[HusaBerger]

Lease is up in 3 months
This would be my 4th 3 series in a row
Everything has been good until now
Why add these STUPID lines and take away customization option?
Don't want ugly red stitching on my seat
Why BMW why?

[antremo]

Originally Posted by lem144

Also kind of disappointed in the number of exterior colors available.

I agree...both lack of Montego blue exterior and 2-tone oyster interior are pushing me to not buy this car...

[antremo]

Originally Posted by gator15

I agree, that is pretty awful.

exactly...I mean you take one look and go...seriously...someone got paid to do that

[antremo]

Originally Posted by Questforpower

That's true... but the M sport package also has an incredibly hideous steering wheel that I couldn't live with.

Also the price differential may not be worth it solely for a wood trim.

My Sport with dark wood is close to a win...but that DAMN STEERING WHEEL!!!! WTF lol

[dezzydevil]

When will the new colors be included in the Configurator? I really want the Metallic Liquid Blue.

[mapezzul]

The stupidest thing they did was force people into up buying- this is not an Accord buyer.

Can't get sport seats without ZSL.
No sports suspension without ZSL
Can't get xenons on 328 without the ZPP (I don't want a moon roof, or the rest of that crap.... $4500 for headlights... give me a break!)
No wood in ZSL
Have to get HUD with Nav.

You get limited color combinations now and wait for it.... can't get Letherette in anything but a base or sports car (red stitching required).

Unless you go absolute base model in this thing you are getting hosed.

Wait for 2013 models at least then there is the MSport, people need to speak with their wallets.

The car is sensational don't get me wrong but due to the packaging it is lacking.

The scary thing is that the ATS will be cheaper and have more standard content and I have a feeling they are going to sell boatloads if they spend money advertising as the car looks good on paper.

[mapezzul]

Originally Posted by antremo

My Sport with dark wood is close to a win...but that DAMN STEERING WHEEL!!!! WTF lol

You can't do sport with wood....

Why is everyone hating that wheel? I don't get it. It has the same controls as every other model and the three spoke is retro modern (throw back to E30)

[mapezzul]

Originally Posted by pcbrew

Absolutely on Xenons. I hope they make them standard in 1-2 years or do away with the unnecessary ZPP requirement.
BTW, this also really only affects Base & Sport Line buyers, since they force you into ZPP anyway if you get Modern or Luxury.

Not so much on Tech Package. Nav is usually ~$2K, so for $550 more you get HUD, so, if I wanted Nav, I would be happy to pay a little extra for HUD.
FYI, the same HUD is a $1300 option on the F10.

The F30 comes standard with iDrive now so Nav should be cheaper than the price point in the E90. One could be harsh and say they are making money twice.

[Zirenz2006]

Originally Posted by sekitori

I thought I might be interested in the Modern line, but after seeing photos of the interior, I've changed my mind. An all oyster interior looks perfectly okay. So does an all black interior. But I think that mixing the two together looks ridiculous. Instead, I'm now looking at the Luxury line or the base F30. When you order a black interior on either of them, that's what you get--not a two tone monstrosity.

The great Hollywood mogul Samuel Goldwyn was famous for using phrases that seemed to make no sense and were laughable. But even tough they sounded absurd, they often really did make sense. After seeing the Modern interior, I repeat one of those phrases--"include me out".

The black interior with oyster dash and wheel is just vile. Who looked at that and approved it?!?!?

[M.Suka]

WOW! I cant believe the difference in final gear ratio between the automatic (3.15) and the manual (3.91) it use to be the other way around for e46 cars this new auto tranny must be great, I can only imagine how much faster it would be with a rear diff from a manual 328.

[pcbrew]

Originally Posted by mapezzul

The F30 comes standard with iDrive now so Nav should be cheaper than the price point in the E90. One could be harsh and say they are making money twice.

True, I hadn't thought of that.

Of course if you figure the HUD is $1300 on F10, then Nav & bigger screen is only $1250 now, so the price has gone down in a sense. Bundling is a way to keep keep Nav price inflated.

[southlight]

Originally Posted by mapezzul

You can't do sport with wood....

You can do M Sport with wood trim.

Originally Posted by mapezzul

The F30 comes standard with iDrive now so Nav should be cheaper than the price point in the E90. One could be harsh and say they are making money twice.

Not harsh but wrong. Nav is way cheaper in the F30 than it was in the E90. And in the F10 (which too comes standard with iDrive) Nav and HUD are $1,900 and $1,300 respectively. F30 tech pack is a bargain by comparison.


Best regards,
south

[princefemi]

Originally Posted by mapezzul

The stupidest thing they did was force people into up buying- this is not an Accord buyer.

Can't get sport seats without ZSL.
No sports suspension without ZSL
Can't get xenons on 328 without the ZPP (I don't want a moon roof, or the rest of that crap.... $4500 for headlights... give me a break!)
No wood in ZSL
Have to get HUD with Nav.

You get limited color combinations now and wait for it.... can't get Letherette in anything but a base or sports car (red stitching required).

Unless you go absolute base model in this thing you are getting hosed.

Wait for 2013 models at least then there is the MSport, people need to speak with their wallets.

The car is sensational don't get me wrong but due to the packaging it is lacking.

The scary thing is that the ATS will be cheaper and have more standard content and I have a feeling they are going to sell boatloads if they spend money advertising as the car looks good on paper.

After reading your post, I researched the ATS a bit and would definitely consider it when it is time to replace my car if Cadillac does the following:

1) Significantly undercut BMW pricing by say 10K
2) Make an ATS-V model that kicks as just like the CTS-V kicks the asses of almost all the cars in its segment
3) If they can bulge out the fenders on the ATS-V model to give it some curves and a broader/more bulldog-ish stance, they would totally have a winner with me. Right now the car looks too angular and narrow to me.

As far as handling is concerned, if the ATS ends up well sorted out just like the CTS, then I am very sure it will be fine. As far as tech is concerned, GM tech suite is arguably just as good or even better than what BMW offers, so I don't think I will be missing out in that department either. I guess if I went with a Cadillac I would be missing out on the prestige of driving a BMW, but all of that went out of the window for me when I moved to California and noticed BMWs are as ubiquitous as a Toyota Camry.

While I love my E90, I think they have gone overboard with the pricing. They are forcing people to spend more than they want to with their stupid packaging schemes, and is starting to seem to me like there may be better options out there. If Cadillac can come out with the good stuff, I would jump at the opportunity to buy USA again

[ska///235i]

wtf, no xenon headlights on 328 unless you get premium pkg
even a 328 will load up to $40-50k....Fruck You BMW
time to search for another brand

[bluespeed117]

So, I built the 328i the way I wanted built and a 335i with the same intent. Apparently they 335i is only a little above 2 grand more than the 328i with my settings. Why wouldnt i just shell out the extra cash for the 335? Something doesnt seem right with the configurator.

[ska///235i]

there are shit load of cars out there under $50k that will rape a 3 series....sorry to bring it to you this way

Originally Posted by SamS

What other $50K car drives like (i.e RWD), and looks nicer than a 3-series?

There is an obvious reason why a loaded Honda Accord is $30K and a 328i is close to $50K. Just drive them back to back.

And I'm not being snobbish, I own and Accord, too

[justinnum1]

Originally Posted by ska325xi

there are shit load of cars out there under $50k that will rape a 3 series....sorry to bring it to you this way

start naming them, and im not just talking speed and bhp, what car under 50K offers the driving experience the 3series does? i'd love to hear this "shit load"

[Remonster]

Originally Posted by justinnum1

start naming them, and im not just talking speed and bhp, what car under 50K offers the driving experience the 3series does? i'd love to hear this "shit load"

There isn't a single one, that guy is insane.

[jgrasty]

Originally Posted by justinnum1

start naming them, and im not just talking speed and bhp, what car under 50K offers the driving experience the 3series does? i'd love to hear this "shit load"

Yep, waiting...

[ska///235i]

S4, vette, camaro, cts, (cayman msrp lil over $50k)... to name a few

you can get a nicely used M3, M5 for under $50k...comon guys, lets face it 3 series is not the only great car out there

before we starta flame war....we were talking about the 328 coming close to $45k-$50k...thats insane

Originally Posted by justinnum1

start naming them, and im not just talking speed and bhp, what car under 50K offers the driving experience the 3series does? i'd love to hear this "shit load"

[Yobyot]

Originally Posted by Chips335d

What a joke! These 'lines' are the biggest fail for the F30. Won't be buying a new 3-series period unless they admit this was a mistake and correct it. Sad really, BMW used to have the most options out of all the other Germans in regards to exterior color, leather color and interior trim.

Who on earth thought this was a good idea?

I guess I'll be holding on to my E90 LCI and remember the good ole days when I could order whatever color I wanted, whatever interior I wanted, whatever trim I wanted and whatever specific options I wanted.

FAIL FAIL FAIL.

Oh, yes, BMW NA is going to issue a press release admitting that the lines strategy was a mistake.

[Vector Pilot]

I agree with other comments, doesn't require a lot of effort for the numbers to roll up. I'm not getting what I need but I'm getting a lot stuff. While on topic, the configurator is acting funky, could it be I'm on Mac or are there bugs to sort out?