[f30luxline]

Originally Posted by rustyminded

so you basically have an FBO, did you dyno your car ?!

Is this a joke?

[rustyminded]

Originally Posted by f30luxline

Is this a joke?

lmaoI forgot that it was you that had this dyno post. sorry man my bad

[PedM5]

Originally Posted by f30luxline

Couple things I noticed compared to MY2012

1 - Baseline numbers are lower than MY2012 @ 241/263
2 - The pulls seemed quite short....what was your top speed?
3 - From my calculation using the charts shown you had gained: 21hp/67ft-lb and not the 46/69 you claimed.


There is no compilation on who has the most power. From my time around here I would have to say Evolution Racewerks is in 1st place with myself closely behind in 2nd.

1 - Car is on california 91 pump and we rarely get cool days at the dyno.
2 - dynos were done in 4th gear, 5th just took forever but showed higher numbers
3 - peak to peak you are right but the largest delta which is highlighted in the video is 46 and 69, occurs at a relatively low rpm (3500)

side note is the salesman at the dealership said it felt faster than a 335. I'll have a 335 on the dyno soon and see how they compare but that would be surprising.

[Sherhart]

I think the most important thing said in this thread is that they have cracked the ECU encryption.

@PedM5 can you confirm? If that's true, we are in the early days of finding out what these cars can do.

Jimbo

[PedM5]

Originally Posted by Sherhart

I think the most important thing said in this thread is that they have cracked the ECU encryption.

@PedM5 can you confirm? If that's true, we are in the early days of finding out what these cars can do.

Jimbo

Oh yes I thought this was public knowledge sorry for not specifying that. Actual ECU flash, the N20 engines actually have the same ECU has the F10/F13 (except the v8's run 2 ecu's) It's a Bosch MEVD17 variant which is the toughest encryption to crack in existence today.

Here's a video of the beta version of the tune vs an M-sport 328i:

The car made another 20wtq and 10whp after this video with greatly improved top end.

The problem plaguing the car is insufficient cooling, it heat soaks quite bad but the tune largely mitigated that issue by modifying parameters that preemptively limit power based on intake air temperature. If you run the tuned car 3x back to back and stock back to back the tuned car will retain more power than stock and much better than a piggyback equipped car.

Here is also a video of an M6 at shift sector running the jailbreak tune

[rustyminded]

Originally Posted by PedM5

Oh yes I thought this was public knowledge sorry for not specifying that. Actual ECU flash, the N20 engines actually have the same ECU has the F10/F13 (except the v8's run 2 ecu's) It's a Bosch MEVD17 variant which is the toughest encryption to crack in existence today.

Here's a video of the beta version of the tune vs an M-sport 328i:

The car made another 20wtq and 10whp after this video with greatly improved top end.

The problem plaguing the car is insufficient cooling, it heat soaks quite bad but the tune largely mitigated that issue by modifying parameters that preemptively limit power based on intake air temperature. If you run the tuned car 3x back to back and stock back to back the tuned car will retain more power than stock and much better than a piggyback equipped car.

Here is also a video of an M6 at shift sector running the jailbreak tune

wow. what a difference this is serious tuning, I've watched a video N20 FBO vs. stock your car almost made that difference, do you think it's detectable by dealer ?!

[f30luxline]

Originally Posted by rustyminded

lmaoI forgot that it was you that had this dyno post. sorry man my bad

I was being sarcastic I thought you would be up to date on dyno videos

[goon]

So is this still in experimental stage or is someone offering this as a product we can purchase?

[rustyminded]

Originally Posted by f30luxline

I was being sarcastic I thought you would be up to date on dyno videos

damn it you owe me for that, where is the link for dyno with FMIC ?

[f30luxline]

Originally Posted by rustyminded

lmaoI forgot that it was you that had this dyno post. sorry man my bad

Originally Posted by rustyminded

damn it you owe me for that, where is the link for dyno with FMIC ?

Haven't done one yet. I was going to after install but then found out ER was in R&D for the hot side pipes so I decided to wait.

Should be on the dyno next Thursday if ER returns my pipes buy then.

[rustyminded]

Originally Posted by f30luxline

Haven't done one yet. I was going to after install but then found out ER was in R&D for the hot side pipes so I decided to wait.

Should be on the dyno next Thursday if ER returns my pipes buy then.

I am curious becuz fred said with their fmic it made huge difference & that's on 91, let's hope he is right esp. that you use E40 & map7.. did you wonder what would your car be like with all that+software flash

[f30luxline]

Originally Posted by rustyminded

I am curious becuz fred said with their fmic it made huge difference & that's on 91, let's hope he is right esp. that you use E40 & map7.. did you wonder what would your car be like with all that+software flash

I've been a little curious and am on the fence of skepticism and optimism. I can't really tell the difference from a single pull before and after the IC. Mostly what I notice as stated before is that the 5th pull pulls just as hard as the first. This tells me that heat soak has been almost completely eliminated. We shall see soon!!

[tboooe]

What I dont get is Dinan has not been able to crack the ECU but this company has?

[Level3]

Vivid Racing has this that supposedly tunes F30 ECU as well but haven't heard anything about it much.

http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/2...150786070.html

[rustyminded]

Originally Posted by Level3

Vivid Racing has this that supposedly tunes F30 ECU as well but haven't heard anything about it much.

http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/2...150786070.html

That's interesting because when I emailed jailbreak tuning about tuning via flash, they said it does NOT exist for F series.. period.

[ngbernie]

Is this an OBD flash? Bench flashes via ECU removal have already been out for half a year

[Sherhart]

Originally Posted by rustyminded

fred said with their fmic it made huge difference & that's on 91

Not surprised based on your heatsoak comment above. If that's true, they have really undersized the stock I/C. My old Subaru with that shitty little stock TMIC had no issues with a VF34 setup. But again I had true engine management with Cobb and a dyno tune.

I'm surprised there is not more excitement in this thread - maybe you should have these guys start a new one? If the ECU is cracked and we can really control all aspects, this will be a fun car to own vs. a nice daily driver.

Jimbo

[f30luxline]

Originally Posted by Sherhart

Not surprised based on your heatsoak comment above. If that's true, they have really undersized the stock I/C. My old Subaru with that shitty little stock TMIC had no issues with a VF34 setup. But again I had true engine management with Cobb and a dyno tune.

I'm surprised there is not more excitement in this thread - maybe you should have these guys start a new one? If the ECU is cracked and we can really control all aspects, this will be a fun car to own vs. a nice daily driver.

Jimbo

The lack of attention is coming from the lack of data and information being provided. Cracking the ECU is a huge benchmark and the OP needs to lay everything out on the table. There have been many hoaxes in the last 15 months that I have been around and none of them have solidified.

As I have said it before, I am big on seeing legitimate data. The OP needs to provide all of what data tables are available. Ignition being the first table I would like to see.

[Seraphblade@sg]

Originally Posted by f30luxline

Although dyno #'s are variable and subjective you should still be able to get a ballpark. Considering myself and ER are very close in #'s I could very well have the most power


or


not

There are some cars I know running upgraded turbos, fmic, meth, dp,and jb4 in my country. But they are not around these forums. They could probably pull more power out..

[f30luxline]

Originally Posted by Seraphblade@sg

There are some cars I know running upgraded turbos, fmic, meth, dp,and jb4 in my country. But they are not around these forums. They could probably pull more power out..

Are you using the words "i know" as in you personally know them?

I call BS without pics. I work for a well respected company with a facility in SG. I have numerous colleagues there who are BMW fanatics but have never heard this story but who knows.

These mods should provide more power no doubt but I'm skeptical.

[Seraphblade@sg]

Originally Posted by f30luxline

Are you using the words "i know" as in you personally know them?

I call BS without pics. I work for a well respected company with a facility in SG. I have numerous colleagues there who are BMW fanatics but have never heard this story but who knows.

These mods should provide more power no doubt but I'm skeptical.

I know them personally. U can check out the workshop called M****l here that did the internal upgrades on the turbos. I was skeptical initially as well as I claim to be a forum dweller and ought to know any developments. Their internal upgrade is from some other oem (I do not know the OEM unfortunately). We have a workshop that brings in another taiwanese charge pipe which is not threadstone and the build is similar to ER's. The meth was installed by B*** M**********, (OEM is BMS). Only thing we are not on race gas. But this shows the potential of their build.

I have already acknowledged that my knowledge is limited and that the info on the forum is limited as well. There isn't much forums to start with in the first place. The cracking of the ECU was already around for a while, just that proof were limited and no one were willing to try as they were not Dinan or the more established brands.


On a separate note, cars here in sg are expensive and u shld know that since u work for a facility with links here. The 328i is around 245k sgd. which is around 170k usd (at the current exchange rate) the 335 is at 290k. And the m3 is at 420k (all sgd). Therefore for such a market, it makes sense to do more to the car then get a better car.

To make things worst, our cars are only for 10 years, we need to make a 50% cash downpayment and the bank loan for the other 50% has to be paid within 5 years.

[wolves]

Very exciting news indeed.