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      08-13-2017, 06:57 AM   #1
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Our best friends have moved to a new estate recently and have been having difficulties with one of the neighbours who has fallen out with most of the residents of the street.

She has been sending very explicitly threatening messages to my mates Mrs and has actively been encouraging her kids to scratch cars (the catalyst for the falling out), her husband has attacked one of the other neighbours for telling the kids off for throwing stones at their windows.

They're all a bit scared to really get too involved for fear of more vandalism etc

Thing is I did a bit of digging in fact after a very quick google it turns out she's an award winning and relatively well known author with a large online presence in terms of blogging, Facebook page, twitter, Amazon accounts etc etc and likes to present herself as a model professional, she even does book signings and so on.

My mate is quite keen to make life difficult for her but as anonymously as possible.

Any ideas how to spoil things for her as she literally is ruining their lives, she genuinely doesn't seem bothered one bit about police intervention which I'd have thought given her public profile she'd back off with the threat of it.
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Record some footage, put it up on you tube and link it to the person or sell it to a tabloid if their profile is high enough, to be fair for someone who makes their living in the Public domain, it sounds horrendous that they would risk it all with asbo behaviour
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      08-13-2017, 07:13 AM   #3
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Sounds like a police matter. Solve the problem properly.

Kangaroo courts, mob justice and tit for tat revenge just bing you down to her level and never end well.
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Sounds like a police matter. Solve the problem properly.

Kangaroo courts, mob justice and tit for tat revenge just bing you down to her level and never end well.
Well said and definitely the way to go.

Get some evidence and then go to the police. So many crimes end up with no further action due to no evidence.

Other witnesses or even better, visual or voice recordings is the way to go. This will eventually stop their actions.

Good luck.
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Sounds like a police matter. Solve the problem properly.

Kangaroo courts, mob justice and tit for tat revenge just bing you down to her level and never end well.
Exactly this, otherwise you're no better than them.
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      08-13-2017, 12:58 PM   #7
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Agree with doing it properly. If she is well known then what they are doing will soon be in the public domain.
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      08-13-2017, 03:23 PM   #8
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She seems the type of person that would enjoy Bullfighting
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Our best friends have moved to a new estate recently and have been having difficulties with one of the neighbours who has fallen out with most of the residents of the street.

She has been sending very explicitly threatening messages to my mates Mrs and has actively been encouraging her kids to scratch cars (the catalyst for the falling out), her husband has attacked one of the other neighbours for telling the kids off for throwing stones at their windows.

They're all a bit scared to really get too involved for fear of more vandalism etc

Thing is I did a bit of digging in fact after a very quick google it turns out she's an award winning and relatively well known author with a large online presence in terms of blogging, Facebook page, twitter, Amazon accounts etc etc and likes to present herself as a model professional, she even does book signings and so on.

My mate is quite keen to make life difficult for her but as anonymously as possible.

Any ideas how to spoil things for her as she literally is ruining their lives, she genuinely doesn't seem bothered one bit about police intervention which I'd have thought given her public profile she'd back off with the threat of it.
What your mate really needs is a psychopath to move in next to this woman and give her some of her own medicine.

Now who do we know that has been in and out a phychiatic hospital, that's recently been released and therefore still madder than a box of frogs.......???
I think Brigand's away on business though....
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Let the police handle it, especially if she is sending explicitly threatening text messages.
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      08-14-2017, 12:49 AM   #11
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Agree with the Police route. And if she has been sending threatening text's, use that as evidence and go to police stating they are fearful for their own well being.

Unfortunately any other route is most likely to end up with damage to each others property.
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Having had problem neighbours for most of 2016 (they moved out in October '16) and gone through the proper channels to resolve it, I would say that this is the right way to resolve it, however it could take a long time to prove it sufficiently for action by the police.

The number 1 thing to do is make sure your mate collects evidence and documents all of the antisocial behaviour in some sort of ASBO diary. Photos, recordings, videos will all help to back up the case and prove the campaign of behaviour by the neighbour.

Be prepared that when confronted, your mate's neighbour will likely counter claim that you are doing this-and-that (whether or not it has any truthful foundations) and the police will have to investigate these counter claims. As long as your friends are not doing anything to worsen the situation, these will be found to be untrue or unable to be substantiated fairly quickly

The police will then take the appropriate action for the complaint with regard given to the evidence collected by your friend and others (if others are making similar complaints - it would help to have a number of complaints from different neighbours if it is affecting the whole estate).

It's a long old slog sometimes but it is the correct way to go. I know it takes all your might sometimes not to deck the person(s) causing the hassle but if you really want to ruin their day, repeated visits from our friends at the thin blue line will about do it. More so if they have been silly enough to do anything that would get them a one-way ride in the back of a police car.
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Can't your mates deal with it in the Pistonheads manner?

Hammer frozen sausages into the lawn?
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Hammer frozen sausages into the lawn?
Ha ha I've already recommended that to him and I've bought him a pack of redbull to throw at them as well!
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I've recommended my cctv installer to them, they're going on holiday this weekend so will sort it when they get back, personally I'd have it done before I went away but they reckon they haven't got time and it's all settled down the last few days.
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If they've received explicitly threatening text messages, then that is already enough to make this a police matter.
Even if the police declined to take action (and they are very careful about this these days, because if they don't and the threats then come real, it's the police who get nailed for it), then there is certainly enough for a restraining order. If that gets breached, then it's contempt of court and prison time.
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Ha ha I've already recommended that to him and I've bought him a pack of redbull to throw at them as well!
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Save texts, send to police. That's against the law here and I'd be surprised if it's not there too nowadays.

Vigilantism probably isn't the best route to be honest. I agree with the others that suggest the same route with the local authorities. Tempting to do what you're suggesting OP, but it'd only put other neighbours under suspicion from this nutter unfairly y'know?
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Only issue I would have with police intervention is that the OP has already stated the person isn't bothered by police intervention and is actively encouraging her children to go out and vandalise others cars.

With the greatest of respect to the police- what will they actually do ?? They have enough on their plate and are "bound" by rules and regulations that even the most badic of scrutters will know how to use to their own ends.

In the mean time the situation for your friends will only get worse once reported. They don't seem like the kind of people who will be too bothered about who actually reported them and are more likely to lash out at everyone.

Sometines direct action is the answer.
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Only issue I would have with police intervention is that the OP has already stated the person isn't bothered by police intervention and is actively encouraging her children to go out and vandalise others cars.

With the greatest of respect to the police- what will they actually do ?? They have enough on their plate and are "bound" by rules and regulations that even the most badic of scrutters will know how to use to their own ends.

In the mean time the situation for your friends will only get worse once reported. They don't seem like the kind of people who will be too bothered about who actually reported them and are more likely to lash out at everyone.

Sometines direct action is the answer.
As I suggested in my post, if the police declined to take action, then the person can go to court and obtain an injunction - the threatening text would be enough to do so, especially if backed up with other evidence.

If the other party then break an injunction - or encourage others to do so - then it's Contempt of Court, which is highly likely to mean an immediate custodial sentence.
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