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Alrighty then... Wow. You really seem to be a fan of making rash generalizations whilst minimizing the importance of the reasoning others have used in making their decisions. Even though it's in quotes, "marginal" would indicate that you have some solid facts indicating that the difference is indeed marginal. If you don't have quantitative data, don't make such generalizations please. Anyone can support their own case by downplaying the importance of the issues presented by the opposition. |
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It is actually quite commical. I sit here cometemplating on whether to just not respond and not entertain arguing w the two of you ... but the ignorance/lack of respect you and others seem to have on here actually offends me... Here's my final stance. Let it go. Last time I checked... you failed to provide any "data" to support your claims in your long ass winded response, so rather than attacking me for not doing so accomplishes nothing (and it is kinda ironic - way to paint the kettle black my friend). I'm not sure how I've become the "hated" guy on here simply for trying to give others on here perspective. I never once insulted, attacked, or otherwise disrespected anyone.... Check my posts ... every claim, comment or insight I have had and shared on here has come from somewhere FACTUAL (credible sources). There are a lot of great folks on here ... but I'm afraid I wouldn't include either of you in that group. Just really disrespectful on multiple fronts. You can keep your responses coming ... I'm checking out...
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Example of BavarianFanatic painting the kettle black.
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Dude, you could be the head scientist of Pirelli, and Martinf79 would tell you that you're wrong. All he wanted was reassurance if his choices. So here goes: Martinf79, 255's are awesome in the winter. Nothing grips better. In fact, I'd go 275 as the aesthetic is way better. Feel better now? Queue the "grow up" response in 3...2...1 Last edited by bananachipz; 09-07-2012 at 10:22 PM.. |
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1. A dude at a tire shop told you it was fine 2. Audi uses 245's so there isn't much of a difference to 255? Just sayin' |
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Zzz.... Dude ... All I have to say is... You MUST be single. You have way too much time on your hands + you are one of the most hard headed + irrational individuals I've ever corresponded with.... I feel like I've wasted a full day of my life talking to you.
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We are also considering non-RF (if I can convince my better half to go with the fix-a-flat/compressor route), mainly due to the lack of RF choices. 335iM is in production now , so will be placing snow-tire order very soon.
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Glad I can be of service. I don't have a lot of time, as my day job is working with special needs children. Responding to your posts just felt like any other day. Btw, I thought you were "done" responding. Anyway it's kinda fun to see how many times we can pull a Godfather on you and "Pull you back in!" Last edited by bananachipz; 09-08-2012 at 08:07 AM.. |
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Do I trust the engineers of one of the most premium luxury brands when they recommend 245 tires for audi's.... Or some random dude who is an engineer by trade, but likely not an engineer in the auto industry (who by the way stated at one point was going with the same staggered setup I was suggesting)? Also note - whom none of you attacked for stating so. Do I leverage my own personal experience driving powerful rear wheel cars during Toronto winters.... Or some random dudes with questionable experiences and potentially different geographic locations? I am a rational, well educated and well informed individual. All I did was provide an alternative view. I am also actually now finding this entertaining.... And welcome the ongoing banter. Note that I am typing this on my iPad while taking a number 2. Helps me pass the time. I will allocate all future bowel movements to responding to your very well thought out responses and attacks. It actually gives me something to do while I sit here. Lol
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You do realize that 245 vs. 255 = 10mm difference in width. Just asking, because I'm beginning to seriously (seriously, not even trying to make a joke here) question whether you have any clue to what we're talking about here. 10mm = 1 cm. You realize that... right? right?
That's a 4% overall increase in width. Let's just assume that performance is correlated to width as a percentage (not saying it is .. but lets pretend)... that would infer that my 255 setup would perform 4% less favourably in the winter than the audi's 245 setup. You stated "255's for winter will be bat-shit retarded" which would suggest a very drastic decrease in winter driving performance ... which I would define as 50% less favourable than 225s I stated the difference would be "marginal"... if we took this logic (and the above correlation), 255 vs. 225 would be 13% less favourable and only 4% less favourable than 245s. I actually wouldn't believe the difference would actually be that drastic of a correlation... but in any case ... even with a direct correlation of size to performance ... the difference would be "marginal", which is the only point I have been trying to make all along... So... the point you're trying to make is.......????
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Just figured the least I could do is share my results ... Blizzacks LM-60s on 19s ... 225 F + 255R .... 3rd pic has the 225 along side the 255... Unfortunately, no car yet... and still too warm to mount ... will have to wait until November... |
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Especially with snow & ice, where friction doesn't necessarily depend on surface area - it has a lot do to with the tires ability to "bite" or create ridges in the snow to get the traction. A skinnier tire has more weight to surface area, so the chances of doing this (and displacing water/snow at the same time) are greater. 225's will do this greater than 255's. The exact amount would take a PhD in physics to figure out due to the many factors. Not some dude who thinks he can apply grade 2 math. Rally car racers use 185's for a reason. Quote:
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