F30POST
F30POST
2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST > Technical Forums > N20, N26, B46, B48 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications > 328i JB4 (Stage2) E85, 13.0@109 Run
GetBMWParts
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-19-2013, 06:33 AM   #1
Mike@N54Tuning.com
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
Canada
4901
Rep
115,955
Posts


Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: N54tuning.com

iTrader: (89)

328i JB4 (Stage2) E85, 13.0@109 Run

Some more updates for the Stage2

BMS was out doing some VBOX testing with the 328i. 0-60 in 4.6s and a best 1/4 mile time of 13.0@109. Knocking on 12s door.

The car is still completely stock other than the JB4 and E50 fuel. This was using map 7 which peaks at 23psi.

They are planning to do some pump gas dyno testing later this week.

Appreciate 0
      03-19-2013, 06:53 AM   #2
Turboedv6
Private First Class
10
Rep
176
Posts

Drives: '13 Apline White Sportline 328
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Boston, MA

iTrader: (0)

Looks good Mike! Can't wait!
__________________
2019 Ibis White/Red S4
1997 Nissan Skyline GTR V-SPEC

Last edited by Turboedv6; 03-19-2013 at 11:17 AM..
Appreciate 0
      03-19-2013, 07:43 AM   #3
bnekic
First Lieutenant
20
Rep
371
Posts

Drives: 2013 328i xDrive Sport Line
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Cleveland, OH

iTrader: (1)

Awesome, can't wait to get stage 2!
Appreciate 0
      03-19-2013, 06:40 PM   #4
RSXDC5
Captain
RSXDC5's Avatar
704
Rep
886
Posts

Drives: M3
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Scottsdale, AZ

iTrader: (0)

Awesome results!! Throw on a turbo-back exhaust and some better tires and you are EASILY in the 12's!
__________________
2015 M3 - AW 6Spd w/ CCB
MCS 2WR Dampers, Spec Twin Disk Clutch, MaxPSI CH, F80Paul Ethanol Tune, 3.5in DPs
Appreciate 0
      03-19-2013, 08:15 PM   #5
ixse
Major
238
Rep
1,022
Posts

Drives: 2015 boxster s
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: CA

iTrader: (0)

do you have to use E50?.. why not just go for E85 tune?
please tell me tune will be avail for N26 & manuals ~
Appreciate 0
      03-19-2013, 09:17 PM   #6
Casualvic
Private First Class
26
Rep
185
Posts

Drives: 328i xdrive
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Missouri

iTrader: (0)

What mode where you on? Comfort, sport, or eco?
Appreciate 0
      03-19-2013, 09:23 PM   #7
Turboedv6
Private First Class
10
Rep
176
Posts

Drives: '13 Apline White Sportline 328
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Boston, MA

iTrader: (0)

I'm sure he was in sport mode, unless he was going for most mpg in a 1/4 mile.
__________________
2019 Ibis White/Red S4
1997 Nissan Skyline GTR V-SPEC
Appreciate 0
      03-19-2013, 09:30 PM   #8
Jamesons Viggen
Brigadier General
United_States
193
Rep
3,780
Posts

Drives: '98 M Roadster stg 2+ S/C
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Rochester Hills MI

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Turboedv6 View Post
I'm sure he was in sport mode, unless he was going for most mpg in a 1/4 mile.
The modes are indistinguishable at wot, so you can dyno in any of the the modes and make the same power. So if your are flooring it, it does not matter.
__________________

'98 Dinan/RMS stage 2+(VAC cams, CES Cutring etc)
'15 Buick Regal "T"(wife)
'06 Saab 9-5 Combi 5mt (full suspension, LSD, clipped turbo etc)
Appreciate 0
      03-19-2013, 09:35 PM   #9
Turboedv6
Private First Class
10
Rep
176
Posts

Drives: '13 Apline White Sportline 328
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Boston, MA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen View Post
The modes are indistinguishable at wot, so you can dyno in any of the the modes and make the same power. So if your are flooring it, it does not matter.

I know, it was just a failed attempt at humor.
__________________
2019 Ibis White/Red S4
1997 Nissan Skyline GTR V-SPEC
Appreciate 0
      03-19-2013, 09:37 PM   #10
Casualvic
Private First Class
26
Rep
185
Posts

Drives: 328i xdrive
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Missouri

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Turboedv6 View Post
I'm sure he was in sport mode, unless he was going for most mpg in a 1/4 mile.
I have to admit...... that was hilarious!!!!!
Appreciate 0
      03-19-2013, 09:40 PM   #11
Turboedv6
Private First Class
10
Rep
176
Posts

Drives: '13 Apline White Sportline 328
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Boston, MA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Casualvic View Post
I have to admit...... that was hilarious!!!!!

Cmonnnnnn
__________________
2019 Ibis White/Red S4
1997 Nissan Skyline GTR V-SPEC
Appreciate 0
      03-19-2013, 09:49 PM   #12
Casualvic
Private First Class
26
Rep
185
Posts

Drives: 328i xdrive
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Missouri

iTrader: (0)

You should do standup comedy...it was funny though
Appreciate 0
      03-19-2013, 09:52 PM   #13
Turboedv6
Private First Class
10
Rep
176
Posts

Drives: '13 Apline White Sportline 328
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Boston, MA

iTrader: (0)

I'll give it a shot some time
__________________
2019 Ibis White/Red S4
1997 Nissan Skyline GTR V-SPEC
Appreciate 0
      03-20-2013, 01:20 AM   #14
Joshhleee
///M Enthusiast
Joshhleee's Avatar
United_States
30
Rep
357
Posts

Drives: '12 F30, '15 x5 5.0, '15 M4,M5
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Los Angeles, California

iTrader: (0)

yayyy, and this does work for the n26, just leave the first port unconnected. cant wait to see the pump fuel results.
Appreciate 0
      03-20-2013, 03:52 AM   #15
tiltmode43
I plead the 5th.
tiltmode43's Avatar
United_States
523
Rep
1,519
Posts

Drives: '18 Frontier Pro-4X, '06 Z4MR
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (10)

It's only a matter of time!

I vow to dyno within a week of receiving this tune.

If I'm lucky, BMS will need an N26 for Beta
__________________
-Matt

| Z4M Build Thread | @violetnites | flickr |
Appreciate 0
      03-20-2013, 04:35 AM   #16
Turboedv6
Private First Class
10
Rep
176
Posts

Drives: '13 Apline White Sportline 328
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Boston, MA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by tiltmode43 View Post
It's only a matter of time!

I vow to dyno within a week of receiving this tune.

If I'm lucky, BMS will need an N26 for Beta

I'm going strait to the track fueld by C16 and maybe some LOL gas.
__________________
2019 Ibis White/Red S4
1997 Nissan Skyline GTR V-SPEC
Appreciate 0
      03-20-2013, 06:05 AM   #17
Mike@N54Tuning.com
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
Canada
4901
Rep
115,955
Posts


Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: N54tuning.com

iTrader: (89)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ixse View Post
do you have to use E50?.. why not just go for E85 tune?
please tell me tune will be avail for N26 & manuals ~
I'm not sure the tuning can handle straight E85 so they are mixing it with pump gas for these results.

Mike
Appreciate 0
      03-25-2013, 06:28 PM   #18
BRM6
Private First Class
BRM6's Avatar
Brazil
11
Rep
182
Posts

Drives: 328/335/M235i/M4 - Current M6
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: BR & PT

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com View Post
I'm not sure the tuning can handle straight E85 so they are mixing it with pump gas for these results.

Mike
Which makes it even more interesting for me... We got E everywhere!
Appreciate 0
      03-25-2013, 08:48 PM   #19
krnnerdboy
Colonel
krnnerdboy's Avatar
United_States
190
Rep
2,431
Posts

Drives: v10 m6
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: so cal

iTrader: (10)

Hey terry,
If you need a beta tester for the n26 lmk. I can do irwindale runs for the 1/8th times. I beta tested your n52 and n55 tunes! And ill dyno it at eas
__________________

F80 m3, 997 gt3, 14 ram ctd, f15 x5, drz400sm

Gone:z4m, boss 302, c6 z06, m6,z3m
Appreciate 0
      08-07-2013, 09:34 PM   #20
F32
Banned
20
Rep
688
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: SF

iTrader: (0)

Wanted to resurrect this post because I found it interesting...was this car a manual or auto? I'm curious to see updated VBox figures as well. I'm sure the Stage 2 tune has been tweaked a bit since March, so that alone should be good for 12s at 110+. With a turbo-back on top, this setup should move.

I'm curious what the limiting factor is for testing on a higher mix of E85. Is straight E85 in the tank out of the question or perhaps too risky for the fuel-system?
Appreciate 0
      08-07-2013, 11:15 PM   #21
RSXDC5
Captain
RSXDC5's Avatar
704
Rep
886
Posts

Drives: M3
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Scottsdale, AZ

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by F32 View Post
Wanted to resurrect this post because I found it interesting...was this car a manual or auto? I'm curious to see updated VBox figures as well. I'm sure the Stage 2 tune has been tweaked a bit since March, so that alone should be good for 12s at 110+. With a turbo-back on top, this setup should move.

I'm curious what the limiting factor is for testing on a higher mix of E85. Is straight E85 in the tank out of the question or perhaps too risky for the fuel-system?
Hopefully I can answer your question a bit...my car is completely stock with the exception of the JB4 Stage2. I have tried Map1/Map2/Map7...

To get to the desired 100oct to run Map7, I mixed my 91oct with 45-50% E85 (~105oct) as recommended. I can't speak for the N20 engine, but the N26 that I have will not successfully work with a 45-50% E85 mix while close to or at WOT. The engine hesitates, studders, and bogs down. To troubleshoot at the time, I switched to Map2 and then Map1, all Maps had the same problem. Once I filled up again, I blended my 91oct with enough E85 (roughly 15%) to get to 93oct so I could run Map2. Once I did this, all problems went away...this applies to Map1 as well. In the future, if I would like to run Map7 again, I'll have to fill up with 100% (traditional) 100oct.
__________________
2015 M3 - AW 6Spd w/ CCB
MCS 2WR Dampers, Spec Twin Disk Clutch, MaxPSI CH, F80Paul Ethanol Tune, 3.5in DPs
Appreciate 0
      08-07-2013, 11:32 PM   #22
JN1
Lieutenant Colonel
JN1's Avatar
301
Rep
1,591
Posts

Drives: S211 AMG E63
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Los Angeles CA

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Turboedv6 View Post
I'm sure he was in sport mode, unless he was going for most mpg in a 1/4 mile.
I almost fell out of my chair laughing.

For my own records, I ran a baseline on my 335i a couple weeks ago and installing BMS Stage 1 tomorrow then throwing it back on the dyno. Planning on recording any upgrades as I go along so that I can see the differences as well. I'll post up charts tomorrow night when I get them from EAS.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BRN55 View Post
Which makes it even more interesting for me... We got E everywhere!
Not looking for Molly, then? LOL
__________________
-JustinNApproved
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:02 AM.




f30post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST