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      05-05-2013, 09:38 AM   #89
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Hmmm , how much time do you need for 1 or 2 men job , to change the springs on xdrive F30 ?

I'm on m-packed , oem 19 359M's and i have both HR supersport and HR sport springs for F30 in my garage , which is not use anyway. So I CAN PROBABLY install both an be a genuie pig for all on this forum who is on xdrive and make all the photos.

I have some folks from rally team who are in big favour to me , so if it's 1 day job to remove the oem xdrives one and put HR twice. I can do this.

P.S. I believe the front diff is the problem , it's should be lower than some limit , in order not to be damaged ?

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Hmmm , how much time do you need for 1 or 2 men job , to change the springs on xdrive F30 ?

I'm on m-packed , oem 19 359M's and i have both HR supersport and HR sport springs for F30 in my garage , which is not use anyway. So I CAN PROBABLY install both an be a genuie pig for all on this forum who is on xdrive and make all the photos.

I have some folks from rally team who are in big favour to me , so if it's 1 day job to remove the oem xdrives one and put HR twice. I can do this.

P.S. I believe the front diff is the problem , it's should be lower than some limit , in order not to be damaged ?

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Vad, if you have the time and the parts then why not. As you saw from a different person on this thread, running HR SS hasn't been a problem so far for him. Personally, as far as springs, I am more interested in the HR Sport springs as you can run them longer before your struts start to degrade..another reason Im only doing the OEM Sport Springs with the xdrive until HR come out with xdrive specific springs or I switch to coil overs.
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      05-05-2013, 11:06 PM   #91
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I'm gonna call H&R monday to see if they can confirm fitment for xdrive, since no one else knows lol.
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I'm gonna call H&R monday to see if they can confirm fitment for xdrive, since no one else knows lol.
Any news??
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I'm gonna call H&R monday to see if they can confirm fitment for xdrive, since no one else knows lol.
Hi, any news?
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don't mean to de-rail this thread but does anyone know if BMW will release the m-performance suspension kit for the x-drive 335i with m-adaptive suspension fitted already??
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don't mean to de-rail this thread but does anyone know if BMW will release the m-performance suspension kit for the x-drive 335i with m-adaptive suspension fitted already??
Not likely... the M Performance kit is not compatible with the M Adaptive suspension (it would replace the adaptive dampers, and negate the adaptive capabilities).
Also, the M Performance suspension is not indicated as compatible with xDrive cars even without M Adaptive dampers. The reasons why (and whether it would work anyway) are debated at length in many threads on these forums : )
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Hi, any news?
I didn't feel like waiting for the previous posters response, so I went ahead and called the HQ of H&R which surprisingly is housed locally. Got connected directly with a rep and they said that it is still in the works for the X-drive models. No ETA or any information on progress.

So there is it, just keep waiting...I know I will.
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I didn't feel like waiting for the previous posters response, so I went ahead and called the HQ of H&R which surprisingly is housed locally. Got connected directly with a rep and they said that it is still in the works for the X-drive models. No ETA or any information on progress.

So there is it, just keep waiting...I know I will.
Just got off the phone with them as well, They said try back in 6-8 weeks but fitment on the RWD springs will not work for xdrive.
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Just got off the phone with them as well, They said try back in 6-8 weeks but fitment on the RWD springs will not work for xdrive.
If you ask them why, I bet they would not have answer for it.
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If you ask them why, I bet they would not have answer for it.
Do we even have a reason for BMW not offering a sport suspension on x-drive? I've heard a lot of possibilities from simply higher ride height for snow clearance to more technical things ie. CV joint wear, etc. I emailed BMW NA but got a response that I should check with my dealership because BMW NA does not have any technical data... Practically, I had non-xdrive Zsp springs and Bilsteins on my E90 xdrive without any issues. I'd love to get a tighter setup on my F30.
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Do we even have a reason for BMW not offering a sport suspension on x-drive? I've heard a lot of possibilities from simply higher ride height for snow clearance to more technical things ie. CV joint wear, etc. I emailed BMW NA but got a response that I should check with my dealership because BMW NA does not have any technical data... Practically, I had non-xdrive Zsp springs and Bilsteins on my E90 xdrive without any issues. I'd love to get a tighter setup on my F30.
F30 X-drive problems!!!
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After putting oem f30 sport springs on my 335xi m sport (DHP/adaptive) and driving for ~1000km I've had no problems whatsoever and the stance looks normal versus the 4x4 look. Also a definite improvement with less body roll. We'll see how it looks when I finally get my summer wheels on in a couple weeks (hurry up EAS!)
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After putting oem f30 sport springs on my 335xi m sport (DHP/adaptive) and driving for ~1000km I've had no problems whatsoever and the stance looks normal versus the 4x4 look. Also a definite improvement with less body roll. We'll see how it looks when I finally get my summer wheels on in a couple weeks (hurry up EAS!)
Good to hear it. I am planning to do the same if H&R does not come up with sport springs for xdrive. Also waiting for anti roll bars. Want to do both of them together
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After putting oem f30 sport springs on my 335xi m sport (DHP/adaptive) and driving for ~1000km I've had no problems whatsoever and the stance looks normal versus the 4x4 look. Also a definite improvement with less body roll. We'll see how it looks when I finally get my summer wheels on in a couple weeks (hurry up EAS!)
Any before and after pics?
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Any before and after pics?
Let me see what I can come up with...my photog skills are lacking
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Any before and after pics?
Let me see what I can come up with...my photog skills are lacking
Anyone have the part numbers for the oem sport springs or the red msport springs?
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Anyone have the part numbers for the oem sport springs or the red msport springs?
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...73&hg=31&fg=10

I couldn't find the spring part #s from realoem.com
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Anyone have the part numbers for the oem sport springs or the red msport springs?
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...73&hg=31&fg=10

I couldn't find the spring part #s from realoem.com
It's the same for both the M Perf springs and the Sport springs...

Was hoping some one had figured it out.
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After putting oem f30 sport springs on my 335xi m sport (DHP/adaptive) and driving for ~1000km I've had no problems whatsoever and the stance looks normal versus the 4x4 look. Also a definite improvement with less body roll. We'll see how it looks when I finally get my summer wheels on in a couple weeks (hurry up EAS!)
Have you considered changing anti-roll bars as well? Non xdrive ones are thicker 25 vs 22,5mm front (compared to xdrive) and 13 vs 12 mm rear. That should give even less body roll while cornering.

I also think of putting OEM non xdrive springs to xdrive. Do non xdrive springs have the same wheel alignment angles as xdrive? So you simply swap them and drive away without re-aligning the wheels?

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Have you considered changing anti-roll bars as well? Non xdrive ones are thicker 25 vs 22,5mm front (compared to xdrive) and 13 vs 12 mm rear. That should give even less body roll while cornering.

I also think of putting OEM non xdrive springs to xdrive. Do non xdrive springs have the same wheel alignment angles as xdrive? So you simply swap them and drive away without re-aligning the wheels?
I may consider doing the anti roll bars in the future but the current setup is fine for now..maybe if I go to H&R or coil overs or after the initial warranty period.

As far as the alignment, not totally sure. The guy I paid to do the springs had it aligned afterward and everything was ship-shape.
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Here's the "after" oem sport spring install..don't have a great before shot that shows the higher gap..but I can tell visually and when I sit in the car. Still on winter wheels..
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