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RWD | 24 | 18.46% | |
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Doesn't matter - RWD is sufficient | 50 | 38.46% | |
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04-20-2012, 10:41 AM | #23 | |
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Good point. I remember driving in deep snow with my e46 and it got stuck when the snow was deep enough under the car that it lifted all four wheels off of the ground. in that case, AWD wouldn't have helped. I needed a taller car.
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04-20-2012, 10:46 AM | #24 |
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Am I correct in thinking that "snow tyres" and "winter tyres" in this context are the same thing?
Anyway, my understanding was that, in general, you should fit the winter rubber once the temp drops below 7C / 45F? Personally, I will be switching tyres in about October and then again in March. Here is a link to the previous thread on this subject for those who are interested: http://www.f30post.com/forums/showth...ght=snow+tyres |
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04-20-2012, 10:59 AM | #26 | |
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04-20-2012, 11:47 AM | #27 | |
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04-20-2012, 12:43 PM | #28 | |
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they should atleast just give the option for AWD plus sport susp. and let the cutomer decide. |
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04-20-2012, 12:53 PM | #29 | |
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And understand, im just speaking from my experience in my locale that with the north east winters we get up here, Im able to use the M6 year round with just a set of winter rims and tires, and I find they meet my needs.
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04-20-2012, 02:15 PM | #30 |
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There's no doubt xDrive helps but I don't think it's a requirement. If Chicago is anything like New England (I think they're similar?) then a good set of snows is all you need.
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04-20-2012, 02:23 PM | #31 |
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xdrive is dead weight. I would get it it only in remote regions and Chicago does not qualify at all.. I have a RWD E90 with snow tires in a much worse environment and it is a joy to drive in the snow. The electronics TC/ESP does wonder.
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04-20-2012, 06:45 PM | #32 |
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Michelin Alpine 3. Run them Nov 15 to March 15 each year and you will be fine.
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04-20-2012, 08:01 PM | #33 | |
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If you have two sets, go for maximum summer performance and maximum winter/ice tires. RWD is fun in the winter with serious tires. |
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04-21-2012, 10:38 AM | #35 |
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It really depends on your need, if you can skip work or work at home during a snow strom, then RWD with snow is fine. I am condering an essential personel where I work I need to be there rain or shine. In my situation, AWD is a bit better than RWD. If its a real bad winter, I still have the option of installing snow tires on my AWD.
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04-21-2012, 11:32 AM | #36 |
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Question for some of you who have snows on a BMW. Do you have TPMS sensors installed? On my old G37 I didn't and it worked fine. You'd get the error signal when you first started the car, but that was it.
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04-22-2012, 08:45 AM | #37 |
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I live in NYC, when I got my 06 E90 330i, we got hit with not a high accumulation of snow, but several snowstorms in that winter. My house and driveway have a massive slant, and it was a hassle trying to get my RWD car up my driveway, even with 1/2 in to 1 inch of powder on the driveway. A Couple of times my neighbor had to help push my car up the driveway. Get the XDrive it's worth the extra $1,700.
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I know in the 5 series, the previous generation (E60) AWD cars did not offer a sport suspension but the new generation (F10) do. Thanks Bruce |
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04-22-2012, 12:59 PM | #39 |
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I'm pretty sure you need xdrive in Denver if you go into the mountains allot. I dont know if I would drive a rwd with snow tires going up the continental divide on I70 while driving in a blizzard .
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04-22-2012, 03:16 PM | #40 |
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I'm waiting for the 335 Xdrive. I've driven 3s and 5s with RWD and Xdrive and my opinion is that the Xdrive is a win-win; you lose virtually none of the feel of a RWD (unless you're an extreme driver, pushing it to the limits) and instantly noticeable control in winter. General consensus among the trade reviewers is quite positive for BMW's AWD system.
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04-22-2012, 04:07 PM | #41 |
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I not not sure about the F30, but I know the F10 has a sport suspension but the E90 does not.
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12-19-2012, 07:14 PM | #42 |
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I am seriously considering a 2012 F30 RWD and am seriously concerned about the winters here (Toronto Area).
I know last winter wasn't much of a reflection, but I wonder how this car would be in a normal Toronto winter with RWD and winter tires. |
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12-19-2012, 07:20 PM | #43 | |
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If money is an issue take it easy out there and go RWD and snow tires. If not go xDrive. There is very little or no sex left in RWD as a default for drive feel these days since the xDrive is virtually perfected. And xDrive is EXCELLENT in slippery conditions. |
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12-19-2012, 08:04 PM | #44 |
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If you accept the premise that snow tires are required for safe winter driving in snow and ice conditions, then I would suggest, based on my 28 years of driving RWD BMWs, that Xdrive is not necessary. However, if you live in an area that receives heavy snowfall, over several months, then Xdrive would be the preferred choice.
Here in Vancouver, we tend to get heavy, wet snow, like we did last night and most of today. This wet snow packs down to form ice, 1"-2" thick that sticks to the road surface. So today became the first real test for driving my new RWD 335i M Sport on dreadful winter roads: how did it perform ? Equipped with 18" Pirelli 240 Sottozero II winter tires, my car handled incredibly well. I was able to drive around numerous SUVs that were obviously equipped with all-seasons or perhaps even summer tires. Many front wheel drive cars with all-seasons were sliding sideways down icy hills, while my car, with the DSC Traction set to OFF, pressed on with no problems going up or down hills. At no time did I wish that I had been driving a Xdrive, even when ploughing through some drifts of heavy snow up to 8" deep. My car maintained good control and never got stuck. If fact, despite the sluggish pace of traffic on some roads, the whole experience was fun and the handling of my 335i was inspiring !
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