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      12-25-2016, 03:36 AM   #1
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Hello, I just bought a used 2016 428i in the US.

I brought it back to my country (Tahiti) and the local BMW dealer is refusing to service it. I didn't even go into the warranty question...
They are telling me that these are rules coming directly from Munich, no service on cars imported privately from the US.

Any advise on that?

Thank you!
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      12-25-2016, 04:18 AM   #2
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It sounds like crap to me - service should be OK.

I'd contact BMW in Munich directly.
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      12-25-2016, 08:45 AM   #3
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Hello, I just bought a used 2016 428i in the US.

I brought it back to my country (Tahiti) and the local BMW dealer is refusing to service it. I didn't even go into the warranty question...
They are telling me that these are rules coming directly from Munich, no service on cars imported privately from the US.

Any advise on that?

Thank you!
It's possible that different regions do not support cars outside of that region. Off hand, I don't know since that situation doesn't apply to me. As the previous post stated, reach out to BMW directly. I'm sure they want a happy customer. Hopefully they can service what is needed. If they can't perhaps there is an authorized shop that can service you within warranty.
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      12-25-2016, 10:27 AM   #4
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BMW and all auto manufacturers are having problems with people buying cars in the states, the bargin bin of car pricing, and then exporting them. You should have actually signed a piece of paper stating you will not export the car if you bought it in the States.

BMW can easily track what cars get serviced where thanks to scanning the fob. If the dealer said BMW says no, I would tend to belive them and if I were in their shoes I would not service it either if corporate told me not to.
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      12-25-2016, 10:48 AM   #5
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This was a common position for dealers in Canada for cars imported from the US. Not my personal experience, but it made a lot of news here. It was the OEMs (not just BMW) way of discouraging importing from a country with more favourable pricing.

You may be Out of luck as it likely is a corporate policy.
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      12-25-2016, 11:05 AM   #6
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It was the OEMs (not just BMW) way of discouraging importing from a country with more favourable pricing.
True, and it happens with many goods, not just cars. But it should only apply to warranty work, and certainly not to doing any service on a used car.
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      12-25-2016, 12:30 PM   #7
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True, and it happens with many goods, not just cars. But it should only apply to warranty work, and certainly not to doing any service on a used car.
What better way for an OEM counter importing issues than to tell their dealers that they will lose their dealership if they service imported cars?

If there is no place to have it serviced fewer people will try and do those export/import deals.

There will always be someone else to take over the dealership franchise so the dealers know they can'take take the risk. I would suspect if the OP knew this going in they would not have bought the car.

Now the OP will tell his friendsand they will think twice. That is exactly what BMW wants.
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      12-25-2016, 05:06 PM   #9
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What better way for an OEM counter importing issues than to tell their dealers that they will lose their dealership if they service imported cars?.
I suspect that the OP wants warranty service. It is a 2016 model that he has. BMW won't terminate the dealership, they just won't cover warranty items. I also doubt that it's a BMW issue, it's probably an issue with whichever wholesale entity it is that imports BMW to French Polynesia. Whatever the exact reason, grey market goods are a real problem, and manufacturers of all products have the right to protect their interests, which grey market goods do threaten.
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      12-25-2016, 05:12 PM   #10
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Hello, I just bought a used 2016 428i in the US.

I brought it back to my country (Tahiti) and the local BMW dealer is refusing to service it. I didn't even go into the warranty question...
They are telling me that these are rules coming directly from Munich, no service on cars imported privately from the US.

Any advise on that?

Thank you!
How much did you save overall? I know things in Papeete are expensive, but the cost of shipping a car to Tahiti and getting it registered there must be pretty high.
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      12-25-2016, 05:44 PM   #11
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Too bad the OP didn't check with the dealer in Tahiti BEFORE purchasing the car in the US. Given the costs involved, that would seem prudent. Depends on the amount of the savings, but sometimes it's just not worth it.
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i'm not clear; are you saying they are refusing you the free service (understandable) or are they refusing to have you pay to service your car? (not understandable). your warranty and free maintenance definitely are void; but there is no reason why they would refuse to service your car in exchange for money..
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      12-25-2016, 09:29 PM   #13
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The person at the service department has orders not to accept cars from the US, I am not taking about free service, I would of course pay for it.
I understand that they might not be too happy with privately imported vehicles but I was still surprised that they would not even service the car, it's still a BMW, that was bought legally and imported legally. Don't they have at least this responsibility? I am not even asking for warranty.
Anyway I was told this morning by a friend who works there that it is not true that Munich forbids them not to handle US imported cars but it is up to them to decide.
My country is small so there is a good chance that if I try to call up higher in the hierarchy the people that I know I could probably have it taken care of.
Plus I did buy a BMW R9T motorcycle 3 months ago from them... Prices here are pretty much double than in the US, the R9T cost me $30 000...
As for the the 4 series there is only one available at the dealership and I wasn't too crazy about it, it's a 430i with white leather, not too good for Tahiti. And by the way the price is $90 000...
Right now I'm debating with wether I try to push for them to still take it, knowing that I probably don't have the warranty anymore or wether I try to find a good mechanic.
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      12-25-2016, 09:41 PM   #14
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It ended up costing me $65 000, for a car with 3500 miles.
They didn't have what I wanted (black/black) but the equivalent here would've been $90 000. Too much for me.
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Unlikely that BMW Munich would sanction this. Without looking into what the contract (purchase agreement) actually says, I would think that the manufacturer would have an obligation to service any of their cars, especially one still under warranty. Smells like breach of contract/warranty. What if you were an expat American who moved to Tahiti? Would their position be that you'd have to sell? What if you were an American working in Tahiti for a stretch?

Again, hard to see BMW signing off on this. The flipside is that US cars don't meet Tahitian government specifications... but again, that's something that should be disclosed in the purchase agreement, a list of countries where US-specified cars cannot be exported to (just as Euro-spec cars cannot be imported to the US.)
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      12-26-2016, 02:15 AM   #16
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BMW is great about servicing vehicles at any dealership, compared to other manufacturers which ever shrinking warranty plans that may be restricted to one local shop.

That being said, there is fine print when purchasing vehicle to not export due to the price differences in various countries.
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Is there a US military installation on the island ? You could tell them you are part of the military that usually gets you around any silly restrictions like that.
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It was the OEMs (not just BMW) way of discouraging importing from a country with more favourable pricing.
True, and it happens with many goods, not just cars. But it should only apply to warranty work, and certainly not to doing any service on a used car.
Dealers are not contractually obliged to provide service to any car unless it's within the stipulations of the warranty. If there are any restrictions regarding cars purchased outside of the country in which it currently resides in, it will be printed in the terms of the warranty.

OP, read your warranty fine print and make sure of the existence of these terms. Otherwise look for a reliable local BMW mechanic. Good luck!
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I was told this morning by a friend who works there that it is not true that Munich forbids them not to handle US imported cars but it is up to them to decide.
That being the case it seems that this dealer wants to enforce a monopoly on BMW sales by whatever means possible. I would not reward him with your patronage. Finding a good mechanic shouldn't be that difficult.
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The person at the service department has orders not to accept cars from the US, I am not taking about free service, I would of course pay for it.
I understand that they might not be too happy with privately imported vehicles but I was still surprised that they would not even service the car, it's still a BMW, that was bought legally and imported legally. Don't they have at least this responsibility? I am not even asking for warranty.
Anyway I was told this morning by a friend who works there that it is not true that Munich forbids them not to handle US imported cars but it is up to them to decide.
My country is small so there is a good chance that if I try to call up higher in the hierarchy the people that I know I could probably have it taken care of.
Plus I did buy a BMW R9T motorcycle 3 months ago from them... Prices here are pretty much double than in the US, the R9T cost me $30 000...
As for the the 4 series there is only one available at the dealership and I wasn't too crazy about it, it's a 430i with white leather, not too good for Tahiti. And by the way the price is $90 000...
Right now I'm debating with wether I try to push for them to still take it, knowing that I probably don't have the warranty anymore or wether I try to find a good mechanic.
This was an issue in USA in the 80s with Porsche and MB Grey Market cars coming in from Europe.

Though not the only reason in the 80s, as much issue now is different parts/coding for different regions. I have doubts that BMWs in your Region/Country use North America Parts/Coding.

For that reason alone, I can see the local Dealers refusing to work on the car.

The last thing they want is wiring differences, parts not working properly (that puts them in a liability issue), coding differences and car throwing error codes from out of region parts.

Hate to say it, but unfortunately I get where they are coming from.
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Hello, I just bought a used 2016 428i in the US.

I brought it back to my country (Tahiti) and the local BMW dealer is refusing to service it. I didn't even go into the warranty question...
They are telling me that these are rules coming directly from Munich, no service on cars imported privately from the US.

Any advise on that?

Thank you!
Unfortunately, I can't help you, but I see that you live in Tahiti! OMG, that is where I live in my fantasy world!
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