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Lucky, since I got my blizzaks on I've been praying for snow!
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12-11-2012, 10:21 AM | #25 |
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That wasn´t the most clever answer, you wanna compromise with safety? I can compromise with two extra doors (plus the ass on my F31 wagon ) but I would never compromise with safety or traction.
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12-11-2012, 10:25 AM | #26 |
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...and I already compromised with the RFT on my 403 M, that will soon be replaced with Goodyear F1 Asymmetric 2
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12-11-2012, 01:18 PM | #27 |
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We get plenty of sub-freezing temps here in Dallas. I also occasionally drive to CO or NM for skiing. So just the other day I swapped out the Pirelli summer tires with Pirelli all-seasons. I have no safety concerns about driving on all-seasons year-round, even when it hits 105F (40C) here. It's what I have on the S2000 unless I'm at an autocross or track day. (In fact for sheer fun I prefer the all-seasons.)
(Anybody want to buy a set of 225/45/18 Pirelli P7 summers with only 3400 miles, mostly highway?) |
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12-11-2012, 01:50 PM | #28 |
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If you dont want to compromise with safety, you should ride around in a snow mobile all winter, it has more traction in the snow than your BMW What you dont understand is that not everyone here is from Sweden. A lot of us are from warmer areas that only get a few inches of snow a year. In areas such as those, AWD with all season is fine and snow tires are over kill.
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12-11-2012, 02:17 PM | #29 |
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You're espousing exactly the same thing Vitoco said, though. Here's his quote:
"Guys, for your own safety, driving pleasure etc get yourself a proper SUMMER setup and leave the "all-seasons" for the winter. Seriously, think about it." |
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12-11-2012, 03:12 PM | #30 |
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Why would anyone want to switch between all season tires and summer tires? If I were to go thru the trouble of switching between two sets of tires, it will be summer and winter tires.
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12-11-2012, 05:39 PM | #31 |
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Who is talking about tires / tyres here? You can debate all you want for which rubber you like to kiss. Fact was that OP proved the OEM all season combined with xi set up worked in 10" of snow. Case closed!
Please don't patronize me about this as I coming from The proper RWD with snows in E46, E90 and X3 and X5 with all seasons for the wify. Wify convinced me to try a F30 335xi with all seasons this time. So did I without monkey around tires and wheels package twice a year. All in all, look forward to a white Xmas to play with my mspot 335xi. |
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In the winter, all-seasons provide less grip than winters, but are still more than manageable until they wear out, and then I'll replace them with winter tires on a square 225 setup. |
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1) I live at the end of nearly four miles of dirt/mud/slush/snow/ice out in the country, making RWD less practical for me. 2) An AWD vehicle is quite capable of pushing to the tire's limits. However, that was never my point. My point was to further enhance the performance of the vehicle I have, and summer tires will aid that cause. Higher performance tires increase braking potential, cornering potential, and acceleration potential (enlarging the traction circle), regardless of the particular drivetrain. I would have preferred that my vehicle came with summer tires, but it's much easier to change the tires than the drivetrain. Actually, I would have preferred my vehicle come with WINTER tires on the stocker 18" wheels, and I would get my own 18's or 19's in the size and configuration I want, shod with good performance tires. |
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12-12-2012, 09:44 AM | #38 | |
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2) And snow tires will enhance performance in the snow. If you are going to swap out tires anyways, just go with summer and winter instead of summer and all season. 3) I dont think you can buy a BMW with winter tires but you can buy one with summer tires. |
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12-12-2012, 10:22 AM | #39 |
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BMW has been making AWD cars since the 1980s. I think we're kind of past the "only RWD BMWs are real BMWs" thing. Especially since 99% of the people complaining bout AWD have never driven an F30 xDrive in the first place.
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1) We have a truck for when needed. 2) I already made that same point repeatedly. 3) Hence my use of the phrase "I would have preferred" rather than the phrase "I should have ordered". |
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Besides a big snow dump 4 years ago it seems like the weather patterns are changing and the weather is getting warmer and wetter here in Vancouver. We may have an occasional rare clear cold snap in the winter and then it warms up and rains for 2 weeks. We have a full set of winter tires for my wife's MDX that has not even been put on yet and it looks like there will be no need to put them on until at least January and even if we have put them on they are usually off for the season by the middle or end of February. Around here the noisy, sloppy, poor handling winter tires are usally a waste for our warm wet winters. Talking to the guys at my tire store last year they said that it as been so warm here in Vancouver over the past few years that it is killing their high profit winter tire business......... |
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Sorry it took me a while to respond. The tires are Pirelli cinturato p7s. 225, 18 inch, and I believe 45?
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What Pirellis came with your car?
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Even around here there's a good argument for getting summer biases all seasons like Conti DWSes or Bridgestone Potenza RE970s... The sacrifice in performance is not terribly noticeable unless you always drive your car at the limit of adhesion and it saves you from investing in winter tires that you might only use a few days per year. |
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