Dealer fees question

mwh2009 · 03-05-2016, 12:03 PM

Posted this on the mid Atlantic board but since it doesn't get a lot of looks:

Hi all,

About to pull the trigger on a 2016 340i order, and I'm unclear on what fees from the dealer are mandatory or common practice and what are just padding the dealer profit?

I live in Richmond Va - here's what the dealer has quoted so far:

Dealer Business Tax $102
Processing Fee $479
Non taxable fees $61

Thoughts?

eluded · 03-05-2016, 09:05 PM

Sound strange, does the state have a website you can use to get estimate on fees? I know in California they do

You can always switch negotiation tactics to price out the door.

gongtowjai · 03-06-2016, 07:39 PM

I think your fees is bit higher than avg..but its true in VA. I take it you have not brought a new car in your state before?

http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/wh...d-you-pay.html

gongtowjai · 03-06-2016, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eluded

Sound strange, does the state have a website you can use to get estimate on fees? I know in California they do

You can always switch negotiation tactics to price out the door.

VA does. I'm not sure it answers his question.

https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/apps/fe...ansaction.aspx

mwh2009 · 03-07-2016, 08:02 AM

I haven't bought in VA before - just moved here a few years ago, and this is really the first time where the fees from any dealer in any state have kind of raised a red flag for me.

The main thing I'm trying to do is get an apples to apples comparison of my local dealer's best price with the quote i'm hoping to get this week from David Aviles. The local dealer could make it easier with a trade-in, etc, but I'm expecting his price to be too high, and then these fees, if they're excessive, may put local dealer out of the running entirely.

mwh2009 · 03-07-2016, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongtowjai

VA does. I'm not sure it answers his question.

https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/apps/fe...ansaction.aspx

Using this, it looks like VA charges sales tax, plus about $100 of other charges if you already have a plate, which I will.

Seems like this is a little too much (from the dealer quote), especially for PCD where the dealer won't even touch the car:
"Dealer Business Tax" $102.20
"Processing Fee" $479
"Non-Tax Fees" $60.75
"Sales Tax" 4.1% (No issue with this one)

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mwh2009 Captain 289 Rep 621 Posts Drives: M2C Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: VA iTrader: (0)	Dealer fees question Posted this on the mid Atlantic board but since it doesn't get a lot of looks: Hi all, About to pull the trigger on a 2016 340i order, and I'm unclear on what fees from the dealer are mandatory or common practice and what are just padding the dealer profit? I live in Richmond Va - here's what the dealer has quoted so far: Dealer Business Tax $102 Processing Fee $479 Non taxable fees $61 Thoughts? __________________ 2021 M2C, HS / 6MT 2019 Mini Cooper S Hardtop 4 Door / 6MT 2022 Mini Countryman All4 JCW No longer with me: 2018 Golf R, 2017 F80 M3, 2016 F30 340i xDrive
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gongtowjai I'll Kung Fu Panda your ass 106 Rep 2,100 Posts Drives: '16 F30 XDrive Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Queens iTrader: (0)	I think your fees is bit higher than avg..but its true in VA. I take it you have not brought a new car in your state before? http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/wh...d-you-pay.html __________________ '16 F30 340 XDrive - AW-Lighting & Track Packages. The FIRST drive was awesome....
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mwh2009 Captain 289 Rep 621 Posts Drives: M2C Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: VA iTrader: (0)	I haven't bought in VA before - just moved here a few years ago, and this is really the first time where the fees from any dealer in any state have kind of raised a red flag for me. The main thing I'm trying to do is get an apples to apples comparison of my local dealer's best price with the quote i'm hoping to get this week from David Aviles. The local dealer could make it easier with a trade-in, etc, but I'm expecting his price to be too high, and then these fees, if they're excessive, may put local dealer out of the running entirely.
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