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      09-19-2015, 08:42 AM   #1
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F30 M Sport with H&R supersport springs

After extensive research, my first modification done on the car were these springs. I wanted a more compelling drop compared to factory suspension but not over the top ridiculous. Front dropped by 3.5cm (1.5inch) and rear by 3cm (1.2inch)
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Looking good!

How is the comfort affected?
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Looking good!

How is the comfort affected?
surprisingly still comfortable and not too stiff... i believe the springs were designed specifically and tested for the bmw f30 models and being a german brand, there is no worrying about quality.
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man, that looks real smooth on those wheels!
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man, that looks real smooth on those wheels!
funny enough, my next mod was new wheels and tyres...f80 M3/4 ....

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here she is...
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wow that drop looks perfect!
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i have 2013 328 msport - what size tires you running? i have 245/40/19 front and 275/35/19 rear - think it will rub?
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i have 2013 328 msport - what size tires you running? i have 245/40/19 front and 275/35/19 rear - think it will rub?
I'm running 235/35/19 front and 255/30/19 rears with no issues. Originally I had 275/30/19 rears and the m3 wheels rubbed on the f30 (barely but very annoying) so had to change to 255 which is the stock width on the msport. If you have stock suspension, there may not be rubbing but if you go over a big dip or pothole or turn very sharply, you will probably experience it. The offset for these m3 wheels are also different to the f30 msport wheels, so that also plays a part. There are some people on this forum that says they are running 275 rears with no rubbing but I suggest you try it on before you buy it. Good luck.
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Thanks guys for the positive feedback. Just wanted to share my thoughts and photos of what the car would look like when fitted for anyone who wants to go down this path. I went with h&r springs instead of coil overs because:
A. It's cheaper $400 vs $2000
B. The drop is just as nice
C. The ride quality is not harsh (still comfortable with less body roll)
D. I don't track it like my previous cars so no need for the coilover set up.
E. German made quality.

The only negative is that the steep driveway is a bit of a bitch when I park at night.

Advantages of coilover setup for anyone going down this path over springs are:

A. Can be height adjusted to the level you desire.
B. Stiffness level can be adjusted
C. Better for track days
D. Most likely will be better for the shock absorbers (but the h&r springs were made to handle the stock shock absorbers).
E. Can adjust the camber effect for different wheel setup.

The other springs that are also very similar and gives the same drop and also German made are Eibach springs for anyone interested. They are pretty much of the same build, quality and looks. Both H&R and Eibach are used for the German DTM and various teams, so they know German cars very well and all the specs. I wouldn't go with any other sport springs brand than these two for German cars.
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[QUOTE=terminator335i;18638506]Thanks guys for the positive feedback. Just wanted to share my thoughts and photos of what the car would look like when fitted for anyone who wants to go down this path. I went with h&r springs instead of coil overs because.

Mate looks good. But you went Super sports, I was thinking just sports. So you get no rubbing now? I am using the original Msport tyres with M580s 19x8.5 and 19x9.5 but standard it sits too high at the front like they all do.
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Thanks guys for the positive feedback. Just wanted to share my thoughts and photos of what the car would look like when fitted for anyone who wants to go down this path. I went with h&r springs instead of coil overs because.

Mate looks good. But you went Super sports, I was thinking just sports. So you get no rubbing now? I am using the original Msport tyres with M580s 19x8.5 and 19x9.5 but standard it sits too high at the front like they all do.
hey theblackcat, youve great a great combo for your f30 msport with white on black concave wheels. i do believe that for a stock msport, it does sit a bit too high especially the front wheel gap. i spoke to bmw techs at the dealers and they said that each generation, the car sits up higher just for safety changes to road laws worldwide. the e46 msport was so nicely setup and looked so good at stock height, then the e90 sat a touch higher but still at an acceptable height without making you want to lower it, but the f3x series sat too high up that it didnt make it look sporty at all (even though it wears the msport badge and rides on m adaptive suspension). i believe the car should have come out if the factory with h&r sport springs.
there are a lot of cars on this forum that have the H&R sports fitted (as opposed to supersport on mine) that looks really nice. the difference between the two is approxiametly an extra 0.6 inch (1.2cm front) and 0.5 inch (1.1cm) rear, which isnt much but i hate big wheel gaps and didnt want to regret not getting supersport if the sport H&R wasnt low enough. Price wise, they are the same. You can buy them off internet dealers (eg Turner motorsport, Mike-xph.com or ebay for around $400 after exchange rates), and shipped to us here is Oz, and get a suspension centre to install them professionally and properly wheeled aligned (around $500).
There is absolutely no rubbing at all with my original msport wheels and tyres(as you can see with the first pics) and with my new m3 wheels i had 235/35/19 front (no rubbing at all) and 275/30/19 rears with rubbing so had to change to 255/30/19 which is the stock width tyre, and now there is absolutely no rubbing. these wheels are concave, so the offset is around 38 (to the rear) whereas the stock msport offset was 45-47, so that plays a part to it aswell. Just check your wheel offset too.
Hope this helps. good luck buddy.
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Thanks mate for all the info really appreciate it. I went to Heasemans in Sydney this morning they specialise in suspension work. They use Eibach which I know from my Mechanical days are a good spring. They say the front will drop about 40mm and the back about 10mm. They had a good look at the car and said they don't see it rubbing as it will run a tad more negative camber at the front with the lowering.
I attached a photoshopped pic of how it would look and I think it will look pretty cool.
Thanks again mate.
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Thanks mate for all the info really appreciate it. I went to Heasemans in Sydney this morning they specialise in suspension work. They use Eibach which I know from my Mechanical days are a good spring. They say the front will drop about 40mm and the back about 10mm. They had a good look at the car and said they don't see it rubbing as it will run a tad more negative camber at the front with the lowering.
I attached a photoshopped pic of how it would look and I think it will look pretty cool.
Thanks again mate.
hope it turns out that way...nice photoshop.
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Thanks guys for the positive feedback. Just wanted to share my thoughts and photos of what the car would look like when fitted for anyone who wants to go down this path. I went with h&r springs instead of coil overs because:
A. It's cheaper $400 vs $2000
B. The drop is just as nice
C. The ride quality is not harsh (still comfortable with less body roll)
D. I don't track it like my previous cars so no need for the coilover set up.
E. German made quality.

The only negative is that the steep driveway is a bit of a bitch when I park at night.

Advantages of coilover setup for anyone going down this path over springs are:

A. Can be height adjusted to the level you desire.
B. Stiffness level can be adjusted
C. Better for track days
D. Most likely will be better for the shock absorbers (but the h&r springs were made to handle the stock shock absorbers).
E. Can adjust the camber effect for different wheel setup.

The other springs that are also very similar and gives the same drop and also German made are Eibach springs for anyone interested. They are pretty much of the same build, quality and looks. Both H&R and Eibach are used for the German DTM and various teams, so they know German cars very well and all the specs. I wouldn't go with any other sport springs brand than these two for German cars.
I think Eibach has a factory here in SoCal?
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Looks great! What are your camber settings at this height?

Thanks
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Getting my H&R super sports installed tomorrow. Contemplating if I should do alignment since my tires are almost done.
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Looks great! What are your camber settings at this height?

Thanks
Don't think camber can be adjusted on springs alone. You need coil overs.
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