[J_MENIS]

Originally Posted by Diskz

That would be the only option until a) ptf releases a e30 map with stock fuel setup or b) you get PI. I'm currently just running a 100 Oct OTS map and love it, my wallet doesn't though

You think I would need to run the EWG harness with a BEF to run E30.

lol I took my JB4 out and it's a B to get to the wastegate plug

[F30_SixSpeed]

Originally Posted by Diskz

That would be the only option until a) ptf releases a e30 map with stock fuel setup or b) you get PI. I'm currently just running a 100 Oct OTS map and love it, my wallet doesn't though

FSociety is running the e30 map currently.

[Zel335]

Originally Posted by F30_SixSpeed

FSociety is running the e30 map currently.

I think he is ewg and from the sound of it the pwg is having issue.

[Diskz]

Originally Posted by F30_SixSpeed

FSociety is running the e30 map currently.

Originally Posted by Zel335

I think he is ewg and from the sound of it the pwg is having issue.

That's really weird how he was able to get it. I'm EWG

[Zel335]

Originally Posted by F30_SixSpeed

FSociety is running the e30 map currently.

I think he is ewg and from the sound of it the pwg is having issue.

[FSociety]

For those wondering or questioning, I've been part of the best-testing since Thanksgiving weekend and it's been a great ride so far. By revision 2 my car was already running good. Each revision just kept adding more power while keeping everything else on check and healthy.
Patience is definitely a virtue and just bare with PTF.

I am EWG and not on E30 map per-say yet. Since BM3 can target as much boost up to 21-22psi on factory tmap, higher octane will help although the HPFP on N55 is weak and won't be able to keep up with the demand this is why everyone even in the jb4 scene goes Meth or PI for anywhere 18+ psi.

Doesn't hurt to run E30 whatsoever, but just know that my BM3 93 Map outperform what I was doing with E30 on Jb4 before. Car pulls like crazy on 93, the extra octane will certainly help and make the car happier. Just remember, the PWG HPFP can run more E85 than EWG, and not all cars are the same.

Originally Posted by F30_SixSpeed

FSociety is running the e30 map currently.

Not yet, but I did get a little preview.

Originally Posted by Diskz

That's really weird how he was able to get it. I'm EWG

It's not ready yet and right now 93 Map is able to max out the HPFP, so you guys can log with small E85 mixtures if you want to increase the octane but remember E85 will require HPFP to work harder. Patience

Ultimately, anyone wanting the most power out of stock turbo or even upgrade will have to go with Meth or PI as HPFP is extremely weak when pushing power.

[Zel335]

Originally Posted by FSociety

For those wondering or questioning, I've been part of the best-testing since Thanksgiving weekend and it's been a great ride so far. By revision 2 my car was already running good. Each revision just kept adding more power while keeping everything else on check and healthy.
Patience is definitely a virtue and just bare with PTF.

I am EWG and not on E30 map per-say yet. Since BM3 can target as much boost up to 21-22psi on factory tmap, higher octane will help although the HPFP on N55 is weak and won't be able to keep up with the demand this is why everyone even in the jb4 scene goes Meth or PI for anywhere 18+ psi.

Doesn't hurt to run E30 whatsoever, but just know that my BM3 93 Map outperform what I was doing with E30 on Jb4 before. Car pulls like crazy on 93, the extra octane will certainly help and make the car happier. Just remember, the PWG HPFP can run more E85 than EWG, and not all cars are the same.

Not yet, but I did get a little preview.


It's not ready yet and right now 93 Map is able to max out the HPFP, so you guys can log with small E85 mixtures if you want to increase the octane but remember E85 will require HPFP to work harder. Patience

Ultimately, anyone wanting the most power out of stock turbo or even upgrade will have to go with Meth or PI as HPFP is extremely weak when pushing power.

Any recommendations for other maps we should get if we are pwg and have access to 91 and e85, e30, & e15?

[sicmadek]

Its just hard for me to believe that bm3 on 93 is faster than my car on map 5/7 on e40.

[J_MENIS]

Originally Posted by sicmadek

Its just hard for me to believe that bm3 on 93 is faster than my car on map 5/7 on e40.

My OTS 91 map feels slower than my E30/40 Map5.

Since it's in beta. Do we get tune revisions? I thought the OTS was one and done. No editing.

[sicmadek]

Originally Posted by J_MENIS

My OTS 91 map feels slower than my E30/40 Map5.

Since it's in beta. Do we get tune revisions? I thought the OTS was one and done. No editing.

You would need to log and send it to them. They should periodically send revisions based on the new discoveries .

[J_MENIS]

Originally Posted by sicmadek

You would need to log and send it to them. They should periodically send revisions based on the new discoveries .

This applies, even if I didn't get a custom tune through them?

[FSociety]

Saw a new link PTF added to their page
How to Activate Bootmod3

I almost though this was the Bootmod3 N55 discussion thread lol

Originally Posted by Zel335

Any recommendations for other maps we should get if we are pwg and have access to 91 and e85, e30, & e15?

PWG should start off with their daily preferred map/octane and since it has a better HPFP, you can experiment with adding some E and revise your logs HPFP (Target & Act)

Originally Posted by sicmadek

Its just hard for me to believe that bm3 on 93 is faster than my car on map 5/7 on e40.

If you were closer I wouldn't mind showing you
I'll be running a jb4 on map5/7 this week while I'm on 93; wish there were more cars (N55) that are willing to test and compare

Originally Posted by J_MENIS

My OTS 91 map feels slower than my E30/40 Map5.
Since it's in beta. Do we get tune revisions? I thought the OTS was one and done. No editing.

Of course it should, 91 map feels slower than your E30/E40 map5, and the reason why is look at your logs or throw it on a dyno to see the full picture. Your 91 is a safer / smoother powerband than E30/map5 (hits harder down low but falls usually faster. Remember E30 is already higher octane than 91 and 91 octane is horrible for power. Add some E to your 91 OTS map and revise your log.

And yes each OTS is slightly tweaked there are so many variants of the N55 that everyone won't get the same one and done.
Those living in 91 areas should add 1-2 gals to bring up their octane to 93, use the goodies E85 offers IMO.

Originally Posted by sicmadek

You would need to log and send it to them. They should periodically send revisions based on the new discoveries .

+1
Open a Support Ticket
https://bootmod3.atlassian.net/servicedesk with a good log 0-100, roll-120mph.

Originally Posted by J_MENIS

This applies, even if I didn't get a custom tune through them?

Correct

[J_MENIS]

Originally Posted by FSociety

Saw a new link PTF added to their page
How to Activate Bootmod3

I almost though this was the Bootmod3 N55 discussion thread lol

PWG should start off with their daily preferred map/octane and since it has a better HPFP, you can experiment with adding some E and revise your logs HPFP (Target & Act)

If you were closer I wouldn't mind showing you
I'll be running a jb4 on map5/7 this week while I'm on 93; wish there were more cars (N55) that are willing to test and compare

Of course it should, 91 map feels slower than your E30/E40 map5, and the reason why is look at your logs or throw it on a dyno to see the full picture. Your 91 is a safer / smoother powerband than E30/map5 (hits harder down low but falls usually faster. Remember E30 is already higher octane than 91 and 91 octane is horrible for power. Add some E to your 91 OTS map and revise your log.

And yes each OTS is slightly tweaked there are so many variants of the N55 that everyone won't get the same one and done.
Those living in 91 areas should add 1-2 gals to bring up their octane to 93, use the goodies E85 offers IMO.

+1
Preferably have a good email with your octane map, 0-100, roll-120mph.

Correct

Thanks for the replies.

So my final question now that I have BM3, is

Can I get the E30 OTS tune on PTF'a site? Or what is required in order for me to get it?

Also, if I were to stack the JB4 with BM3. What should I set the boost failsafe to?

[sicmadek]

Bm3 is just a $700+ gamble for me not knowing the outcome vs my jb4 results

[bmw5858]

Originally Posted by sicmadek

Bm3 is just a $700+ gamble for me not knowing the outcome vs my jb4 results

I'm in the same pattern! I have For now bms intake, full borla catback and running JB4 map 1. Ordered ER Catted downpipe, ER chargepipe and CTS intercooler. Will probably run map 5.

Here in quebec we have access to 94 octane on pump gaz. Wondering if BM3 93 octane will give me more gain, and if yes, how much?!

[sicmadek]

Originally Posted by bmw5858

I'm in the same pattern! I have For now bms intake, full borla catback and running JB4 map 1. Ordered ER Catted downpipe, ER chargepipe and CTS intercooler. Will probably run map 5.

Here in quebec we have access to 94 octane on pump gaz. Wondering if BM3 93 octane will give me more gain, and if yes, how much?!

Give me your borla! Or atleast sell it to me cheap ?

[harkes]

I think the general answer is: If you are happy with the way your car drives with JB4 - then I see no need for BM3.

My PWG car never ran well with stock map and JB4 - hence I tried the PTF BEF which luckily helped. What I got was a car where I could easier control boost through JB4, with a smoother operating gearbox, increased trim and DME BT targets so I now run FOL=0 and a lowered high rpm max ignition for safety. With regards to pure power my BM3/JB4 might actually be slower than stock/JB4 because of the lower ignition targets BUT, I am happy to trade that for safety and driveability.

[J_MENIS]

Originally Posted by harkes

I think the general answer is: If you are happy with the way your car drives with JB4 - then I see no need for BM3.

My PWG car never ran well with stock map and JB4 - hence I tried the PTF BEF which luckily helped. What I got was a car where I could easier control boost through JB4, with a smoother operating gearbox, increased trim targets so I now run FOL=0 and a lowered high rpm max ignition for safety. With regards to pure power my BM3/JB4 might actually be slower than stock/JB4 because of the lower ignition targets BUT, I am happy to trade that for safety and driveability.

What JB4 map do you run ? And fuel?

[harkes]

Originally Posted by J_MENIS

What JB4 map do you run ? And fuel?

I am running 98RON + 100% meth CM7+CM5. Map3.

[MrF30]

Anyone know when BM3 will be out of beta?

[J_MENIS]

Just put the JB4 back on. Spoke with Terry at BMS and was given the ok to try map 1 with E30.

I will post logs once i get it done.

-BM3 Stg2 91 Octane

[F30_SixSpeed]

Originally Posted by J_MENIS

Just put the JB4 back on. Spoke with Terry at BMS and was given the ok to try map 1 with E30.

I will post logs once i get it done.

-BM3 Stg2 91 Octane

Looking forward to the results. I think you will be okay as it also says you can stack on the PTF website FAQs.

https://www.protuningfreaks.com/pages/bootmod3-faq

Do you offer backend flashes to run with a JB4?
Yes. In fact our OTS Stage 1 and Stage 2 maps are great backend flashes as they raise load and torque targets far higher than stock allowing the DME and TCU to run as close to actual values as possible.