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      07-10-2017, 02:20 PM   #23
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This could be it! You think Lindsey played a role in this too?

It's funny how much i have complained over this quite mild and harmless bug, but today my friend's kids started to show symptoms. It's hilarious how my horrible week became a wrinkle the moment when i realized my friend is actually screwed. Things are so easy when not pregnant!
I bet it was Putin, you know he reads these posts.
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I bet it was Putin, you know he reads these posts.
But Lindsey Graham is hot, my mother-in-law says so. She would totally envy me if he was involved! Could putin and Lindsey collude and this was their joined effort?
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Graham hacked Putin's account then put the bug on you

Look positive, since you have to sick-baby-sit you can't go to MIL to work/not eat.
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This reminds me of a quote from our war time Prime Minister, Sir Winston Churchill.

"The fascists of the future, will be the anti-fascists".

They have become everything they purport to hate, but are too dumb to realise.


Churchill was never reported to have ever said those words, and the Churchill Society supports this.



I find it telling that a misquote in this very thread with this very subject matter is so mistakenly presented by one member, Lobb and then supported by the following people who appreciated the post:

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I'm glad someone else recognizes this too.
I realize that we're not here to fact check each other, but it just goes to show that even the most intelligent people will follow blindly for the sake of upholding an opinion they already hold. On the other side of that coin is the denial of information that does not uphold their opinions.

Lets examine another quote from Churchill:


"I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place."

-Winston Churchill, Peel Commission, 1937

As a part time liberal, I risk using the word "racist" should a conservative accuse me of being a "whiney bitch". I ask those same people what word they would use.


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They have become everything they purport to hate, but are too dumb to realise.
That typo is just the cherry on top isn't it?
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Churchill was never reported to have ever said those words, and the Churchill Society supports this.



I find it telling that a misquote in this very thread with this very subject matter is so mistakenly presented by one member, Lobb and then supported by the following people who appreciated the post:

Delta0311
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DonaldPump

and

Chihuahua




I realize that we're not here to fact check each other, but it just goes to show that even the most intelligent people will follow blindly for the sake of upholding an opinion they already hold. On the other side of that coin is the denial of information that does not uphold their opinions.

Lets examine another quote from Churchill:


"I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place."

-Winston Churchill, Peel Commission, 1937

As a part time liberal, I risk using the word "racist" should a conservative accuse me of being a "whiney bitch". I ask those same people what word they would use.


I leave you with these ever relevant and wise words:



That type is just the cherry on top isn't it?
Interesting view.
I am going to simply admit that I upheld a quote that I have heard attributed to Mr. Churchill. It has been so widely attributed to him that there is information stating that it is a common error.
Sorry I'm so dumb.

Now on the the rest. Nearly everyone in that day and time would be called racist based on our view of what is racist. He was simply a man of and in his time. And while his views are abhorrent they actually miss the true nature of societal conflict. The society with the best technology always wins. Societies of lower tech may temporarily oust the higher tech society, in the end, higher technology always wins.

Race has nothing to do with it.
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Sorry I'm so dumb.
Again, my point is that even intelligent people get misled:

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I realize that we're not here to fact check each other, but it just goes to show that even the most intelligent people will follow blindly for the sake of upholding an opinion they already hold. On the other side of that coin is the denial of information that does not uphold their opinions.
It's Lobb who used the word "dumb":

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He was simply a man of and in his time.
Indeed. Are we men of our time?
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Again, my point is that even intelligent people get misled:



It's Lobb who used the word "dumb":







Indeed. Are we men of our time?
You reused it, thereby taking ownership.
I like to think that I am, some agree, some disagree. I just believe heavily in individual determinism.
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Whatever I'm being blamed for, I claim the third amendment, or is it the first?

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Again, my point is that even intelligent people get misled:



It's Lobb who used the word "dumb":







Indeed. Are we men of our time?
You reused it, thereby taking ownership.
I like to think that I am, some agree, some disagree. I just believe heavily in individual determinism.
I also quoted and reused Churchill. I claim no ownership of that. Intent is determining factor here.

Furthermore if you are a believer in individual determinism than Churchill being a man of his time does not excuse him for his beliefs. By your standards, we judge based on the individual.
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You reused it, thereby taking ownership.
To clarify, if Lobb just called a group of people "dumb" because they were duped by a quote from a source they were unaware of, what do we call you, Delta0311, DonaldPump, and Chihuahua for falling for another quote? Isn't it a double standard that Lobb can call them dumb, but not you because you share a similar opinion?

I like to think Lobb is being unfair rather than you, Delta, Donald and Chihuahua being actually dumb. Maybe misinformed, but not necessarily "dumb".
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Whatever I'm being blamed for, I claim the third amendment, or is it the first?
Which amendment is the right to be wrong?
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Which amendment is the right to be wrong?
You're asking me?
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Antifa combat training. The fruity looking kid in green combat stance is priceless.




Just want to make sure I have this straight. Are these guys the violent, seething, murderous, Liberals that everyone is so worked up over? Really? These guys?

Floral print hats and a prosthetic leg. When will the terror stop?!

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Churchill was never reported to have ever said those words, and the Churchill Society supports this.



I find it telling that a misquote in this very thread with this very subject matter is so mistakenly presented by one member, Lobb and then supported by the following people who appreciated the post:

Delta0311
MKSixer
DonaldPump

and

Chihuahua




I realize that we're not here to fact check each other, but it just goes to show that even the most intelligent people will follow blindly for the sake of upholding an opinion they already hold. On the other side of that coin is the denial of information that does not uphold their opinions.

Lets examine another quote from Churchill:


"I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place."

-Winston Churchill, Peel Commission, 1937

As a part time liberal, I risk using the word "racist" should a conservative accuse me of being a "whiney bitch". I ask those same people what word they would use.


I leave you with these ever relevant and wise words:



That typo is just the cherry on top isn't it?

Yeah because I'm going to fact check to make sure every quote posted on here is accurate.
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Yeah because I'm going to fact check to make sure every quote posted on here is accurate.
No you're not. Thats the point.
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No you're not. Thats the point.
Eh I'm still way more accurate than CNN and I'm not even trying.
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Yeah because I'm going to fact check to make sure every quote posted on here is accurate.

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I realize that we're not here to fact check each other, but it just goes to show that even the most intelligent people will follow blindly for the sake of upholding an opinion they already hold. On the other side of that coin is the denial of information that does not uphold their opinions.
Just so you know what I meant.
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How is it ok to have this in the title of a thread? If I were to make a thread about how "insert racially charged epithet here" were stupid, I would be banned from the board. Yet someone can make a thread such as this is fine with the mods?
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How is it ok to have this in the title of a thread? If I were to make a thread about how "insert racially charged epithet here" were stupid, I would be banned from the board. Yet someone can make a thread such as this is fine with the mods?
What the fuck? What racial epithet did I use in the title of this thread? And what's wrong with retards? When I was in boot camp the DIs referred to us a retards all the damn time when we screwed up.
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How is it ok to have this in the title of a thread? If I were to make a thread about how "insert racially charged epithet here" were stupid, I would be banned from the board. Yet someone can make a thread such as this is fine with the mods?
What the fuck? What racial epithet did I use in the title of this thread? And what's wrong with retards? When I was in boot camp the DIs referred to us a retards all the damn time when we screwed up.
It's derogatory. If I was to say that someone who is actually mentally disabled is retarded, that's okay. I'm only stating their condition. I'm not putting them down. But if I yell at them, "hey retard" that's different. I should all someone by their name and not reduce them to their condition. Unless we are friends and we know each other like that.

When we call someone I disagree with a "retard" we are attempting to insult them by comparing them to something that is insulting. We are using the word in a way that insults. Again, its intention. It's reducing something that we should have more empathy for into an insult.

Besides, just because your DI called you one doesn't mean we should be using it in our daily language. Its tactless.

Hilariously, you committed something equally as erroneous when you supported a false quote in your own thread. Who's "retarded" now? Looks like you just fell into your own insult. Good job.
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This reminds me of a quote from our war time Prime Minister, Sir Winston Churchill.

"The fascists of the future, will be the anti-fascists".

They have become everything they purport to hate, but are too dumb to realise.


Churchill was never reported to have ever said those words, and the Churchill Society supports this.



I find it telling that a misquote in this very thread with this very subject matter is so mistakenly presented by one member, Lobb and then supported by the following people who appreciated the post:

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DonaldPump

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Chihuahua


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I'm glad someone else recognizes this too.
I realize that we're not here to fact check each other, but it just goes to show that even the most intelligent people will follow blindly for the sake of upholding an opinion they already hold. On the other side of that coin is the denial of information that does not uphold their opinions.

Lets examine another quote from Churchill:


"I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place."

-Winston Churchill, Peel Commission, 1937

As a part time liberal, I risk using the word "racist" should a conservative accuse me of being a "whiney bitch". I ask those same people what word they would use.


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They have become everything they purport to hate, but are too dumb to realise.
That typo is just the cherry on top isn't it?
Shouldn't we be debating the quote, not simply the attribution?

I agree with the quote; fascism seems to be embraced by the left, as they seem to constantly be attempting to silence their critics, rather than allowing them to speak. The mob mentality is essentially fascism.
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