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Are they working on it for manuals or is this going to be an automatic only tune? |
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02-07-2013, 01:15 PM | #24 |
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I would think 100% yes it will be available for manuals. There is no way terry would do it for auto only. For those wondering even stock the stage 2 will make considerably more power than stage 1. I personally cannot wait to try it out. Even stage 1 is impressive.
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02-07-2013, 01:48 PM | #25 |
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i can beta test for manual if needed. Thanks and keep us the MT guys updated.
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02-07-2013, 03:00 PM | #26 |
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Interesting thread on f30 8spd tranny ratings.
http://www.f30driver.com/forum/showthread.php?t=948666 Seems like the the standard rating is 369ft/lb. I imagine a 10% fudge factor, so 400 might be within the limits. Thoughts? |
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From what I could tell comparing the the posted dyno with the stage 1 dyno (both with DPs) it looked like virtually the same peak hp and around 10 more tq. But one would expect not much of a peak power bump from just a tune anyway (can only turn the boost up so far reliably). Now where the real benefit may be is where the power is made across the RPMs and he mentioned lag reduction. Both would be great reasons for the upgrade, but I wouldn't expect anything like 30hp/50tq above stage 1 with only stage 2 as the mod. But I'm no expert and will probably be getting it when it's released |
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We need more Downpipe options. Can't wait to see the first 11 second F30. |
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pretty excited for this! I've been running stage 1 for about 1000 miles already I love it!
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~370whp @ ~15% drivetrain loss = ~435hp...
When you consider all the attributes of the BMW 335i, it is difficult to find a better value-to-dollar car within the segment... Cost, on par with competitors like S4, G37, C350, IS350, S60, etc Luxury/Comfort/Amenities/Technology on par with competitors Looks, very subjective but on par with competitors Performance with 500$ Tune and 500$ DP = 435hp |
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no not bypass map, i mean like a no boost map. I think in E90 JB4 its map 8
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i thought it was 419 at the wheels??
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I'm thinking its an assumption that the transmission rating is based on crank torque since that's where it connects. Stage 2 Map 1 + DP = 419lbs to the wheels which could be considered roughly 493lbs at the crank (15%drivetrain loss), this could be an issue. Not to mention map 2 is 449lbs to the wheels (roughly 528lbs at crank), yikes!
And all this before E85/Race Gas, Meth, NOS....
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Another reason I'm watching this one by the sidelines, letting the engineers at M Performance and Dinan sort out things too...
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