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There should be no need to balance wheels. Sounds like your dealer is trying to squeeze you. if they won't include it, take it to an alignment shop to pay half that. They will probably do a better job anyway. |
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05-16-2013, 08:42 AM | #377 |
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I paid $110 for alignment, that's in addition to the 7 hour install.
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I manually did.
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If you're spending the $$ for an OEM setup, get it installed by the dealer. Otherwise, just buy the coilover options from HR or Bilstein (whatever is on tirerack.com for our F30's) and have it installed by an aftermarket specialist. The M Performance suspension isn't the be all end all, it's an OEM option that lets you enjoy your car more with the OEM warranty. Why save 25% when 5 years down the line, if the shocks need to be replaced for whatever reason, you'll be stuck with the bill?
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my understanding is, like with all BMW parts, its the parts that are warrentied. not the work, no matter if its done at dealer. i remember a friend who paid for performance brakes on his e90, something went wrong but BMW honored it no problem... those were installed elsewhere, didnt matter.
so i guess in short, if he wants a total peace of mind, do it at the dealer. but if hes whining about savin some change, take it elsewhere - the warrenty will still be honored on those parts if something breaks. (now if those parts where INCORRECTLY INSTALLED, thats an entirely different story) SOMEONE CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG HERE
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The parts, work, labor, all of it is warranted for the life of the warranty on the car. So for my car, since I have a 6 year warranty, my M Performance parts, including labor associated with replacing the parts, is covered until Dec 2018. They've already had to use it, when I installed the suspension, they put the wrong springs on, and covered the labor to correct the problem....
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Thanks guys for your advice, I appreciate both points of view.
My BMW Dealer is doing the install today. Dropped her off this morning. I know I can save some money with an outside mechanic but I wanted the peace of mind. If something were to go wrong instillation wise in the future, i'm sure BMW would take care of it because they installed it. Regarding the parts warranty, I believe they come with a 2 Years/Unlimited mile warranty instead of 4 years because I didn't originally install at port. |
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You will get the remainder of your new car warranty with those parts - so if you have 3 years and 10 months left of the 4 year, SINCE you are dealer installing it, you'll receive that. Works out nicely!
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for people thinking the dealer should install the performance suspension in order to retain warranty, you guys must not know how dealers work.
They will never replace your shocks, or any suspension component for that matter since they will say that you caused the damage. Shocks/ springs don't just "fail" they only fail if they are exposed to some sort of heavy force ie. a pothole, and BMW would never cover damage due to a pothole. I once hit a bad pothole and my control arms bent, that sure as hell is not under warranty, same goes for if your shock is bent, bmw would not fix it. Plus, when BMW repairs suspension they replace almost everything, thats their protocol. I remember when i had my bent control arm, the dealer quoted to replace sway bars, control arms on both sides, the knuckle, etc. When it comes to a warranty claim for an amount that high, it will NEVER fly. Maybe, just maybe if BMW's protocol wasn't to replace so many other suspension parts if one part was damaged, then maybe i could see them warrantying the part. Last edited by infinitigor; 05-16-2013 at 08:06 PM.. |
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Shivas - i'm surprised you had to pay extra for alignment. I guess now I know why I'm stuck paying $180/hr. Instructions indicate 6.5 hrs to install suspension and directs tech to perform the following post install: - On cars with active steering (AFS) the steering angle sensors must be aligned using the BMW diagnostic system via the service function (SBT) - Carry out chassis measurement and adjust so it is identical to the Sports chassis settings data in SA 226/704 - Adjust the headlights (ISTA No. 6 310 004) Quote:
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I believe the point is more along the lines of something else going wrong with the way it was installed or something else being negatively affected on the vehicle due to lack of knowledge or simple negligence. The way I see it, if I paid BMW $50K for the car AND also piled on more $$ in parts/labor, I'm in a better position to have it rectified should something go wrong. I believe Shivas has proven this to all of us after going through his springs fiasco. |
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Received a call from my dealer late today, M Performance Suspension is on and car is ready to pick up tomorrow! I'll post pictures.
I have been riding on H&R Sports and ill give my honest opinion on the driving characteristic differences between the two. I paid $125.00/hr x 7 hours + alignment. |
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And suspension parts (struts) can and do fail in the northeast due to excessive wear from horrible roads, salt exposure, and/or the potential of a poorly manufactured strut. Try getting an aftermarket company to cover a manufacturers defect...even if they DO, you're stuck with the labor bill. Not the case with a bmw part. Regardless, your money and peace of mind, not mine...
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bmw will have a myriad of excuses not to cover a suspension part, and all those reasons you listed would warrant them not covering it. I am happy BMW did you right by fixing your suspension issues, but your issues had nothing to do with the part failing, but to do with wrong parts / confusion etc. Suspension components are considered WEAR & TEAR, and are not covered under any warranty. Unless you could somehow PROVE that the defect was their fault. Last edited by infinitigor; 05-17-2013 at 08:53 AM.. |
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I am not being defensive or inflammatory, I'm just trying to get you to understand the scope of BMW's warranty. Suspension is is a wear and tear item. it is exposed to the elements as you mentioned, bad roads, salt etc. |
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M Performance Suspension - impressions
M Performance Suspension is installed!
Entering the car, I immediately noticed the difference. Amazing! Feels firm and planted but not at all harsh with little to no body role. I'll report back when I have had more time with it but so far i'm in love! This is how the sport package should have come from BMW. |
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Looking awesome, nice stance! I completely agree, this is what a "sports" suspension is, not that wimpy rendition standard on the M Sport.
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of ALL the things I've added, in order of sheer joy (and bang for buck): 1. $1200 I spent on PPK 2. ~$2200 on the M Performance Suspension 3. $2500 on the brakes. So if I was being tight with the $$, I'd skip #3 if I were you and just do the PPK.
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