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If you set the Sport mode config to Chassis only, you can always pop the shift lever into sport if you want the sport shift program, or go to Sport+ if you want the full bonkers throttle response too, although that disables DSC. Either of those are easy to get out of when it's time to cruise on the Interstate. Look we'd all like everything to be fully configurable but it's not likely to happen so we just have to find whatever is close enough.
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Just to make it clear, actually I am happy with the sport mode as it is. I don`t need really a customization. I only wish it shifts to 8 earlier at steady speeds (I didn`t know it was shifting at 100mph, i thought it was not using that gear at all.). Thats the only thing. And looking at gear ratios shows it won`t be a bad deicison. For example in city at a steady speed, sport mode keeps the rpm between 2000-2500 but on highway it jumps to 3000 rpm when you are cruising at 80mph. I thought that 8 would be the choice of most people who are cruising at 80mph. I don`t think anyone will cruise (steady speed not accerelarating) at 80 mph at 3000 rpm when there is one more gear to go (unless he makes money with the gallons he consume) with a manual trans. This is how I look at it.
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Of course it is not same. Based on the reviews on this forum on the sport setting it is as stiff as the sport suspension if not more. I haven`t driven F30 with a sport suspension so can`t compare.
It is still a paid option for the sport line so I believe it is a better setup than the sport suspension.
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My only right leg issue is if I drive more than an hour with my wallet in my back right pocket. With the sport seats I have to take the wallet out before driving if the drive is going to be more than an hour or I die. Once it is out I can sit in that seat for 24 hours straight and be fine.
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12-10-2012, 05:16 PM | #51 | |
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"2. When I look at the ratios of manual 6 and auto 8. A8=M6 A7=M5 A6=M4 The extra 2 is not 7 and 8 really. They are in between 1 and 6. " The MT has 6 speed/forward ratios. It's 6th gear is an "over drive" gear. The AT has 8 speed/forward ratios. 7th and 8th in the AT are "over drive" gears. The gears are not between the different transmissions because they are different gear ratios. Also, the final drives are not the same. The only comparison that can be made is the 6th gear is over drive for the MT, and the AT has 2 over drive gears 7th and 8th. What does this mean? The extra 2 is not 7 and 8 really. They are in between 1 and 6. Last edited by RPM90; 12-10-2012 at 05:38 PM.. |
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12-10-2012, 05:26 PM | #52 | |
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M adaptive is an option even on top of the sport suspension. The adaptive suspension uses at least the same spring rates as the sport suspension. The added feature with M adaptive is that the dampers are able to respond to a wider range of road conditions. With M adaptive in "sport" mode the suspension is as firm as the stock sport suspension, but the adaptive dampers are better. In "comfort" mode, the ride is as smooth as the non sport suspension, but it's even better controlled due to the adaptive dampers, plus you still have the shorter and firmer springs that Lux and Modern don't get. The sport suspension comes standard with my Msport. I had to pay extra/upgrade to get the M adaptive. |
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Sport is set to "chassis" only, which gives firmer steering, sport suspension setting with comfort throttle and comfort trans. I'd like to add the more responsive throttle to this setup, but alas, no go. Sport+ is a fun weekend driving mode. BTW, sport+ doesn't disable DSC. It turns on DTC, but DSC is still working in the background just at a lower nanny level. To get more configuration settings we have to speak up. If we don't ask for them, then that a sure way to not get them. Audi offers it's customers with their "drive select" and "individual" setup where the driver can pick and choose what settings he wants. That's all I'm asking for. |
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Excellent knowledge as always RPM, can always rely on you to clear up misinformation in a thread
There's a lot of confusion about the adaptive m sport suspension, probably because the dealers don't really know fully what it is, and there aren't many demonstrators about to actually try it in! The way I thought of it was it was "better" at both ends: better in comfort than standard (non sport) suspension, and better in sport than sport (or M Sport, both being the same) suspension. 'Better' in each case meaning a smoother, more compliant ride in comfort, and much sharper handling in sport, and both settings coupled with more body control and poise (and not at the expense of ride comfort). And additionally, as they are 'adaptive' - meaning they're constantly adapting to the road conditions, rather than just being able to change between two settings - in both settings they're much more intelligent, and will get the best out of every road surface, in both settings. I missed it off my options list at first, but then added it later after reading up. After the good comments everyone gives on the adaptive suspension, I'm very glad I chose to add it. I'm hoping to pick up my car next week, and can't wait to try it...
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After these discussions I observed the shift points at Sport mode. Usually it keeps the car between 2000-2500 at steady speeds. It does not drop below 2000 when upshifting. It can do this because the gears are close enough. As I observed there is a higher Gap between 7 and 8. Looking at the shift pattern trought 3 to 7, it needs to shift 8 somewhere between 75-80 mph. This would be worse since most of the highway driving is between 70 and 80. Probably to prevent frequent up/down shift at highway driving they pushed the shift point for 8 to the higher rpms than the other gears.
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Check out the BMW configurator. You can buy sportline and it comes with the sport suspension. Than you can add adaptive m suspension and variable steering as an option for $1000. If the sport suspension is an upgrade to adaptive m suspension there wouldn`t be an option to buy it on sports line. In some European countries (may be most) sport suspension does not come with the sportline. Sport suspension is a stand alone option and the price is less than the price of the adaptive m suspension.
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but sorry not a good one. I will take another one without the gauges lit.
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I thought BMW made a change for MY2013 where they wouldn't let the Luxury line cars get the light colored dash + light steering wheel? |
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It is not luxury line, it is modern line. The change was for the black interior cars. Black interior modern lines used to get light color dash and steering wheel but now they get black wheel and black dash with black seats. Oyster color seats still get the light color wheel and dash.
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In low gears, such as second, the engine output shaft turns more quickly than the drive shaft. This provides more effective torque to the rear wheels. As one shifts to higher gears, the engine output shaft turns slower for a given speed. For the automatic transmission, seven and eight are overdrive gears. Sixth gear is 1:1. That is, in seven and eight the engine output shaft turns slower than the drive shaft. In sixth, the engine output shaft and drive shaft turn at the same speed. For the 335 MT, sixth is the only overdrive gear, fifth is 1:1. For the 328 MT, fifth and sixth are overdrive, fourth is 1:1. (For the curious, the final drive ratio of the MT 328 is 3.91:1. For the 335, 3.23) |
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