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      03-27-2014, 06:08 AM   #89
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That car's tires have a wider sidewall in contrast to the rim than you usually see on a bmw. Maybe they got tired of the test drivers curbing rims
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I hope to see the best in:

Suspension:

we need to make some revisions to the 335i, with a firmer cushioning.
One air suspension takes to compete with the new C-Class.
And finally a system of active anti-roll bars reduce body roll.
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I love that none of you made the connection that maybe this isn't *all* the changes they are planning.
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      03-27-2014, 09:52 AM   #92
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Guarantee we get LED taillights. Might likely not covered yet because they haven't fitted the test mule with them yet. That simple.
Really hope so. Otherwise, no thanks. Our taillight is an embarrassment especially when pulled beside the new Audi and Mercedes.

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I love that none of you made the connection that maybe this isn't *all* the changes they are planning.
That may be the case, but it is not typical of BMW to test certain parts of the planned upgrades and leave other parts to be tested later.
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      03-27-2014, 10:48 AM   #94
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That may be the case, but it is not typical of BMW to test certain parts of the planned upgrades and leave other parts to be tested later.
Maybe he means internal improvements. I bet they add CarPlay, some kind of extra safety feature, and maybe some HUD improvements.
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      03-27-2014, 12:31 PM   #95
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No LCI for F8x - correct.

Engine situation described by Jason is specific to the US market. EU will have more engines and their diesels will be replaced with B37/B47.
Hopefully you're right, and they'll have a power and efficiency hike
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      03-27-2014, 01:09 PM   #96
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That may be the case, but it is not typical of BMW to test certain parts of the planned upgrades and leave other parts to be tested later.
+1 very unlike BMW. I can recall even for the LCI E90, there were photos of early prototypes where the rear tail lights were covered to protect the new L shape and LED addition. We have to remember too that only the E46 LCI coupe received rear LED tail lights. The F30 may be like the E46 and not receive any major upgrades to the rear tail lights.
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Maybe he means internal improvements. I bet they add CarPlay, some kind of extra safety feature, and maybe some HUD improvements.
I really wish M-Sport cars would get the M type HUD that has more performance related displays.
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      03-28-2014, 12:40 PM   #98
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was hoping that they would get rid of that god-awful design with the headlight flowing into the grille thing. looks like i won't be coming back to bmw for awhile. porsche, here i come.
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      03-30-2014, 10:38 AM   #99
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Really hope so. Otherwise, no thanks. Our taillight is an embarrassment especially when pulled beside the new Audi and Mercedes.

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LOL Maybe Mercedes but Audi? With those Christmas lights? Audi's have the worst taillight and headlight design - they try too hard to be different, you don't need both bars and small LED's. Whether they be LED bars or not, in daylight and at night, they look better than what Mercedes has and definitely a lot better than what Audi has.
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I like the LED tails on my 335xi, but I have to disagree, and think Audi does a much better job at light design. Have you seen any newer Audis? They have moved from individual diodes, to "light tube" design. And unlike cheap/stupid (insert whatever word you like) BMW who refuses to use LEDs for turn indicators until LCI, the Audi's are in safe, bright, fast operating LED form.

Fun fact: on the 5 series (F10) they had LED front turns...after the LCI- and the addition of LED headlights- they decided to omit LED turns...baffles my mind...
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      05-04-2014, 12:46 AM   #103
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I know we don't know the stats of the new B48 engine on the 320i. From what I've read it's around 200hp, gets around 40mpg, and it's in the same family as the Mini S. Maybe someone can explain how this will be better since you can tune the current N20 or am I missing something???
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Start of production summer "2014?" as a 2015 model year?
Jason said Production on LCI starts in 2015, that means Model Year 2016.
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Maybe they'll FINALLY make backup camera and parking sensors, standard?!?!?! Was shocked when I came over from Infiniti that Driver Assist package was a $950 option.

IMO, I couldn't care less about the side/top view cameras, but back up cam and sensors??

Also, as much as I "want" (selfishly because I JUST got mine) to disagree that it'll get a +30hp bump during a refresh, there is talk about Audi bringing the RS4 back so matching up to the S4 makes some sense.
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Maybe they'll FINALLY make backup camera and parking sensors, standard?!?!?! Was shocked when I came over from Infiniti that Driver Assist package was a $950 option.
It's a German car...they'll never do that. We're lucky seats come standard.
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It's a German car...they'll never do that. We're lucky seats come standard.
Agreed! But, I heard it is going to be mandatory in the US from 2016 on? I could be wrong about that.
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      05-14-2014, 09:44 AM   #108
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Agreed! But, I heard it is going to be mandatory in the US from 2016 on? I could be wrong about that.
It's slated to be last I checked, unless it gets pushed back again. They'll still charge extra for the parking sensors.
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When it's mandated it'll be added to the sticker price. At least now you have an option not to add the camera.
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      05-15-2014, 09:21 PM   #110
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When it's mandated it'll be added to the sticker price. At least now you have an option not to add the camera.
I read something about the mandatory backup camera a few weeks ago and the article said the cost-per-car to add them is around $45.

If that's correct, BMW will only add $700 to the MSRP so it will be a good deal, right?
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