11-04-2017, 08:08 AM | #1 |
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Half of UK road speed cameras are switched off
Half of UK road speed cameras are switched off
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-4186913...ws/uk-41869134 Blimey, now they tell us!?
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11-04-2017, 08:28 AM | #2 |
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Double digits active in counties where they have triple digits in total. Who is going to risk testing it out?
Even though they say this, the fact that some are on means people will still be cautious going through them. All off in North Yorkshire though... |
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11-04-2017, 12:20 PM | #3 |
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Probably too expensive to maintain. But as you say, you never know so can’t chance it.
When I did I driver awareness course earlier this year (instead of taking points) the instructors told me that they can only place speed cameras in accident black spots or where accidents have occurred...might be true but I call bullshit on that one, the reason they all sprung up in my opinion is for cash collection. For clarity, I agree they do have a place (where warranted) but the sheer numbers can’t be just at accident blackspots? |
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11-04-2017, 03:11 PM | #5 |
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I got done by a temporary one near road works so that's the above comments debunked, it's true some appear off as my snooper 4zero doesn't go off.
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Having seen the locations of some of the speed sorry safety cameras I’d have to agree with the calling bullshit on that one. More about revenue , otherwise why turn them as they’re not economically viable. Best I used to see was driving down a 40mph and just before it changed to an urban clearway and after passing through a built up area is where the milking sorry safety vans would sit.
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11-04-2017, 06:58 PM | #7 |
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I've known for a while that almost all fixed speed cameras in the West Midlands are switched off.
There's a few new average speed cameras in the Birmingham area but not much else apart from camera vans. |
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11-05-2017, 01:34 AM | #9 | |
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Conversely, there's an ever increasing fleet of mobile camera vans and they are a problem. Not only are there more and more of them but they often sit in places where the nature of the road makes it tempting to speed even though there's no history of accidents; net result is lots of NIP's being issued (as a quick look at the log on the North Yorkshire Police website will confirm). |
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If they're just to raise revenue then why don't they have them switched on?
Sounds like they don't even pay for themselves in revenue.
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11-05-2017, 03:22 AM | #11 | |
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However, the thing I find interesting is there's no evidence to support the theory these vans contribute to road safety in terms of reducing either fatalities or serious injuries; as far as I can see the published statistics for North Yorkshire show no real improvement in that regard since all these mobile cameras were introduced. Perhaps if they sited them exclusively at accident blackspots - instead of where they have the highest chance of catching people speeding but where there's no danger - they might be more effective? |
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11-05-2017, 05:25 AM | #12 |
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Thinking of buying Snooper 4ZERO Elite, do you recommend it?
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11-05-2017, 06:19 AM | #14 |
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How effective are these devices at giving advanced warning of things like mobile cameras on rural roads? I've always thought that by the time you get an alert you've probably been pinged and hence the only real defences are illegal (i.e. a jammer or Lobb's false plate solution!).
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Question is, what advanced warning would the Snooper give in those circumstances; is it reliant on other cars going past the van and picking-up a signal as they get pinged? If so presumably you're stuffed if the road's quiet as potentially there are no other signals for it to pick-up! |
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11-06-2017, 01:16 AM | #19 | |
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Doing 75mph you just killed them all and ruined the rest of your life. I 'safety van' is the least of your issues. But seriously, I'm just making the point that this sort of stuff happens every day and I'm sure our 'plod' members have had enough clearing up after the mess. I'm no fan of cameras and mobile vans but I don't get the argument that we all need devices to stop us getting caught; if speeding in the wrong place/conditions then 'we' are just the people that should be rehabilitated surely?
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11-06-2017, 02:43 AM | #20 | |
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I'd also argue it's perfectly possible to be driving in an inappropriate way but within the speed limit just as it's perfectly possible to be driving in an appropriate way but over the speed limit (my definition of appropriate being what's safe as opposed to what's technically legal). However, if you're one of those who thinks there's some sort of "rightness" to all our speed limits - and therefore dutifully comply at all times - that's fair enough. Not sure I see the point in buying an M3 CP if that's the case though! |
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You got me wrong - I'm definitely not advocating following all speed limits all the time but I absolutely don't advocate bitching and moaning if caught when not following the rules....
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I have a 3Zero and its alerts you to fixed cameras via a database and speed traps, but only by detecting that someone has a fix on you when its probably too late. The main issue I've found is the continual false alarms or warnings you don't want!
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