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      11-11-2012, 11:30 PM   #23
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so you have the human element of things, and the machine element of the assembly. OP, should you be asking if the machines were built in China?
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I would really like to see the backup for this statement. Rusted parts?

BMW SA factory builds quality cars and BMW monitors the OEMs and material suppliers like a hawk. Probably more so outside of Germany. There is a human element in auto assembly. Mistakes/errors are made in every factory on every continent.
go to the Australian section of this website, all complaints for rusted seats are cars built in south africa.
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go to the Australian section of this website, all complaints for rusted seats are cars built in south africa.
This statement is a bit different than your previous saying "rusted parts".

OK, some cars exhibited surface rust on the seat frames. Bad? Yes, but it could happen anywhere. Other posts on the same thread showed it was thoroughly cleaned off so it seems the rust was nothing more than surface rust and likely due to the raw material not being treated and/or stored properly. Yes, it should have been caught, but was not. I bet its been addressed by now.

Do you think factories in Germany and US have not had their share of local issues? Oh, they have!

FYI, Lear manufactures seats for BMW in Germany, SA and USA. Same OEM, all 3 continents.

http://www.lear.com/en/contact/locat...country_id=390
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This statement is a bit different than your previous saying "rusted parts".

OK, some cars exhibited surface rust on the seat frames. Bad? Yes, but it could happen anywhere. Other posts on the same thread showed it was thoroughly cleaned off so it seems the rust was nothing more than surface rust and likely due to the raw material not being treated and/or stored properly. Yes, it should have been caught, but was not. I bet its been addressed by now.

Do you think factories in Germany and US have not had their share of local issues? Oh, they have!

FYI, Lear manufactures seats for BMW in Germany, SA and USA. Same OEM, all 3 continents.

http://www.lear.com/en/contact/locat...country_id=390
Depends how each plant treats them and thats the issue i was addressing.
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Resale value is unaffected. SA cars are NOT discounted more than German built cars. QUOTE]

I disagree...I dealth with a couple of dealers in the US a few years ago, and they specifically indicated these cars were made in SA vs a car made in Germany....and there was a different price on them.

Even their advertisements specifically highlighted the car was made in SA. If peeps didn't care, why would they go out of their way to make it known?
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FYI a South African built BMW is by no way a poorly built car. South Africa is known for having some of the best Car manufacturing/assembly plants in the world. That is why BMW, Audi , Benz and more have their bread and butter built in SA. But a German Car built in Germany has even higher standards to uphold when your bread and butter is rolling out of headquarters.
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I disagree...I dealth with a couple of dealers in the US a few years ago, and they specifically indicated these cars were made in SA vs a car made in Germany....and there was a different price on them.

Even their advertisements specifically highlighted the car was made in SA. If peeps didn't care, why would they go out of their way to make it known?
MSRP of German vs SA builds were never different. If a dealer discounted it more its simply because they had tons of inventory of cars they wanted to sell. Check any wholesale resale guide and see if the values are different.
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MSRP of German vs SA builds were never different. If a dealer discounted it more its simply because they had tons of inventory of cars they wanted to sell. Check any wholesale resale guide and see if the values are different.
Yes. Makes sense.
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