[powershot]

Hi Everyone

I own a BMW F31 with halogens and I want to upgrade to xenons or Leds.
I've read almost every topic in the forum regarding this subject and I'm not sure about the way to go.

I'm on a budget and therefore, the following options are out of question:
1. OEM Retrofit (http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=938803)
From what I have read in other topics, should cost around 2000 dollars and is very hard to find some of the parts.
2. Mars Bi-xenon Aftermarket headlight (http://marsperformance.com.au/Black-...-F30-F31-12-15)
They look very nice, very similar to OEM but the price is very high for aftermarket in my opinion.
3. UMNITZA Leds DTM Style (https://www.umnitza.com/headlights-p...2-present.html)
These headlights are awesome but the price is still very high (1699 dollars).
4. ONEighty OE-S F30 LED Headlight
Also awesome but with a high price as well (1600 dollars).

Alternatively, I've the cheaper option to add angel eyes and a xenon kit to my halogen headlights.
I requested an estimate from a dealer in my country and they said that should be around 350 dollars (pair of headlights).
The angel eyes they use are similar to these: http://store.ijdmtoy.com/BMW-DTM-Sty...g-p/80-105.htm
The price seems fair to me, the only problem is the final look which doesn't look much OEM.

If anyone knows any angel eyes for the F31 which looks more OEM, I really appreciate the share. I cannot find anything similar to the OEM angel eyes, or similar to DTM OEM style (like M4), the aftermarket options I find seem crap and don't look like OEM at all .

Nevertheless, due to the forbidden prices of the aftermarket plug & play solutions, I think the only option is to retrofit my halogen headlights.
The only thing which makes me think twice before proceed, is the hope that the prices of the plug & play solutions may drop in the few months. With the hype of the Led lights (UMNITZA and OE-S) maybe the Bi-xenon from Mars may drop the price...

Do you guys think it worth the waiting for a few months and see if the prices drop, or should I proceed with the retrofit? For instance, the Eagle eyes dropped a lot the price...

Many thanks everyone

[powershot]

Found these in aliexpress:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/DTM-L...3-5cc11e4aeeeb







These look like F30 LCI angel eyes, apart from the horizontal led which is missing...Anyone tried these ?

BMW F30 LCI angel eyes:

[scostu]

Not sure if these have been sold yet. I almost got them.... just didnt like the black vs OEM silver eyelid.


http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1189665

[Adamr916]

The OEM retrofit will be the best to go with solely because if something happens to anything with the headlight assembly, you can get replacement parts. As far as finding the parts for the retrofit, the only one I am having an issue with finding are the actual modules, I have found everything else relatively cheap for used parts go.

I don't think anyone has pulled the trigger on the OEM style projectors, so I can't give any feedback on those.

The Umnitza and ONEighty lights are the same, but I haven't heard anything back from anyone who got in on the ONEighty pre-buy, so I would go with Umnitza if you go that route.

The projector retrofit would be the hardest to do, bit easiest way to get xenons. I only say this just because of how bad I've heard it is to take a set of OEM headlights apart, but I'm not a professional by any means for taking headlights apart.

[powershot]

Thanks guys

I did an estimate of how much will cost the total of OEM parts and I think I can get all the parts (used) for about 1400dollars.

I used the list of parts available at US F30 OEM Adaptive Xenon Retrofit DIY to do the estimate:
A. 63117259553 - Driver side adaptive headlight
B. 63117259551 - Passenger side adaptive headlight
C. 63127296090 (x2) - Xenon control unit, one per headlight
D. 63117316186 (x2) - Driver control modules, one per headlight
E. 63117311243 (x4) - LED modules, two per headlight
F. 9285148294 (x2) - Philips Xenstart headlight bulb D1S

The tutorial is for a F30 328i and I've a F31 318d but I searched the parts in realoem.com and seem compatible with my model.

I noticed that the adaptive headlights are much more expensive than the non-adaptive.
Once I won't retrofit the auto-level sensors, doesn't make sense to use adaptive headlights, or am I missing something here?

Finally, if I choose to go with non-adaptive, I think the only part I also need to replace apart from the headlights, is the Driver module for headlight (63117316147).

Regarding the tutorial, if I go with non-adaptive, do you think that the wiring harness will be the same as the adaptive headlight? I plan to follow the tutorial available at http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=938803 , so I would like to know if I can use the same steps for non adaptive headlights.

Many thanks

[Adamr916]

Just out of curiosity, what price did you average for the driver control modules?

Using adaptive or non adaptive will still require the same steps in doing the retrofit. I'm not sure on your local laws regarding HID lighting, but I would look into it before you go about it just because I know most of Europe requires both a functional leveling and headlight washers.

[powershot]

I searched on ebay.co.uk and other sites which sell parts and my estimate is the following:



Regarding the modules, the average prices are around 350 euros...

I found a set of used headlights for 500 euros in excellent condition. The problem is that they are not adaptive and I believe if I choose them I'll have to use the module with ID 63117316147 instead.

The local laws require a functional leveling and headlight washers, but I don't understand how is that possible because the BMW sells brand new cars with xenon and without adaptive headlights. Maybe I'm confusing something here, but is not possible to have functional adaptive headlights without the leveling sensors, right?

Also, we have an annual inspection but they don't really care about the leveling and headlight washers.

[powershot]

I saw now that I did the estimate in Euros and not dollars
It should be around 1660 dollars...

[Adamr916]

You can have the functional adaptive xenons without the leveling if you code it. But the non adaptive xenons are auto leveling as well. The only difference between the adaptive and non adaptive is the non adaptive don't move side to side

[powershot]

I thought the auto leveling sensors were used only in adaptive headlights, many thanks for the explanation.

I will think about this before making a decision but I think I will go with non-adaptive headlights without auto level sensors, mostly because of the price.

[Adamr916]

Originally Posted by powershot

I thought the auto leveling sensors were used only in adaptive headlights, many thanks for the explanation.

I will think about this before making a decision but I think I will go with non-adaptive headlights without auto level sensors, mostly because of the price.

You may still need to get them installed before your next yearly, I'm sure Portugal isn't as bad as the TÜV in Germany, but they'll probably check.

Unless you can find a 25w D1S set up, from my understanding, the 25w set up does not require the levelers and washers. That how Osram was able to do these without adding anything extra to the car.

Xenarc Retrofit for Audi A4

(I sent them a suggestion for the F30)

[powershot]

In Portugal the inspection is not that rigorous as TUV in Germany

I bought the car in Germany 6 months ago and there they are really picky. I didn't like the car wheels, but couldn't change them there because I needed an extra inspection in TUV just to change the wheels Then when I arrived in Portugal changed the wheels without any problem

Regarding the bulbs, to avoid any surprise I will use a D1S 25W as you suggested.

Regarding the headlight, I asked the part number from the seller, and he says the number is 63117259525. In realoem.com I cannot find this part and this sounds a little strange, it should be 63117314531 according to reloem

Is there any possibility of this part with number 63117259525 being superseded by the 63117314531 ?
I can also find the part in other used parts websites: http://traversparts.com/catalog/bmw/...dlump-cluster/

Many thanks for all these tips

[Adamr916]

Could be E-Code part number. I know the SAE and ECE coded headlights are different.

[powershot]

I searched a little bit and just can find this part in Russian websites I won't risk it and will buy the part numbers available in realom.com

[Adamr916]

Hell, ebay.de has plenty of adaptive housings on it

[powershot]

Already bought the right adaptive headlight and the Led modules.
Now I am waiting for auctions for the left headlight.

Meanwhile, I am looking for the xenon ballasts and found these aftermarket (supposed to be made by Mitsubishi electric):

http://www.ebay.de/itm/XENUS-D1S-D1S...1uzX#vi-ilComp

Does anyone tried this ballasts? The price is very nice for a brand new item, but I'm affraid it may not be fully compatible or something.

[Adamr916]

I managed to find 2 OEM ballasts for $175 USD, just gotta keep looking. I'd personally like to keep everything OEM as to make it seem like they were on from factory so if anything happens to them, the dealership is less likely to say anything.

[powershot]

I followed your suggestion and bought one original ballast for 18GBP (about 25 USD) Now I'm looking for a good deal for the second.

Regarding the headlight, I bought the adaptive headlight with part number 63117259528. I asked the seller about the compatibility with the ballast (63127296090), control module (63117316186) and led modules (63117398766), and he said it was fully compatible.

In realoem.com, the part number for the adaptive headlight is 63117338701.
Does anyone know if the parts have different numbers according to the region or something?
There are only a few headlights with 63117338701 number in ebay.de or ebay.co.uk, and I can find much more with number 63117259528. Maybe the part in US has the number 63117338701 and in Europe is 63117259528.

Many thanks

[vioilio]

Hello. I have installed adaptive xenon on my USA Halogen F34 car. Everything works (angel eyes, high low turn signals) but i have errors:
8041BA AHL system faulty
8041F0 Right headlight driver module TMS coding error.
8041FF Headlight driver module TMS left coding erorr.

I have adaptive headlight malfunction on the dash. I have made the neccesery pin changes to the headlight connectors and the fem module, added/changed the wires. Did all the coding (add 522 544 to VO) and recoded FEM. Checked everything 10 times and still have this error and the adaptive function of the lights is not working.

Can someone help?

[Binno87]

Hi guys ..can someone help ? Iam doing halogen to xenon on my f30 and need information on how to complete this ..all other info i found has the adaptive am just wanting to do xenon retrofit .any help be much appreciated