is pretty low, but again, it seems a number of folks have the same problem with these. That is, I don't necessarily think it's an isolated problem here.
The only actual change was from an 18 squared up to OEM 19 staggered. I had a fresh alignment done the day after I got the tires put on, and I've always kept them inflated, roughly 1-2psi over since they are a lower profile, other than that everything is stock. I don't track the car, nor do I really drive hard on the tires, it's more of a highway cruiser being a diesel.
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this is so, any high performance tire will wear faster, their compounds are a lot more soft in order to make the tires stick well, there are other tires you can get if you want them to last longer but their compound will be a lot harder and they will not come close when it comes to stickiness
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I'm replacing my S001 (31k miles) with the PS A/S 3 (Thank you Costco). There's no reason why you should only get 10k miles.

BTW the tread warranty is halved on staggered setups.
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I have gotten around 40k both times, 10k seems too low unless they have never been rotated
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I have gotten around 40k both times, 10k seems too low unless they have never been rotated
They can only get rotated side to side being staggered, but they only got rotated and balanced twice. I know that say, the PSS would be averaged around this, but I figured going to an all season, I'd get a little longer life out of them.
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I see your from Houston.... our roads would probably explain the quick wear

I just did the AS3 255/40-18 squared, I plan on rotations from Discount every 5k.
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I see your from Houston.... our roads would probably explain the quick wear

I just did the AS3 255/40-18 squared, I plan on rotations from Discount every 5k.
That could be one thing, but with the fronts being down less than half tread as well, I feel it may be the tires.
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