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      05-20-2018, 07:32 AM   #1
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Meguiar's Wax

Bought some of this based on a recommend in this forum. Not cheap (28quid on amazon including applicator pad and fibre cloth to wipe off) - incredibly pleased with it, had a lot of coments at work on how good the car looks, people with other bm’s have stopped parking next to me due to their embarrassing paint work!

Couple of questions, in dry weather like now dust seems to stick to the surface of the car, have I applied it wrong or is that ok, it only took 15 mins to wash it though, so maybe a plus? Looks fine from a way off but I can see it on the bonnet as I drive?

Also how often does it need re applying, what are the tell tale signs that it needs redoing?
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I thought wax was a bit outdated now, having been superseded by nano sealants and hybrids?

Certainly nothing sticks to my Gtechniq C2v3!
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I thought wax was a bit outdated now, having been superseded by nano sealants and hybrids?

Certainly nothing sticks to my Gtechniq C2v3!
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I thought wax was a bit outdated now, having been superseded by nano sealants and hybrids?

Certainly nothing sticks to my Gtechniq C2v3!
Thanks! More stuff for me to buy..
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Gyeon Q2M Cure Hydrophobic Spray Sealant https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00OLN7H..._43waBbT4Q6X8V

Had mine Ceramic coated from new, and when combined with the sealant above after a wash it looks spectacular.
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Doesnt matter what product you use, always get a layer of dust in these conditions, logically id imagine wax is worse for it that a sealant. I use gtechniq c2v3, looks fantastic in the sun.
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I use wax rather than sealant because I'm lazy/afraid/something but a few hours after washing it I find it is already dusty
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Wax is still brilliant to use, some great waxes out there.

As mentioned you will still get this layer of dust.

Modern ceramics are very good and take out the effort of keeping on top of having a shiny car.

They do however need topped up periodically.

Depending on the colour of your car certain waxes work better than others.

The key to a nice shiny car is the prep before you do the easy bit of waxing it.

You can still use sealants and Wax btw.

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I used to spend ages detailing, but that all changed 4 years back when I started getting my cars protected with long term sealants.

But I did miss the satisfaction I used to get from doing it, but then on daily drivers that rack up big mileage there seems little point.

Another nice thing about having a weekend garage queen therefore is getting back to doing it all yourself. Last weekend I did just about each and every step in that guide above, except for the carnauba layer on the top of my sealant!

I don't mind topping it up every month either.
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Gyeon Q2M Cure Hydrophobic Spray Sealant https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00OLN7H..._43waBbT4Q6X8V

Had mine Ceramic coated from new, and when combined with the sealant above after a wash it looks spectacular.
Shit I really hope the Amazon link is just for show and not whatyou paid?

Clean your car site far cheaper.

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/detail...prod_1615.html
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I use this and it is freaking amazing
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/index....productId=1549
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The old school folks like myself stick with the traditional wax paste stuff. Nothing beats the bonding that takes place when the paste hardens and embeds itself with the paint. It takes more work and elbow grease but the results are better.
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Just about to pick up my new car this next Friday and can't decide whether to blow £500 and get a new car detail(professional detailer) with ceramic or to spend a day on it myself with some products. The ceramic job I had last time was very good and the finish stayed good for quite some time however, when the inevitable light scratches arrived, you cannot fix them easily. Apparently it needs a wet sand to remove a ceramic coat.

If I do it myself, what do people recommend for an easy to apply by hand sealant?
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Just about to pick up my new car this next Friday and can't decide whether to blow £500 and get a new car detail(professional detailer) with ceramic or to spend a day on it myself with some products. The ceramic job I had last time was very good and the finish stayed good for quite some time however, when the inevitable light scratches arrived, you cannot fix them easily. Apparently it needs a wet and to remove a ceramic coat.

If I do it myself, what do people recommend for an easy to apply by hand sealant?
There's loads of good options, and I've not tried some of the newer ones like Gyeon yet, but I've used this for a few years and really like it. Very easy to apply, and you can do it in the hot sun even. Lasts for a while too.

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/sealan...t/prod_26.html
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The wax is doing it's job. The dust is sat on the wax layer and not sticking to the paint. Think of it as a protective layer even if is touted as anti-dust, static electricity is a thing... keep it clean is the best you can do. Use a detailing spray or snow foam the dust off and then blow dry.

The longevity of the wax depends on many variables. Acid rain, fall out, bird droppings, being parked in the sun... the wax will break down over time even without those variables and with them it will accelerate the process. I would say as a rule of thumb you should re-apply it every 8-10 weeks. Gage it. Does water still bead on it? If it doesn't then that is a big clue.

If you like wax then try a wax like Colinite 476S. Two layers should see you 6 months.
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The wax is doing it's job. The dust is sat on the wax layer and not sticking to the paint. Think of it as a protective layer even if is touted as anti-dust, static electricity is a thing... keep it clean is the best you can do. Use a detailing spray or snow foam the dust off and then blow dry.

The longevity of the wax depends on many variables. Acid rain, fall out, bird droppings, being parked in the sun... the wax will break down over time even without those variables and with them it will accelerate the process. I would say as a rule of thumb you should re-apply it every 8-10 weeks. Gage it. Does water still bead on it? If it doesn't then that is a big clue.

If you like wax then try a wax like Colinite 476S. Two layers should see you 6 months.
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The wax is doing it's job. The dust is sat on the wax layer and not sticking to the paint. Think of it as a protective layer even if is touted as anti-dust, static electricity is a thing... keep it clean is the best you can do. Use a detailing spray or snow foam the dust off and then blow dry.

The longevity of the wax depends on many variables. Acid rain, fall out, bird droppings, being parked in the sun... the wax will break down over time even without those variables and with them it will accelerate the process. I would say as a rule of thumb you should re-apply it every 8-10 weeks. Gage it. Does water still bead on it? If it doesn't then that is a big clue.

If you like wax then try a wax like Colinite 476S. Two layers should see you 6 months.

V useful, thanks - i've still got the beading on the water, so all good in that front. It didn't take long to clean this morning too, and my neighbour commented on how good it looked.

Blow dry? - I used towels, what do you use?!
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If you like wax then try a wax like Colinite 476S. Two layers should see you 6 months.
Another vote for 476S. Whenever I use this, (after proper preparation of the car), the beading lasts at least 6 months - and that was 6 winter months.
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Shit I really hope the Amazon link is just for show and not whatyou paid?

Clean your car site far cheaper.

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/detail...prod_1615.html
No didn't pay that, but thanks for your link, much more like it!!
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Careful with nano and ceramic stuff. Once you're locked in, you're hooked on periodic (3 to 6 month) top-ups. And if you decide to stop using them, your car is going to need a pro to polish the stuff off properly.

I stick to the method in the graphic above, but tend to use wax in my last step. I've got a Bilt-Hamber kit, and their stuff is top-notch, and about 30% cheaper then Megs and the others. And its all eco-friendly stuff that you can wash down the drain.

To be honest, the best wax/sealant to use is the one you are the most comfortable with, and the one you like the look of the most!

And dust sticking to a car is what keeps all of us with our buckets in hand. Nobody's invented a sealant that completely repels dust yet.. Good business idea :P
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The wax is doing it's job. The dust is sat on the wax layer and not sticking to the paint. Think of it as a protective layer even if is touted as anti-dust, static electricity is a thing... keep it clean is the best you can do. Use a detailing spray or snow foam the dust off and then blow dry.

The longevity of the wax depends on many variables. Acid rain, fall out, bird droppings, being parked in the sun... the wax will break down over time even without those variables and with them it will accelerate the process. I would say as a rule of thumb you should re-apply it every 8-10 weeks. Gage it. Does water still bead on it? If it doesn't then that is a big clue.

If you like wax then try a wax like Colinite 476S. Two layers should see you 6 months.
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The wax is doing it's job. The dust is sat on the wax layer and not sticking to the paint. Think of it as a protective layer even if is touted as anti-dust, static electricity is a thing... keep it clean is the best you can do. Use a detailing spray or snow foam the dust off and then blow dry.

The longevity of the wax depends on many variables. Acid rain, fall out, bird droppings, being parked in the sun... the wax will break down over time even without those variables and with them it will accelerate the process. I would say as a rule of thumb you should re-apply it every 8-10 weeks. Gage it. Does water still bead on it? If it doesn't then that is a big clue.

If you like wax then try a wax like Colinite 476S. Two layers should see you 6 months.

V useful, thanks - i've still got the beading on the water, so all good in that front. It didn't take long to clean this morning too, and my neighbour commented on how good it looked.

Blow dry? - I used towels, what do you use?!
I used to use deep pile towels then swapped to this:

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/washin...prod_1152.html

With a towel you are okay so long as you place and pat dry. Some drag the towel around and in can introduce scratches again. Proper technique is key so place the towel, press lightly and, lift. Move on and repeat.
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I'm a big fan of Meguiars but based on some of the comments here, I've ordered some Gtechniq C2v3. I'll give it a go over the upcoming long weekend.
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Very pleased with results of Bilt Hamber double speed wax over the weekend after a quick clay bar
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Just about to pick up my new car this next Friday and can't decide whether to blow £500 and get a new car detail(professional detailer) with ceramic or to spend a day on it myself with some products. The ceramic job I had last time was very good and the finish stayed good for quite some time however, when the inevitable light scratches arrived, you cannot fix them easily. Apparently it needs a wet sand to remove a ceramic coat.

If I do it myself, what do people recommend for an easy to apply by hand sealant?
In your situation I would personally get a pro. By the time you added up the cost of all the products needed and your time there will be no real saving. Unless u want to get into car detailing. Plus there is a learning curve and experimenting on your new pride and joy might not turn out so great...
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